Madwife: Worlds Collide When a Midwife and EMT Lock Horns
Kalshassan
February 27, 2008
On Monday morning I crashed a woman into our Maternity Unit, she was contracting 1/1, felt the urge to push down, felt like she was going to move her bowels and told me she could feel “The baby moving downwards.”
In other words, aside from “crowning” (baby’s head peeking out and nipping in again) she was about as close to delivering as you can get without actually playing the “One patient in, two patients out” game.
She was charming and lovely, a few years younger than me, completely trusting and accepting of my help. She was also of an Indian family and I was worried that as a man I might not be allowed in the room, let alone to examine her and deliver her baby.
I needn’t have been concerned, when I told her I was “Going to have to have a look” she kicked off the duvet she was huddling under and with no embarrassment or reservations, let me get on with my job.
The journey in was a little intense, lights, sirens and speed along the City Bypass, her mother in law in the jump-seat next to me, I held her hand as she contracted, coached her breathing. On occasion she’d sit bolt upright and rest her head on my shoulder as her belly tightened and flexed under my hand. Every now and again I’d confirm there was no action downstairs and we’d carry on as before.
As I dropped her off with the midwife (who didn’t take a hand over), I said to her “Look, I’m back on shift in 24 hours, can I come and see you and find out how you got on?”
She smiled and agreed.
So today I went up to the Maternity unit and inquired after her.
The midwife glared at me.
“Are you family?” I looked down at my badged chest and Anglo Saxon/Orcadian/Astoundingly Caucasian hands, back at her. “No, I’m asking after my patient.” “Well, visiting hours aren’t until four, so you’ll have to be quick.”
She walked me down a corridor and stopped a dozen paces from the room.
“Stand here, she might be nursing.”
Because, you know, I’m a man, I couldn’t possibly see a woman breastfeeding her baby, especially not a woman whose genitals I had studied in depth just the day before.
She marched into the room and strode back out.
“She’s sleeping.”
That’s fair enough, I’m not enough of a dickhead to wake a woman who’s just had a baby.
“Ok, just let her know I came in and said hello?” “I’ll do that.” “Oh…Boy? Girl? Everyone healthy I assume?” “I can’t discuss that.” “Excuse me?” “Patient confidentiality, I can’t tell you.”
I was too dumbfounded to respond, so walked out of the department.
It’s an unfortunate attitude to come across, especially since I’ve had such great experiences in the past training and learning with the staff of the department, but once again we’re viewed as “the taxi drivers”.
I suppose it must grate a little that we lowly emergency staff are trained and qualified to deliver babies, while midwives study for three years. I’m no midwife, I don’t have their skills, or experience and wouldn’t pretend to do so.
But I do a damn sight more than driving the taxi.
Saying that, the next time I hand a patient over to the unit, I’ll just tell them “I can’t show you my patient report form, I’m afraid, it’s confidential.”
Do you have any interesting childbirth experiences to share? Share your experiences with under members in the related discussion thread.

theala
about 1 year ago
410 comments
Sorry to hear you had such a horrific experience with that midwife. She was, in my view, unprofessional. She used HIPPA as an excuse to treat a colleague disrespectfully. Nurses follow up on patients transferred to other unts and hospitals all the time.
When I first started as an ER nurse, we had similar conflicts between the nurses and the paramedics. Each thought the other was incompetent. One paramedic tried to refuse giving me report on a patient he brought in because I was an LPN, not an RN. One of the docs overheard, and told the medic, "She's a nurse, dammit, give her report on your patient!" The medic never tried that again.
One of the medics was my roommate (another was a local cop). We talked a lot about the differences in perspective between EMTs/paramedics and ER nurses. I decided to take an EMT course to get a better idea of what they did. When the medics found out, it made a great difference and helped me become a bridge between the nurses and the medics.
As an ER nurse I do get frustrated when a medic does a lackluster job. One brought me a kid with a head injury and never took vital signs or immobilized the spine. Mom didn't speak English, and it wasn't until Dad got there that I found out a 400 lb piece of furniture had fallen on the kid's head. Luckily, his C-spine was OK, and there was no internal bleeding or skull fractures--just a very nasty laceration that a plastic surgeon had to repair.
But that's the EXCEPTION, not the rule. Most medics I know are great professionals who do a job I would not want to. You go into people's nasty, dirty houses full of vermin to pick up patients. You see the initial bloody mess on the highway after a fatal crash. You deal with the fear and panic of families. You have to make split second decisions with only the radio for backup on matters of life and death.
RESPECT ALL EMTS AND PARAMEDICS!!!
Account Removed
about 1 year ago
Ok, well I'm going to put in my two cents here. HIPAA.........yepper, her attitude was certainly less than stellar, but since you had reported off and were essentially no longer involved in her care, the midwife was complying with HIPAA. Sad, but true.
Every single EMT I have ever had the pleasure to work with I have respected a great deal. Working mostly trauma OR most of my former nursing career, I've come into contact with a whole bunch, across the country. I want you all, on my side.
crzegrl
over 2 years ago
22 comments
AAHHHHH! I know it doesn't matter now, but I am so sorry! I love my medics. Oh wait! I am one too! Okay, enough with the exclamation points. As a collective whole, we need to get over this. We see good and we see bad professionals on all ends of the spectrum. I completely agree that it takes all of us for continuity of care. When I get to a scene, I want that medic right next to me because even though I got there from the air instead of the ground, that medic, 9 times out of 10 has more ground experience than I do.
Kalshassan----keep doing what you are doing!
charlita
over 2 years ago
2978 comments
I enjoyed reading this.
surf_family
over 2 years ago
2 comments
Unreal! Such negativity from a midwife. EMT's are greatly underappreciated.
andrea22
over 2 years ago
4 comments
I understand where you are coming from...I have been an EMT for 12 years and am now an RN. Nurses and doctors have such a lowly view of EMS personal it is sad. Afterall, we all are aiming at the same goals...the best possible outcome for our patients.
I turn alot of heads with EMS crews where I work, because I work side by side with them and do not treat them like they are just the taxi. I also show a genuine understanding to their practices and protocols. Every healthcare setting is different and we as healthcare providers need to respect each other and the jobs performed by others in different fields. I know many doctors, nurses, midwives, ect...that I would let take care of me in a controlled setting, but very few that I would let touch me in an emergency.
Keep doing your job, and know that since you were that thoughtful and concerned to go back and check on this lady and her newborn you have the compassion and dedication that makes an extraordinary practitioner...that is what healthcare should be about.
slevy62
over 2 years ago
16 comments
Today every body is so caught up in creditenals, degrees and titles that the though TEAM MEMBER what ever your job is dosen't seem to matter...I respect every person who works in health care...The janitor, the hosekeeper, the dietary aid, the cna,the nurse, the midwife, the emt,s the Dr,s and the gardner....All these people in some way contribute to a good out come for the patient...
NevadaRN
over 2 years ago
118 comments
Great description - really captivating read.