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Is 27PATIENTS to one CNA on a dayshift FAIR?

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Iceberg_max50

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Posted about 5 years ago

 

imagine you giving 27 bathes before lunch

J014_sm_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

No its not fair and it has to be a gap in patient care with you being over worked. Find a position that has respect for the patients as well as staff. Your patients can not be getting the proper care needed. Its imposible!

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

That's not fair PATDEN55. Tsmith is right. Why not spread the number of patients to groups and give them bathes alternately?

Nana_and_grandkids_minus_noah_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

no-it's way too much even if you are doing nothing but giving baths. How can they expect one person to do this? It's not fair to the patients either.

Al_chamizo_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

It's not fair to you or your patients......... What are nursing homes becoming? A staging area for funeral homes? Just like we do during mass casualty triage... It's a shame that business and not care is what drives this particular nursing home.

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

I thought 2nd shift gave showers and baths too, why should this all be on 1st shift?

Att000022_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

Are we talking fair, or safe?

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There is no way that one person alone should be caring for 27 patients, nor is it even legal! If that is the type of working conditions you have to endure and that is the neglect that is endured by the patients, then it falls back on the staff of that facility to report to the proper channels so that does not happen. If you don't act to change things, then who will? It's not fair to you and it certainly is not fair to the patients.

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

Is it legal? I would check with the state to see how many patients a CNA can care for in a shift.

Demetrice_029

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

I worked at a subacute before day shift, through the registry, everone was total care, had trachs, foley caths, and GTubes. They didn't had disposables diapers, you had to change the whole entire bed, by yourself, mind you , the patients could not move, they had about 3 or bowel movements each through the entire 12 hour shift, and when they go, you have to change the whole entire bed. The nursing care there was loudsy, when I say loudsy, the nurses didn't irrigate the rectal bags, and when you are cleaning code brown all day, the foley caths were not place properly in urethra, so when you turn the patient, the cath comes out, one time I was changing a patient, It was my first time ever seeing a rectal bag before, the nurses didn't give no reports on the patients, so you have to work as you go, so to make a long story short, I turned the patients, and suddenly, the rectal bag fell on the floor, onto my shoes, I said DAMMIT, what was that, it was a overloaded rectal bag, it looked like it hadn't been change in a day or two. I was so mad, I called my registry, and told them that that was my last day, ever working there. So I know how it is to be burden down, without any help!!


I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health.

Iceberg_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

Well It is amazing the response you can get when you start a new topic. To make matters worse this hospital is a magnet hospital. It strives on being in the top one hundred every year. It looks like the ritz outside but when you get in oh my God some of the patients say.Dont get me wrong I love working there but some of the practices I see are very wrong. As for the 27-1 ratio I think it is against the law in amy aspect. 1 You are not giving appropiate morning care 2 some patients will get neglected (not purposely) and some nurse are not willing to help. But I look at it this way If they are no pct or cna then who willl wash the patients.(NURSES) They get the pct and then they still complain because they want them to do everything if we had to stand up and fight against the injustices of our profession it would shock alot of people.

Bbls_t_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

Humm I wonder if we work at the same place. I am a student nurse and have 15 icu patients. And now I am out due to a back injury. I wonder why? I just keep telling myself every week that passes means that I am closer to graduating.

Dad_stuff_029_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

Fair- not hardly, not for you but especially not for the patients.

Iceberg_max50

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no zonnie21 i doubt we work at the same place. You work in the icu in my icu we dont have pcts. this is on a regular tele med/surg floor. You have to ask ur self if u want to keep ur back or get the degree and cant work and in my icu the nurses are worst they have 2patients but sometimes they dont even get washed and when they come to the floor they have all sorts of breakdowns etc............. Dont get me wrong i love my job and the place i work but what i dont like is to see co workers being treated unfairly and i am one to speak up

Bbls_t_max50

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Rate This | Posted about 5 years ago

 

I am in a top ten magnet hospital. I can relate to some of the things you are going through. I only have 6 months until I graduate and I work one day a week. I will just have to be extra careful because I want my degree and will take a position where I don't have to do a lot daily care like I do now and like you do on a med/tele floor. I already have a job interview in a clinic. But believe me I feel your pain. It is not fair and I don't know about you but we can not keep techs on our floor.

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

OF COURSE THATS NOT FAIR, THAT IS TOO MANT RESIDENTS TO ONE PERSON

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Nope and heck no.  At our facility EVERYBODY does baths, cna's, lpn's and rn's.  Maybe we are weird, but we work together.  Honestly, this is a great place. Ive worked in places where things like that were done <treating cna's like crap and overrworking them while the RN sits and reads People magazine>.  I hope things get fair where you work............good luck.


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Angie

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Not only is this unfare, but also against the law!!!!! Might want to bring this to someones attention. Not only is it unfair to u, but your patents are suffering as well. No matter how good you are, its virtually impossible to give the proper care to each patient. 27 showers before lunch? Add feeding, rounds, and misc. demands, especially on the day shift!! NO, u need to address this issue.

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

it's not fair and also to the patient.WHY?because they will not receive proper care...

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OMG my mouth dropped when I saw this. I do not know where you live, but I would be bringing it to the attention of whoever regulates your standards of care for the area, like department of human services......


Do not walk out if you have accepted the assignment as this is abandonment, but speak up, speak up, speak up!!!!!!!!!The DON should be there to help if this is a staffing issues, or charge nurse of who ever is responsible for the unit... Put your foot down.


It is not fair to the patients or you...... This is neglect, and if my family member was where ever you work I would be PISSED.


I WENT TO SINCLAIR COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND CAPITAL UNIVERSITY IN THE LATE 1980'S AND EARLY 1990'S. LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU FELLOW NURSING STUDENTS.

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

That is why i am scared to do the cna course. I'm just going to skip to the LPN. I'm a certified home health aide and just one patient bath is enough for me.