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Hi Nursing Link Members,
I need some help with trying to understand why people are the way they are. I am currently enrolled in an LPN program at Stautzenberger College. I have a 4.0 GPA, which apparently does not set too well with some of the student(s) in my class. Especially with one girl; who has already been written-up for bullying; a problem that I has been going on since the being of the 1st quarter, (now starting the 4th). One of our instructors had witnessed her rude behavior towards me-for sometime and decided it was time to do something about it. But now-on the last day of class she accused me of cheating and turned me in. I have no reason to cheat and my instructors should know better.
Our assignment or project was to do research on a patient who had abdominal surgery and we had to write 4 NDX’s or problem statements r/t to actual or potential complications after surgery AEB. Once the NDX's were chosen, we had to take one and form 3 outcomes. Also, we had to write 10 interventions as to how we would help the patient meet these outcomes. I had no problems, what-so-ever, with forming the NDX's, outcomes, interventions, and goals met.
On our last day we had to come into class; memorize by heart and rewrite everything (in reality I doubt very much you would be writing NDX's this way). I guess the mistake I made was when it was my turn to come in and sit down to begin, I had my folder open to look at it one last time, shut the fold, but did not think to remove it from the table, So, Yes, I am guilty of that. I can't even remember how many times I had rewritten things and/or restarted over (maybe a bit of anal retentiveness or OCD). So yes I guess if you were walking in the room and seeing me rewriting, I suppose it would look like cheating. 
I went to the office after class; seems like things are ok. But I am very hurt, and saddened for what has happened. The instructor walked passed me and looked at the table and told me to put the fold on the floor and looked at the papers on the table; if she had some doubt; as I told her in the office, she should have picked of the papers and looked through them. I am also worried that my grade in class will be suffer and I won't get my A that I worked real hard to get.
Please, any suggestions on to understanding why some people are like this and how I should handle it. I would be so ever grateful. Thank You. Lori.
 

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Sounds like she caught you at an unfavorable moment and was sure to report what she saw. Although it was an honest mistake now you must be accountalbe for what happened, and as far as bullying goes I don't think we will ever understand why some feel compelled to hurt others. For some reason they feed off the distress of others, and perhaps this is all they know in life, and the only way they can get ahead of the game. That is how I perceive "bullies" but I didn't do so well in Psych (received a C) so don't take this directly to heart, please.



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Thank you for replying Angela.  I checked my grade and ended-up with an A. So, apparently it did not hurt my grade. "Thank God". The paper wasn't even counted in our overall grade; go figure. What I can not figure out, is how this girl thinks she's going to become a good nurse. She's rude to everyone; just certain one's a little more. My greatest concern; if she's rude to her peers-what about the residents/patients? If things don't go her way-is she going to lash out at the residents/patients? I hope not for her sake! Lori.

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People who bully do so because they have a very low self esteem for themselves.. They think when they bully people look up to them... Rather it shows what aq small individual they are.

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Hey Loriusa you don't have to worry because guess what it happened to me in nursing school and guess what  that same person in clinicals made a real boo boo so you don't l have to do nothing to them they will do it to themselves. In other words what goes around comes round.  So just  always remember that.  Keep your head up and keep your eye on the prize.

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Yes, people usually put other down, because even if they don't realize it, it makes them feel better about themselves.


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" It has been traced all the way back to childhood.Yes,education and discipline begins in the home,however, children are


  very impressionable,emulating and repeating actions Mom/Dad have shown them in the home.If not corrected,to refrain from


  such mannerisms,"History will repeat itself".There lies the inner child in all of us;the only problem is that the limited few,


  "thrive upon the extremes",admonishing others percieved weaker to them",thus,"striving,desperately, to impress others."


  The best thing to do,although it is not easy,is to turn a blind eye,"to their pompous attitude.


   **The more they are tuned-out,the sooner they will turn-off !"

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I have now recovered from being bullied from my younger years. It has taken a long time, but bullying is just so wrong on so many levels.


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I think people bully because their either jealous or insecure -- something about you causes a threat to that individual. Maybe it's your good grades and that bothers them because they aren't a high performing student. I think it would be silly for your teacher to hold that "cheating" incident against you. Also, why would she believe what someone is telling her when your instructor wrote up the bully herself?


This just sounds like a big mess. I would politely confront your bully and ask her what her deal is. Sometimes it's good to hash things out.

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Don't grace this person's behavior with one more minute of concern on your part.  You have much better things to do with your attention and your time.  And congrats on getting the A grade that you deserved.

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Yes, I agree that bullying is on some level insecurity on the part of the bullier.


Joyce Harrell, RN, OCN
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 You know, it's strange...when I was in nursing school, there was a whole clique of people (oddly enough, it was the class president's clique) who all sat next to each other and mocked, snickered, rolled their eyes, etc. at other students who asked questions, spoke or tried to participate in class.  It turned out that I dropped a class and returned the following year to retake that class and was now a member of the next year's graduating class and sure enough!!!, the following year's class president had his own clique who DID THE EXACT SAME THING!!!!!!!  As an older student (2nd profession), I never said anything although I knew exactly what they were doing...until the day of graduation rehearsal.  As the alphabet would have it, the class president was sitting almost directly behind me and I listened as he and one of his clique continued to mock the other students as they walked across the rehearsal stage.  I finally spoke up with a not so subtle dagger of my own directed at the president.  after rehearsal, he called my aside with some kind of weird confusion and asked me "what's going on?"  i told him i had listened to him making fun of the rest of the class for 2 semesters and that i was insulted, offended, sick of it and that i thought he was a poor representation of a class president.  he acted surprised and innocent and i walked away.  a few days later, after graduation, i got an email from him with a sort of sideways apology, he did say that he had learned something and would be more careful in the way he was interpretted in the future.  i respect him for that.  anyway, im here to tell you that THAT experience was only a preview to the way nurses treat each other!!!!  be prepared!  the wounds are still fresh but i was lucky enough to get a job shortly after getting my license and my preceptors were experts and subtly and covertly whittling away my confidence.  the strange thing is, in my private life, i am a confident person who went into the job with every intention a learning as much as i could and letting my preceptor know how much i appreciated her experience and support.  it didnt matter.  nothing worked.  my gratitude, my thirst for knowledge, none of it mattered.  they made me feel like i couldnt do anything right and their skills in provoking paralyzing anxiety were unsurpassed.  it was a gradual, methodical slaughter; nothing like the supportive, nurturing environment i had anticipated and looked forward to.  it was a disgrace to the profession, IMO.  I know that this is not everyone's experience but apparently, this bullying attitude and approach is an epidemic and i learned what was happening to me too late.  i couldnt understand what was wrong WITH ME!!!  i resigned before my orientation was even over since i had been reduced to an anxious, tearful mess who could no longer even remember things that i knew the day before.  im still looking for my second job after passing NCLEX but no bites at all.  next week i will be looking into volunteer opportunities.  im not trying to discourage you...just relaying my experience.  bad behavior, unprofessionalism and practicing the art of demeaning in nursing school was just a warm-up for what i expected to be an honorable, dignified profession.    

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Your experience is indeed unfortunate.Just continue to be who you are and as your become the experienced nurse, remember this, and it will help you as you interact with the new nurses and you will be able to have compassion for them. Sometimes we go through things, and learn things, and then can share possitively because of our experiences. Thanks for sharing.


Joyce Harrell, RN, OCN
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Legally, if I am not mistaken, when HR departments are called now, they are not allowed to give information except the dates you worked there. Beyond that, legally, HR departments should know they cannot give personal opinions, etc. I really wish you well on your search.


Joyce Harrell, RN, OCN
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I once worked at a nursing home where the DON was a Bully. She would scream at you in front of your peers, residents etc. If you did not do as she said you would be bllacked balled and fired.


I was never one of her favorites because I did not kiss up to her. Just went in and took care of the residents. Needless to say I was set up and terminated.  She even turned my license into the state. The complaint was unfounded. If you work for a bully get out now and run.

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" I absolutely agree with you.It is ashame that this inappropriateness continues within the healthcare industry,but it does.


  Ever wonder if Curtis Sliwa would create an Archangel for the Guardian Angels?"

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 I don't agree with cheating in any sense but the idea of bullying can take on a life of its own...as it has in this thread.  I know that there are many theories about why this happens (lateral hostility, the feeling of powerlessness, etc.) but are there any other professions that anyone can think of where women work together in close proximity with each other where this phenomenon could also be studied?  I'm trying to think of some...

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Oh my, best wishes to all wwith your future endeavors... Teresa