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JUST VOTE!! So many Americans do not and that's a shame.

And I also will be voting for McCain.

The point I was making was about "voting" in general.  I'm sure when people go to the polls to vote they have already made their decision as to who they will vote for because of what they stand for.  I know when I vote I know what I am voting for. The point was TO VOTE. Some people don't vote and then complain about the candidate that was chosen. Everyone should vote and every vote counts and it can make a difference.

I really don't care who anyone votes for.  What I do care about are those who don't vote and then complain about who is in office. So my point is, in case someone doesn't get it, don't complain if you don't vote.

Butterfly8 says ...

charlita says ...

It's the lesser of two evils. I don't like either one. ( I was rooting for Hiliary). But I don't want Obama more than I don't want McCain. (did that make sense?)

Why not? Is it because of  his color? What do you feel about Clinton's endorsment? Do you feel it's genuine?

I know for me it's because he lacks substance, he has a weak resume. Change? change for the better or worse?  I want more than change, I don't want to change just for the sake of change...give me something! I don't think I see it in McCain either, but I don't see him taking the ship down as fast as Obama.

I am now to the point that I wish the "hopefuls" would state their platforms and stick with them.  It seems that depending upon which group they are talking to, they change the answers to fit the group.  If they state one thing to one group of people, they should state the same thing to all the other groups of people they address.

sap- I'm sorry if I offended you in any way (hence the "gift" I sent)...there is no debate-there is only a concern that people and the media run with less than the facts and from this mis-information opinions are shared that only serve to spread the mis-information (and if you look back through this post you will see you are not the only person I have challanged), and I'm not just speaking of Obama but also of McCain- lies and mis-information flurish regarding both of them and their wives. And its my opinion each of us needs to challange not only others but themselves as well. Politics is not black and white but often gray, not right or wrong/not good or evil- its a blend, or perhaps at best compromise or the lesser of each.

As to patriotism what one does or doesn't  wear does not make one patriotic- the greatest patriots I know wear scars- physical and mental (much like John McCain) as their symbols of their patriotism, other's symbols of their patriotism are found on "the Wall", at Arlington, on the beaches above Normandy, at Pearl Harbor, and in the graveyards of thousands of towns and cities through-out the world.

This too will be my final post on the subject, thank you for challanging me and hopefully yourself. Pax vobiscum.

kayakrn7 says ...

sap- please take a moment and view http://snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp- you may be surprised what you find regarding your statements about OBAMA...

kayakrn7-Thanks for the link. I appreciate it. I always look to snopes to bust unresearched forwarded emails that I get.

See, I knew this would get heated.

georgianurse says ...

Hillary wants government supported health care. Be careful if you wish for this. it is not all that i t is made out to be by liberals. Just speak to someone that has lived in G. Britain or Canada. Many of their citizens come here for transplants, etc because the waiting list is so long in their countries.

Bohemia says

I am from GB and have experience as a nurse in both systems.No system is perfect however I believe that it is everyones right to good health care.

At least in the Uk nobody loses their home or life savings so that they may have health care.

It is catastrophic enought ot be given a cancer diagnosis without having to worry about how to pay for it.

Or to have job with just 5 hours less than full time ,so that you have to pay 50% of your health care costs.

I was for Hillary, the reason her healthcare plan did  not come to fruition was because of the influence of the big insurance companies, Doctors and Lobbyists who were running scared at the thought of universal health  care.Then they would have to give reasons for every unnecessary test or Why? any procedure or surgery was required. Every day there are millions of elderly put on life support who have no chance of any quality or quantity of life.It is a moneymaking business.

Everyone was so afraid of the Clinton's getting back into the whitehouse   why?   He ran a surplus for the first time in decades. He brokered peace agreements. It was the Bush  Republicans who lost everything that Clinton had realised  over the past eight years and put this country onto a path that has led itThe USA to be villified around the world.

After 5 years of investigation and millions of dollars spent on trying to "get" him on any scandal all they could come up with was sex. Let me tell you there are more sins comitted in the boardroom than there are in the bedroom.So he lied about the "affair" and was stupid to try and cover it up he was trying to protect his wife and family.

Monica Lewinsky went into the White House determined to seduce the President. I am not condoning what he did, only saying Look at history to see the sins of all the other Presidents. Ronald Reagan was divorced and remarried, for what reason? Lyndon Johnston was the biggest womaniser Bush Senior was no innocent .Richard Nixon was aliar and a thief.JFK whom I was a great admirer of was a big womaniser, should I go on?

Look at the sins of the Bush administration.

1. over three thousand dead young men and women

2. billions of dollars in debt for our children and grandchildren to deal with.

3. Chaos in the Middle East,.Russia, Afghanistan, Pakistan.

4. No sign of Osama Bin Laden.Bush went into Iraq to get even for his daddy. Bin Laden was from Afghanistan, ther was never a reason for going into Iraq.

5. Look at the carnage in Sudan why has he done nothing there, I tell you why , there is no oil.

6. He has stood bye while MUgabe destroyed his country, which was the one in Africa with the best economy and now it is totally destroyed.The Janjaweed committed atrocities, as bad as or  worse that the holocaust,yet the Bush administrtaion did nothing. Why there was no oil.

oops got a bit carried away didn't I.

GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!

Well said bohemia.  McCain looks like another Bush. I'll vote for Obama!!

Let's not be naive about our political influences as far as voting goes in determining who the next President of the United States will be.  I think that lesson was learned from the election outcome of Gore and Bush 8 years ago.  You can still be the people's choice and not end up with the job!  The Washington "Powers that Be" will determine the outcome.  Still, it looks good to the world that we practice this democratic "ritual" of electing the Leader of the Free World.  At least we keep our elections fairly civil, no overt bloodshed, no opposition's heads on sticks, everyone can have their opinion without fear of their tongues being cut out.  No massive genocides of republicans or democrates by the opposing party.  So, we really are lucky to be able to participate, albeit a exercise in futility at best.

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -P.J. O'Rourke

Happy Labor Day everyone!

I would like to recommend a book for everyone to check out....It's called " The People's History of the United States".  I think it has a lot of interesting content...very relevent for the coming months and the election that will soon be upon us.  I found it quite interesting, and a little surprising as well. 

Have a great Labor Day.....thank heavens for those labor unions...and DOUBLE TIME!!!!!

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