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Good kids gone bad!!!
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Posted over 5 years ago I need to vent a little. I just received a phone call from my son's 10th grade Honors English teacher to tell me that my son has copied his Engligh paper from the Internet! My son is a straight "A" student, in Beta Club and a all around good kid. What the hell happened? Our computer is in a central location in the house, and he does not know the pass word to get online. I never saw him copying anything! My husband is leaving for Iraq in about 1 month and I believe that if this keeps up he will come back with one less kid! Luckily his teacher loves him and she is giving him a 2nd chance and is not going to report him. I almost feel like she needs to report him so he can be held responsible. On the other hand I don't want this to follow him forever, either. Any suggestions? |
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| Posted over 5 years ago It's hard being a teenager these days. Maybe because he is a straight A student, he feels pressured to maintain this level at all times and felt he needed alittle help on this one.(I'm not making excuses for him, just trying to understand where he might be coming from) Also, I'm sure he has access to computers at school , the library or a friend's house. Whatever the reason, he does need to be held accountable for his mistakes or he will continue to believe he can get away with anything. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago My husband and I have always told our children that as long as they did their best. Charlie has always been one of those kids that I hated in school. He NEVER studies and can ace a test. He is really smart. I did leave out part of the problem. He has a girlfriend that he spends way too much time with. I really fel like he thought that his time with her was more important and did not leave enough time for his school work. Well guess what. He is going to be real time of seeing my face because he will be at home with nothing but oxygen, bread, and water for the next.....Well forseeable future!!!!!!! Unfortunately for him I am a tough mom and I don't back down from punishment. So, no amount of sweet talk will matter! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Good for you! If I could go back and do one thing differently-it would be to be stricter on my kids. I tried to see things from their point of view and give them the benefit of the doubt.They took advantage of me, especially the oldest. Stick to your guns, especially with your husband away-it's like being a single parent. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago PS - if his name is Charlie, he's got to be a good kid! My Dad"s name was Charlie and my son is Charley-both winners! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Maybe he acted out because his father is going to be deployed to Iraq soon and he is having a hard time dealing with that. The media portrays some of the most horrible things going on over there..including the death tolls. I would think that would be hard for a child to cope with (you too). I would like to thank your husband for fighting for our country! I do think there should be a strong punishment for him at home but not in the school just because something like this would be on his school record and follow him to college. I know he should be accountable for his actions but in a way that will teach him to do the right thing and give him a second chance in school and life. I am a strict parent when it comes to my son. I try to make him accountable in a the good and bad that he does. I might suggest making him write the paper for his teacher and writting one on why plagarism is wrong or something along that line. You could also have him show you the site where he downloaded the paper and block it from your computer. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Thanks guys for all of the suport!! I am happy to report that Charlie survived this past weekend without talking to his girlfriend, playing X-Box, listening to his mp3, or watching TV! ctrum6414: I asked Charlie if he had any cocnerns or worries. He says he doesn't. He so far has always talked to me about personal stuff and I believe him when he says he's o-kay with his dad leaving. I did find out that 2 of his best friends have plagarize and did not get caught....I now know where he got this idea. Charlie did have to re-write the paper and His dad and I made him write and apology letter to his teacher. He is grounded from everything until we get his report card which is 1/30. He has already started begging for a reprive, but too bad the Warden hath spoken! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I'm glad Charlie has survived! My one concern here is many times, even though someone says they're fine with something and they think they're fine, to often denial is in effect. I know there are lots of counseling and support options available through the military. Another thing is he's a teenager. This isn't to excuse him, but a reason for weird behaviors manifesting themselves when they never have before. Sometimes I think it's a right of passage to become "stupid" at a certain age. My 11 year old grandson has suddenly begun to leave his memory, common sense, communication abilities in bed while he goes about daily living. "I Forgot" has become a recurring phrase ad nauseum in our home.
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| Posted over 5 years ago Give the kid a break. Is this the worst he has done? Does he feel guilty about it? The last is an important question. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Yes- This is probably the worst he has done, but if I let him get away with the small stuff...he will think he can get away with the big stuff! Plagarizing can keep him out of college and get him kicked out of college. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago true, but it's real easy to do these days, there is a whole lot of stuff on the internet. Many kids at my school get stuff off the internet, change the wording a bit, and genuinely think by changing it a bit, it's their own work.
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| Posted over 5 years ago Unfortunately, Charlie did not change or did not change enough for it not to be recognized by a program his English teacher has. He seem remorseful, but the only thing he seems to also be upset about is that he can't talik to his girlfriend. I guess only time will tell if he has decided to make better decisions. I guess what upset me the most is that he doesn't even act like the same child he was 5 years ago. I know that he is growing up. I don't mean that part. I have made an effort to have my children aware of me and my husband's Christian beliefs. Charlie just seems so far from us now that I think he has decided not to stay in the same Christian footsteps that we have made for him. (We have had a couple of other problem of late not including this one. This one was the final straw kind of thing) I understand that his beliefs are his decisions to make. It is just hard starting to see your child become something other than the vision you had for him. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Shan4691...I think you took all the right actions with dealing with this particular problem. And I do agree that if he were to get away with the small stuff then bigger is yet to follow. It is hard to see your child move from your vision of expectations but sometimes that is what is needed for them to grow as a person. My mother always tried to have me believe in everything she did also. I grew apart from that when I was about 15 or so. But now as an adult, I have come back to the place I should have been, but it was because I wanted to and the time was right....for me. Sometimes kids just need space and time to figure out what they need and want in life and faith. Good luck to ya. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago You're right! You are absolutely right! I was the same way when I was a teen. I now understand how hard it was for my parents. Funny how things come full circle! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago One thing I learned as a mother, and it was a hard lesson to learn, was : my dreams were not always my children's dreams. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I HAD TO REPLY TO THIS... I HAVE FOLLOWED YOUR CONVERSATION... FROM WHAT I CAN TELL YOU ARE A PRETTY GOOD MOTHER ..... AND YOUR SON A GOOD KID... PLAGARISM IS BAD BUT AT LEAST HE WANTS TO DO HIS HOMEWORK AND HES NOT INVOLVED ANYTHING WORSE THAN TRYING TO GET A PASSING GRADE... HIS PUNISHMENT WAS FULLFILLING BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY AS LONG AS HE KNOWS WHAT HE DID WAS WRONG .... AS FAR AS HIS GIRLFRIEND... THATS THAT AGE.. THE MORE YOU TRY TO PUNISH HIM WITH KEEPING HIM AWAY FROM HER THE MORE HE IS GOING TO WANT TO BE AROUND HER.....WELL GOOD LUCK.... |
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| Posted over 5 years ago AS FAR AS HIS GIRLFRIEND… THATS THAT AGE.. THE MORE YOU TRY TO PUNISH HIM WITH KEEPING HIM AWAY FROM HER THE MORE HE IS GOING TO WANT TO BE AROUND HER…..WELL GOOD LUCK In some respects this is true, however this is part of his "grounding experience" rather than a single event. keep up the good work shan, things will get better when he's out of college and on his own........ROFL |
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| Posted over 5 years ago FYI : an article in my local newspaper today stated "deployments sometimes take toll on kids in weird ways" tho she was speaking of younger kids in general she had good information and she provided a # 1-800-342-9647/ Military OneSource - a program provided by the Dept. of Defense that hooks up military families with counselors by phone 24/7 It's always good to know you can get in touch with someone of you need to. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Thank you I will keep that number. I think my husband is going to try and spend a little extra time with charlie over the next few weeks before he leave. You know "man of the house" stuff. Maybe that will help if he is having any issues with his dad leaving. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Being a child and then becoming the parent of one is def. a full circle event. We make mistakes and so do they. The only way to deal with that is to learn from them and move on. There is no use in crying over spilled milk..ya know. I have learned so much from my son it is really funny sometimes. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago How right you are! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Shan...You have let him know that you are on to him, he knows that you'll be watching, AND more importantly you have shown him that there are consequences for his bad decisions. If you have other children, you have set a great example of what you expect and do not expect. (I was an oldest child...that part sucks.) Maybe this was a blessing in disguise; you have set an example of how strong you are and that will be important in the next couple of months as you do a lot of the parenting virtually alone. God be with you and your family as you transition into this phase with your family. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Thank you so much you guys!! I am happy to report that my darling angel is released from prison and is currently serving parole. His English teacher dropped the plagiarized paper grade and he made all "A"s on his report card. I still have mixed feelings about the no consequences at school, but I guess as long as he knows we won't tolerate cheating I can live with it! Luckily, my husband will be able to e-mail daily and we will still be parenting together, even though we will be thousands of miles apart. As for the alone part, I have you guys to give me great ideas and advice, or just an ear if I need to vent! |
