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WHY DOES A PHYSCIAN ASSISTANT MAKE MORE THAN A NURSE PRACTIONER?

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I've told that a nurse is a nurse no matter what degree they have and anything with a doctors name even assistant is automatically more pay? i kind of disagree? a NP is some states i see can work independently? PA's need a doctor over them so why they get paid more with less education. I'm thinking of just goin to be a doctor or PA and quit nursing?

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I bring over $350.000 to this office and I still don't get what i deserve. I am amazed how PAs who can be some one with a computer or sales back ground go through a 2 year program and yet make as much or even more when compared to NPs. That really hurts. I think this is because of the fact that NPs education concentrates on research/ book knowledge and not much "hands on practice". Also, the fact that PAs are often hired by surgeons makes a difference in their pay scale in general. If I had to do it all over again I would go through a PA program. We are not being appreciated the way we should. The fact the Board of medicine and doctors are supporting PAs makes a difference, apparently.

Gity S., ANP-C, RNFA, Private March 11, 2008

We must unit! Employers for the most part want us to "play doctor" see as many if not more patients than t hey do, yet want to pay RN wages. What can we do? If I had stayed at the hospital as an RN I would be earning more and would have job security.

A A, np, private February 28, 2008

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I am thinking to go to studdy NP i just not sure its right decision. HHow bad is study for someone who is working full time mom , i signed to do it online

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It is a grind. You can do it though if you set your mind to it.

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Kelly Gardiner 12-06-2007

Nurse Practioner

Sadly, I don’t recommend people going to NP school. I have been in the business for 20 years and an NP for 10 and I don’t make much more than a 2 year degreed RN. I met a guy with a BSN doing home health care and he made $125,000 last year. I told him what I make and he was thinking of going to school to become an NP. He also had heard that he would take a pay cut and have to pay for school and work for free for clinicals. For you, I would suggest that you calculate how many patients you see per day that you work, look up the medicare and blue cross websites and figure out insurance reimbursement for your services, (make sure you calculate secondary insurance into the formula as well) and then determine what you should be making from there. This will give you a baseline of what the providers is making from your services. You can also look for a medical biller skilled in your field and find out calculations from that person. In my field of psychiatry, I get a 50% reduction in payment (as do psychistrists) so the amount billable is not what you get in return so find out what deductions you get if any, in your field, as well. Hence, the need to talk to a medical biller in your field. Note that the medical billers make about 5-7% of what you get from the insurance carriers. Good luck.

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There is a salary calculator on this site (see home page or under jobs) where you can look up any salary in any location.

You can also take a look at AllHealthcare.com - our sister site - to see about PA careers. Both have a lot to recommend themselves and both are facing HUGE growth potential.

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I too was thinking of going back to school to become a NP. I'm torn i guess between NP school or PA school. I just built a house i'm getting married, I work full time and from some collegues that I have spoke with they say you would have to quit school to get into PA school and be successful. They say NP is more at your leisure and you can take a class here and there. I definately want to go in a direction that is ultimately going to pay more as well as be a rewarding career advancement. I guess I will have to check out that other site and read up on more of the differences between the two.

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I want to be an NP and I figure I will make less than an RN, but I'm hoping it will be my passion and the money won't really matter.

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Why does a doctor get paid more than nurses when we are the ones 9 out of 10 times telling the doctors what we think the patient needs?!   I feel it's kind of like a marriage - just like they said in Big Fat Greek Wedding - The man is the head, the wife is the neck that turns the head!    Then again, it does come down to the doctor's ass for the most part, so I guess that's why they need more money for the malpractice insurance, for when they make a decision without talking to the nurse first.


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I too was thinking of going back to school to become a NP. I'm torn i guess between NP school or PA school. I just built a house i'm getting married, I work full time and from some collegues that I have spoke with they say you would have to quit school to get into PA school and be successful. They say NP is more at your leisure and you can take a class here and there. I definately want to go in a direction that is ultimately going to pay more as well as be a rewarding career advancement. I guess I will have to check out that other site and read up on more of the differences between the two.
To go for your NP, you're already an RN, so the reason you can do this more at your leasure is you're working on your advanced degree.  I'm sure you all realize this, but I just don't assume you've thought of it.
A PA  can not ever work independently, they always work under a physician, where  NP's in 27 states can and do work independently.

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TRUE but it comes down to how much you feel you can make to live compforatbly if thats the case PA is better they make more than NPs

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NP work independently & PA under a doctor! so in other words PA- make more $ less responsibility, NP-more respopnsibility less pay?

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NP work independently & PA under a doctor! so in other words PA- make more $ less responsibility, NP-more respopnsibility less pay?