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Austin ER's Got 2,678 Visits From 9 people Over 6 Years
Mary Ann Roser / American-Stateman
April 01, 2009
Kitchen estimated that each ER visit averaged about $1,000. The cost represents a national average for all ER patients, said Anjum Khurshid, the ICC’s director of clinical research and evaluation and co-author of the report.
The ICC, whose mission is to work with safety-net providers to improve access to and quality of care, has a database of 750,000 uninsured and underinsured Central Texas patients collected from its members. That database is confidential because of patient privacy laws. It found that 900 frequent users — people who visited an ER six or more times in three months — had 2,123 preventable visits in 2007, or 18 percent of 11,600 total visits to Central Texas ERs, which cost more than $2 million. Among those picking up the bill were hospitals and taxpayers, including government programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, Kitchen said.
She defined a preventable visit as one in which the patient could have been treated earlier in a different setting, such as a clinic, avoiding the trip to the ER.
“It’s a pretty significant issue,” said Dr. Christopher Ziebell, chief of the emergency department at University Medical Center at Brackenridge, which has the area’s busiest ER.
Ziebell is a member of a task force that includes representatives of the health district, hospitals and other medical providers studying ways to reduce inappropriate ER use. Solutions might include referring some frequent users to mental health programs or primary care doctors so they would go there first in the future, Ziebell said.
When frequent users come to the ER now, Ziebell said, his first obligation is to stabilize them if they are having a medical problem. If not, he tries to assess their problem and determine where they should go for care, such as a community clinic, the local mental health center or a doctor who might be treating their asthma, for example.
“They have a variety of complaints,” Ziebell said. With mental illness, “a lot of anxiety manifests as chest pain,” he said.
In a report last year, Austin-Travis County Emergency Medical Services said that 10 patients made up more than 1 percent of the system’s 130,000 contacts with patients in two years. The patients’ most common ailments were stomach or chest pains, injuries or respiratory problems.
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PhD_nurse
over 1 year ago
2 comments
I know a lot of other places that $3 million can go... Maybe we wouldn't of had to fire 800 teachers and close schools is Central Texas... Please continue to work and find a solution... Thank you
POC
about 4 years ago
46 comments
I don't think 'they" deserve "three hots and cot" on MY dollar for a made up, or exagerated medical condition.
No, I don't have an answer to the problem. But as an ER nurse, I KNOW the way things currently work is NOT working.
EMTALA says that we have to "screen" everyone and they get "stabilizing treatment". This doesn't mean they have to get everything under the sun. If more docs would look at these patients with "nothing" problems and send them home, with nothing, things would get better.
Maslow was an idiot.
emtpixie
about 4 years ago
328 comments
Frequent fliers are a problem all over the country. We have one who calls ALL the time, anywhere from 3 to 20x per day. We do get very irritated about it, especially since this person has physically assaulted most of us. Generally the pt. didn't get their way about something in their life and decides to have a myriad of fake symptoms so we will come and pay attention to them and hopefully take them to one of the ER's where the pt. can get more attn. This person has had psych. evals. and was dx with anxiety. So now the pt. refuses their meds. in order to have another reason to call us. Go figure.
samantha117
about 4 years ago
8 comments
I work in an urban ER setting, and this happens all the time. We have people that come a minimum of 3x a week. I definately think it's a WASTE of time and money. The "3 hots and a cot" can come from another resource besides overburdened ERs. Think about it.....people sometimes wait HOURS in a waiting room in pain to get medical attention, meanwhile the frequent fliers are taking up beds. It's ridiculous. We can have a social worker talk 'til they are blue in the face and find a wealth of resources for them, but they won't listen. They won't seek help. Too bad EMTALA states that we cannot refuse them, just in case they do actually have an issue that does need to be treated.
Barbmom
about 4 years ago
6 comments
I do not think 3 hots and a cot is a waste. Especially today when resources are hard to find and mental health issues burden the homeless. Nutrition and sleep are part of Maslow and clients who are not able or can not provide these things for themselves deserve as much help as the typical med surge patient.
Minx
about 4 years ago
12 comments
The ER I worked in..we had a few frequent flyers that would call 911 daily..it got to the point that EMS 911(vollie) would go 3 or 4th due for the one lady...she finally got fined by 911 for making over 600 calls in a year for the ambo....this went on for years too...
U2859
about 4 years ago
12 comments
In the mental health field , we call this the revolving door policy - sometimes we just see people for three hots anda cot also - it's a waste oftaxpayers money