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I'm sick of working in a female field.

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Posted about 3 years ago

 

-----I wrote this after a long hard pyrich victory.


 

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Wow...I am sorry you feel this way. I do not know the particulars about your situations but I know that I have never had this problem. I do my job and never make any comments that can be mistaken for some sort of sexual harrassment. I think that it you treat women with respect all the time then you do not have to worry about them taking something you say the wrong way.


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wow, if your this unhaqppy, maybe law isn't for you... There is law, but no justice... Any way best of luck to you..

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I agree with John.  I'm wondering what responsibility you have had in some of these issues.  It seems a little strange that you have had this problem so many times but yet insist that it has been by no fault of your own.   None the less, perhaps nursing wasn't the correct field for you if you feel dominated by women.  I know plenty of men in this profession who have had no problems whatsoever.  I have always said that sexual harrassment is subjective.  By that I mean that if a women is attracted to a man she may welcome his advances but the minute things go sour she's screaming harrassment.  Either way, in the work place one must be sure to maintain a professional atmosphere so there will be no room for misinterpretation.  I certainly hope that you have relaesed your resentment before becoming a lawyer.  I shudder to think of the implications involved when one is still bitter and has even the slightest bit of what they perceive to be as power.


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Most respectfully, Agree

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Good luck! I'm a lawyer and a licensed RN, and have  never had any problems in either field, nor have I had to appear before any Board except to represent a client. Never suffered any "sexual" discrimination, assuming you mean "gender based" discrimination. Wow! Was I ever lucky for the past 20 years!


Best of luck in law school. By the way in law you leave your feelings outside the courtroom - going into a hearing or trial with the attitude of getting "payback" or relishing filing the suit, your opponents will eat you alive, since they will be operating with objectivity.

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Sorry I'm just frustrated. I've lost so much because of false allegations and comments taken completely out of context.  I've worked besides many good female nurses that I admire and respect. I just think the law is so broad that I want to see these stupid laws removed from the books forever.

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Just curious, but what laws do you find to be too broad that need to be changed?


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goof question

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I do not know if the laws against sexual harrassment are too broad or not, but in my experience if a person does not do anything or say anything sexual or otherwise inappropriate in the work place they will not have this problem.


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agreed, maybe he should go into the correctional department

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or take a seminar on what constitutes sexual harrassement in the work place


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that might work, but I think it's deeper than that..

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You are probably right, he said it has happend many times. Hard to believe it was a mistake many times


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no kidding

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I also noticed that he deleted his original post. Whats up with that?


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John, I see that..


Gitano great words

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Agreed, GITANO, very well spoken. 


Yeah, noticed the original post is now missing...hmmmm....suspect....


I think the bottom line really is accountability for one's actions or lack thereof.


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Hey Romano, if you erase the original post then you changed the content of the whole thread. People who come on that did not see the original will not understand what everyone is posting about.


You might as well have closed it all together.


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That's a shame....we may never know what laws he was referring to now!!


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The responses are interesting, but where is the original posting eliciting the responses?

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The original post did not specify any laws. He just complained that he was accusing him of sexual harrassment many times and he was tired of working with women because of that. He gave no details of what he did or was accused of, just that he was tired of working with women.


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Nah, I wasn't the Moderator who deleted the post either - I have a feeling he may have taken it off himself. It sounded like one of those letters or emails you might write when upset, then later you're sorry you sent it!  That happens to all of us.

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LOL @ Teresah  


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The mystery goes on

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I am sure he wishes he never started this....I do notice, he never posts any more. Oh well.


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You think I'm the only male this has happened to? I'm not. Not just in the nursing field but in other professions such as teachings I've seen and heard the same thing. I remember a buddy of mine had a kid pull his shirt and he turned around to pull him off and ripped the kids shirt. He got dismissed because of the incident. Want to know what his teacher's union lawyer said? "If you were a woman we wouldn't be here." Female privlege exists and this is but one manifestation of many. I remember I got spoken to my boss once about "presenation" from a complaint a CNA had but there weren't any exact words or behaviors she could explain to me. I told her if I wasn't a man we wouldn't be having this conversation, and she said,"yes you're right." When my lawyer looked at the accusations against me he laughed and said,"are you serious? This is complete bullshit." Let me make one thing abudantly clear, perception does not constitute reality. As nurses we have all been taught to never assume and to assess based on only clear factual details. As employees at will, employers have every incentive to fire a person if accused of misconduct, even if the accusations are baseless. Having someone complain of "Feeling uncomfortable or intimidated" is a subjective feeling and yet our misandric legal system discourages employers from completely investigating the validity of any complaint. It's less risky for them to fire an accused person and claim misconduct (so as not to have to pay unemployment benefits) than it is to risk being sued for not taking action to halt alleged "sexual harassment".  This is social control in action, where subjective feelings are ridiculously considered evidence, and where one is guilty until they prove themselves innocent. Where is the justice in that? I deleted my post because I saw the responses and realized that just to be accused was to labeled and assumed a deviant, even if proven false. I really wasn't interested in being judged by people, who don't seem to believe male gender discrimination exists, since they've never seen it (or never recognized it) and assumes that I'm guilty based on unfounded allegations. I'm aware that repetitive accusations are suspicious, but I know sexual harassment laws all too well.

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Nurse_John says ...



Wow...I am sorry you feel this way. I do not know the particulars about your situations but I know that I have never had this problem. I do my job and never make any comments that can be mistaken for some sort of sexual harrassment. I think that it you treat women with respect all the time then you do not have to worry about them taking something you say the wrong way.



This was my original post and I stand by it. I work with women and we joke around together but I know where to draw the line. I think it is a matter of respect towards women.


Also your last line about repetitive accusations being suspicious makes a lot of people a little suspecious of your behavior. It is hard to believe that different people would make the same accusations over and over again.


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A career change  is in need

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