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Why the Health-Care Bill Is Unacceptable in Any Form
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Source: Jewish World Review
August 24, 2009
... Advocates of liberty have been winning the current battle over health-care. The administration is making concessions, Blue Dogs are trying to mollify us, and some congressmen are so terrified that they can only be found on milk cartons this August. It is time to press our advantage, keep up the pressure, and make it clear to our congressmen that we don't want a modified or watered down version of this health-care bill. We want no version of this health-care bill and no new health-care bureaucracy.
tibs
2 months ago
4 comments
So what do we do with the 46 million Americans uninsured? They end up in our ER's after an acute exacerbation because they had no health insurance to see someone when the symptoms began. Now their in the ER, the cost are greater for treatment that could have been prevented, and it's free care. This scenario is a major factor in the rising heath care costs. I do beleive people that smoke, and other contributing detrimantal lifestyle habits should pay more for insurance that someone who follows healthy habits. But I do believe access to medical care should be a right of all Americans. We may have excellent medical facilities and doctors in this country, but the overall health of Americans compared to other countries, and the infant mortality rate should be enough to tell us something needs to be done. We spend more per capita in healthcare than any other country, and our disease rates are much higher.
Tim0126
2 months ago
6 comments
I agree, Vixen007. As to whether or not the quality of care will suffer is yet to be seen.
VIXEN007
2 months ago
38 comments
I'm thinking Obama is going to flood the US with foreign trained physicians and nurses. Those docs will work for $50,000/year. Our own graduates will not be able to compete and be forced into something else...It will happen, the writing is on the wall!
VIXEN007
2 months ago
38 comments
I agree with you. If reform or tweaking of the system is necessary, and maybe it is. It should be done by nurses and physicians and some administrators that are both clinician and bean-counter. In my opinion, we could insure everyone that wants coverage if we stopped paying for illegals to use the ERs for primary care. They should be triaged and unless their condition is life-thereatening, they should be sent away. Try getting hurt in Mexico, you better have a credit card before the doc even attempts to sew you up with a rusty needle.
America has the best system in the world. That is why everyone wants to come here. We cannot afford to let Obama ruin healthcare. He should focus on the two front war, the economy, tax reform and stay the heck out of healthcare. We all know what happens when lawyers get involved in healthcare!
Tim0126
2 months ago
6 comments
My experience working in a form of socialized medicine has taught me that it is not the answer. I worked for the US Army, as a nurse, managing an internal medicine clinic. We had a limited number of doctors due to budgetary restrictions, and access to care was always an issue. I fielded the calls and the complaints from the patients trying to get in to be seen. If the could get an appointment we provided excellent care, but it was very difficult for patients to get in. In this country we already have a shortage of doctors, and the shortage will grow in a socialized system. You will have more patients than the doctors can handle, and that will lead to rationing by necessity. It doesn't have to be written anywhere in the Bill. It's common sense that if you add 40 million patients to a system that is already short on providers, you will have increased wait times to see a doctor, and will have limitations on what you can have done. Obama has touted the VA system. Some already have commented on the VA system, which is another good example of an over burden system. As a military retire, authorized to use the system, I choose not to for just this reason. This is not a system I want to see forced on the american public.
korba
2 months ago
56 comments
Sorry pgokey, my basis for opposition goes the the heart of the matter; the ethics of stealing from some to benefit others.
The idea that the government should take money from those who live healthy lives of moderation: good diet, exercise, avoiding drugs and alcohol, avoiding risky behaviours, particularly high risk sexual behaviour, and then take that money to pay for the health care of those whose lives have been destroyed by dissolute, undisciplined behaviours such as drug and alcohol abuse, high risk sex, mountains of fast food, tobacco use, etc etc ad infinitum, IS MORALLY WRONG, ETHICALLY UNPRINCIPLED, AND REPUGNANT TO MANY PEOPLE. That the ANA support this wrong-headed approach, and worse, that many nurses do as well, chills me to the core of my spirit..... Where is the accountability for living one's life in an unexamined, ill disciplined, irresponsible manner? Why make the best of us pay for the worst? SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!
kalamazoo
2 months ago
4 comments
go to realclearpolitics.com and listen to the audio of President Obama speaking with a caller about his healthcare bill. The caller specifically asked about sec 102 that would prohibit people with private insurance to keep that insurance and he said "I'm not familiar with that section of the bill". What kind of man would present this healthcare bill so wholeheartedly and not be familiar with the contents of the bill? This pretty much did it for me. I definately think the bill needs more work and should not be pushed through Congress until every detail is looked at.
pgokey
2 months ago
2 comments
Based on the comments, I am not sure that being nurse means one is going to have a particular view on this issue. "I should know, I am a nurse!" is being said by people who favor and oppose reform. It does seem that those opposed on here are just as guilty, too, as those outside of the industry of buying into myths (such as the plan calls who whole socialization of the industry). So being a nurse does not make one any better at listening to what's being said, or more able to myth bust. Nurses are people who bring their own ideologies in to play, just like everyone else. It's too bad - I would hope that being nurse would mean one would understand that having uninsured patients is bad and needs to be fixed. Disheartening, really.
flynn126
2 months ago
18 comments
I want to take health care away from the insurance companies bottom line!
tracivrn
2 months ago
10 comments
I totally agree with you. I am a nurse, and contrary to what is being said by our president and the media, all nurses and doctors do not agree with B.O. that we need socialized health care. There is other things that can be done to reform our health care. Not all of us want healthcare in the hands of the government. I hear doctors and nurses talk about it all of the time in the hospital. If you want to wait for even a year or more for a much needed operation-yes you could die while waiting for it, and also be in pain and suffer in the meantime, and if its ok with you to not have a choice on what medication you will get for high blood pressure, for example, because the government will decide which medication you get, and if it doesn't bother you that the quality of the healthcare you will receive will severely decrease, and you won't get the latest and greatest treatments, then keep pushing for it. I could go on and on.
jamieschultz
2 months ago
4 comments
I'm with Perry. Look at the VA backlog!! The government cant handle this. Healthcare insurance is an insurance, not a right. Everyone does have the equal opportunity for healthcare. Why not repair VA, Medicaid, and Meicare, pass some tort reform, and motivate people to take care of themselves? And Bill, Rush, and Fox dont bow to the almighty king and promote his forced healthcare plan because they believe in the American way. I have been in the field 20 years, and this reform isnt what we need. Eliminate socialism,
mrbrownrn49
3 months ago
68 comments
And those who aren't yet nurses. After you spend 30 years taking care of the tragic let's see if you still feel that way. Health Care Reform Now! Nurses Union Now!
mrbrownrn49
3 months ago
68 comments
Easy - Rush and Bill O'Reilly instigate them. Besides it's easier than thinking for yourself to have pinheads egg you on. Fox News should be compared only to the National Enquirer, just like the rag Murdoch owns in New York (New York Post).
1caring
3 months ago
2 comments
I disagree wholeheartedly. How can you call yourself an "advocate of liberty" without giving everyone an equal opportunity to get healthcare? You may have won this battle, but you will lose the war. By the way, don't you realize you are paying for uninsured people already with higher healthcare insurance costs?
Perry_Mecium
3 months ago
26 comments
This post is a relief. I'm a second-career nurising student. I was begining to feel like I was the only nurse in the business who believes that this push for a government managed health care system is bad for us common people. Whatever happened to critical thinking? Please re-read the story of Mary Breckinridge and the Frontier Nursing Service for an example of how private initiatives and free markets can solve health care problems.