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Posted about 5 years ago Does it rill help to be behind bars. What lession is rilly learned |
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| Posted about 5 years ago I think it all depends on the person and situation. I question daily about some of the inmates that I see. |
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| Posted about 5 years ago It really helps the victims, it doesn't always help the offender. There are many programs in prison which have the potential to be beneficial. Some are voluntary, others are mandatory, depending on the offense. If nothing else, the offender learns that there are repercussions for his actions. Ideally, programming is successful and the offender does not commit any more crimes on the outside and has the skills to live a productive life. |
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| Posted about 5 years ago Rumer, ideally these programs are available and in most prisons they are not, because of economics, lack of personnel who can teach, lack of space and mostly the way prisoners are housed. The prison system is a complex grouping of unique problems. |
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| Posted about 5 years ago There are some people who need to be locked away from other people because of their violent natures. However, there are many, many non-violent offenders in prison who the system would have been better off finding alternative forms of punishment (and I'm not talking corporal punishment). Most inmates are simply warehoused until their sentences are up. The only thing many of them learn is how to be better criminals. The drug courts have been doing a good job of diverting drug offenders into rehab instead of prison, and I think that approach is the way to go with non-violent offenders, especially first timers. Prison makes the victim feel better. It satisfies a primal urge for retribution defined as justice. But in the long run it does not serve society well. It is expensive, ineffective, and cumbersome, and produces greater risks to public safety. I do think that murderer's, rapists, child predators, and such should be imprisoned to keep society safe. Rehabilitation in prison is largely a joke, though I do support giving inmates access to educational programs to give them job skills when they get out. But drug offenders need treatment. The mentally ill need to be in hospitals, not prisons. And minor offenses can be paid for with community service or house arrest. Locking someone up does not "teach them a lesson." |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I agreed with Theala 10 years ago...when my 17 year old was arrested I was ANGRY and when he was sentenced to 8 1/2-17 years for a first offence I was PISSED but they probably saved his life...he was passively suicidal for the robbery and this allowed for him to atone for his wrongdoing..now he is 27 and works and takes classes at a good school. So I have definitely changed that part of my opinion. I always heard about all the training and opportunities for college and voc programs...NYS does not have all that at the MAXB level |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I agree i think There are some people who need to be locked away from other people for safety reasons because of their violent natures. But there are many non-violent offenders in prison who i feel are not learning wrong by there punishment by just sitting there? |
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| Posted over 4 years ago In jail/prison they all become better criminals. They compare stories and mistakes (as they all it). Which leads to thinking of ways not to get caught again. I heard the funniest thing come out of a criminal. This is what he told me...... "I've learned a better way to be a drug dealer when I get outta here!" (this came from my daughters father, who i have not spoke to since:6 years ago) That is a true story. Now, tell me what is prison doing for him??? Teaching him to be a better criminal? He is a herion additct , so I hear. He really needs help. (for heavens sake, he is 29 years old and has 2 heart attacks) Instead he is still doing drugs in prison and still planning the "master plan" for the day he is released. There is just about as much drugs in the jails/prisons as on the streets. Makes me sick. The system is a joke... |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Makes me sick as well christine. It just is not right. We need some changes. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago yes i have a 20 year old son in jail. no i dont like it but he has put himself there. well he's in a program where he will get his GED and he will be able to go to college. i am hoping a praying that God keeps his hands around him. Now some people go to jail and learn from it. on the other hand, some people go to jail and they enhance there crime. so it is up to the individual. recently there were two guys that i wrote to while in jail. they both were arrested for drugs, and they both spent 5 years in jail. one is 33 and the other is 36, i really encouraged both of them. the 33 year old gets out and he is still scandaless. the 36 year old gets out and he is really ready to move on with his life and finish taking care of his kids. so here is a 50 50 chance. good luck to the both of them. it is an individual. oh i have a nephew that has been to jail about 5 times. the first 2 times i told him that i will support him financially and accept phone calls. mostly out of respect for my mother. well the other times he is own his own. it should only take one time for a person to go to jail and learn from it.
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| Posted over 4 years ago To swaller I know how you feel. But I do belive that they can change and in some cases it only takes one time and to become a better person. We all make mistakes nobody is perfect. And sometimes in life we have to go through something such as that to learn that lying cheating stealing gets you no where in life .You have to want to change |
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| Posted over 4 years ago my son is 27 and 2years out from his 8 1/2 yr sentence on a violent felony............he was not able to get college classes inside but did get an asbestos removers certification.
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| Posted over 4 years ago hang in swaller |
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| Posted over 4 years ago dwolf: what a very nice story to hear. I needed to read something like this after seeing all of the other negative bits on here. You can be proud of your son. darla |
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| Posted over 4 years ago We just do not have enough funding for rehab. We beleive in punish, punish, punish and punish some more. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I'm proud of him now....but for 8 1/2 years it was hell...he went in before he turned 18 ........it ripped me up for years..really challenged my ability to stay sober |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Unfortunately. thanks to Ronald Regan, the social reform programs were all cut during his term. Mentally ill and drug addicted people who did not need jail/prison had no where else to go, so they were either on the street, or sent to prison instead of rehab. The prisons have become the new mental hospitals, and the drug addicts and mentally ill just keep on going back. It is truly sad and doesn't say much for our country. It seems our policy in America if people are ill (mentally or otherwise) or unable to work, is to put them away. If they can't make money, pay taxes, or vote, they are just disposed of. So, a lifetime of just shutting people up and out is the way the problem is handled. I don't have the answer, but I know this isn't it. Lundellhull |
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| Posted about 4 years ago each family member i've had go to jail has been either getting thier life together has a job and it totally helped thier lives. Some just thought of it as a vacation from thier crimes because when they got out they were back in within a year or so. Then the others have been to jail for the most stupidest stuff. so yeah they learned thier lesson but they just shrug it off because of what they went in for. So i guess it just depends on the crime/s and the persons life. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago One aspect of being in jail is overlooked. As long as your loved one is in jail, they cannot attempt to commit a violent felony against me, i.e. robbery, home invasion, car jacking.. thereby putting me in the position to kill them in self defense, and thereby opening me to lawsuits from family members. Criminals are not the only people with weapons. Man will not be free until the last lawyer is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. With apologies to Voltaire |
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| Posted about 2 years ago Hi, |
