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If You're Not a Nurse - Don't Call Yourself One!!!

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I am from arizona where I was a medical assistant for 7 years before going to school and getting my ADN. I never identified myself as a nurse before I took my boards, and I agree with many others on this post that it is a slap in the face to those who have passed the boards, to get the right to that title. If you want to be a nurse, do the time and get the licensure to back it up.



 


AMEN TO THAT!!!!!!!!


I think most of us have worked hard for where we are and who we are.........................so don't be ashamed of what or who you are.  If you are a CNA  then call yourself a CNA, if you are a LPN then call yourself a LPN, etc.   but if you are a LPN or a CNA then you are not a RN.

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I was an STNA for 3+ years and always corrected my patients when they called me nurse i didnt want that added responsibility at the time.  now that I am an LPN I work hand in hand with many of my peers who some think that they are above nurses and they talk crap about other nurses to other nurses to start drama.  I said this before to them and will always remember my roots as an aide because of how much I learned on my journey to becoming a nurse.  I am starting my ADN in january and until I pass my boards as an RN I would never say that i am.  I am an LPN and i am proud of who I am.  I have met many great RNs and many great LPNs and many not so great ones but all you can do is be the best you can be and admit to who you are Aide LPN or RN this way from the get go your patients know who they are asking for.  I get frustrated when I am doing med passes and patients say well I asked the nurse for a pain pill and they didnt ask me they asked their STNA and they didnt pass along the message that is my pet peeve...sorry  had to vent

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If an individual feels better about the jobs they are performing as a CNA (or another similar role) by giving themselves an "inflated" title ...why should that cause so much  disruption/care for concern for some of the RNs on this post?  As long as they aren't over stepping their bounderies as far as duties...who cares?  Imitation is the biggest form of flattery, right? just my 2%

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If an individual feels better about the jobs they are performing as a CNA (or another similar role) by giving themselves an "inflated" title ...why should that cause so much  disruption/care for concern for some of the RNs on this post?  As long as they aren't over stepping their bounderies as far as duties...who cares?  Imitation is the biggest form of flattery, right? just my 2%.


 


It is cause for concern for many reasons. A) patients get confused on whom to ask for what they need, B) In Arizona, stating you are a nurse when you are not, will end you up on the impersonators list with the state board, and C) Unfortunetly, it is the titles that define boundaries of duties. It is a bad practice to get into and a dangerous one since you never know who might be listening.


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worked for a nursing home.  The unit clerk thought she was in charge of the unit. She would tell us nurses how to do our jobs. She would say "My nurses." She would take telephone orders over the phone. Call doctors on her own. Families etc would often call her the head nurse and she never corrected them. She became so overbearing that she would check our work and then run to the DON and tattle. The DON always stuck up for her mole.   She likes to play nurse and the sickening part she was backed up by the DON. Sad.


WOW, where to begin.  First this unit clerk was practicing nursing without a license.  She is not qualified, nor authorized by any state law to take telephone orders.  First, it should be reported to the DON, and then reported to the state, that the DON did not take action.  This could cause legal action by both the state, against the unit clerk, and action by the STATE as well as the State board of Nursing against the DOM because the DON condoned this behavior.

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If an individual feels better about the jobs they are performing as a CNA (or another similar role) by giving themselves an "inflated" title ...why should that cause so much  disruption/care for concern for some of the RNs on this post?  As long as they aren't over stepping their bounderies as far as duties...who cares?  Imitation is the biggest form of flattery, right? just my 2%



then the patient would think that everything that the CNA says is from years of proper education when in really did not.  The patient then would not know who to listen to .............................the CNA that is posing as nurse or the REAL NURSE!


plus it is illegal.   it would be like me saying that I am a doctor when clearly I am not!

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hello all,


I think most of the health professionals know exactly what I am talking about when I refered to the crazy egos in the hospital.   I am not referring to the eggregious oversteeping of duties being performed by unskilled/unqualified workers.  I am referring to 99.999% of the cases when CNA/LPN/other workers are called  nurse  (because the patient wants to quickly get the attention of the CNA/other HC worker) to assst them.  Someone over hears it and tells someone else who makes a big issue out of such a frivilous mistake in title and makes a point to go to the patient explaining that the worker wasn't a nurse or "real" nurse (refering to LPNs).  Pointless and this irritates the patient & family members  ...in my opinion lowers the patients experience @ the hospital. I have witnessed this personally when my grandparents and father was in the hospital for extended periods of time. 

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I need to clarify something.......................a LPN is a real nurse.  thus the name Licensed Practical Nurse. 

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in state of north carolina its against board of nursing rules for cna to not identify/clarify that they are n ot a nurse.also suppose to wear nametags with picture ID and title.but alot of patients do call their aide nurse.

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As a Medical Assistant since 1988 I have worked in family practice where I was not limited in my skills (Injections, IV's, venipunctures). I have worked as a phlebotomist, thaught Medical Assisting, worked in Stem Cell trasnplant, and spent 5yrs interrogating and progamming Pacemakers and ICD's. I lived by the thought that education cost but knowledge was free. I learned how to do things that I now know I had no business doing. I understand the frustration of being in lateral positions with RN's and LPN's doing the same job and even training a few of them while not recieving the same acknowledgment.


I have spent the last four years getting my degree in nursing and pending a grade of 40 or higher on Mondays finals, I will graduate with high honors in two weeks. I have always respected the title of a nurse and have waited a long time to claim it as my own. I feel that once I recieve my results from the State BON I can finally call myself a nurse and no longer have to explain to anyone why I can't. There is a false sense of security to working under a license that is not your own. I have spent many years having the luxury of running to someone else when a pt was having problems. Now I will be the one others will run to and believe me there is a lot being ask for when a pt calls out for a "nurse".

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The title "Nurse" is what it is. A nurse is an RN, LPN or LVN.  A nursing assistant is a nursing assistant on the nursing staff.  Practicing as an NP, I was on the medical staff, but still called myself a nurse.  I also have a PhD and if I am doing nursing, I tell the patient that I am a nurse.


It's not being pompous.  Look through all that is written about the nurses cap.  The title "Nurse" is something that was earned through years of learning and practical experiance.


I did the work of an LVN when I was a Navy Hospital Corpsman, but I was still a Corpsman.  When I was a Nurses Aide, I said so and when I became an RN, I refer to myself as a nurse in ALL situations in which I am practicing as a nurse.


I wear the doctor title when I am doing public health, epidemiology, health care administration or college teaching; but never when I am nursing.


This is my opinion.  I have had all of these titles and was/am proud of each one of them.


Finally, Onthesnap had it right, at the end of the day, I am responsible for the actions of all non-licensed personnel working under my license.  That is what the difference is.


Tom, PhD, MPH, BS(N), RN-C, CHN

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I'm a CNA too... I work in a nursing home, and I've found that most people ASSUME that I'm a Nurse... When I'm walking down the hall and someone wants something, they call out "Nurse!" Usually, I don't feel the need to correct them. But, I never call MYSELF a Nurse. For instance, if someone says "Nurse, Can I have a glass of water?" I say "yes" and get the water. I don't feel the need to say that I'm not a nurse. BUT... If someone were to say "Nurse, I'm having trouble breathing" or something like that, I wouldn't pretend to be a nurse and handle the situation myself. I wold tell them "I'm just the Aide, and I will go tell the nurse and have him come in right away." For the record, everytime we get a new resident or patient, I introduce myself as the CNA.
same here. most residents think we are nurses, so i don't always feel the need to correct them when they ask for simple things. But if it is something medical i always say, i am the nurse aide i will get the nurse for you. I always introduce myself as an aide. 

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Faithcomesfirst -  I totally agree about residents or patient calling out for assistance.  I believe that the larger argument was about NA/CNA/LNA's introducing themselves (or making similar overtures) with the intent of impressing upon others, that they are who they are not.


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 I have seen that sometimes the patients call the CNA nurse because I guess do not understand the difference and they think that everybody is a nurse. I just graduated from nursing school and I am not going to call myself a nurse until I get my RN license, I am a GN now and then when I pass my boards I will very proud to call myself a nurse. 

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Dr.Tom, sanvera, faithcomesfirst,


              I was going here, but Naw, I'll pass...Teresa

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 I find it hard to believe that a CNA would introduce themselves as a nurse.  In my experience, most CNAs dont introduce themselves at all.  This sounds like something a patient would assume (and not corrected), refer to the person as such and then escalates into an issue within the staff....the first option is too scary to believe for either party involved, no?

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I agree with dedicated_to_nursing, cna or ma's  as myself should always be introduced by what they are. I myself have been through this, when patients call me 'nurse'. And I hated, because I know myself that I am only a medical assistant. I always corrected them. Right now I am going to school for RN and man I tell you it is hard.  So I guess, anyone who has greater education than others deserve to be called for what they have earned and work hard for.

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I believe that all professions have their own distinct titles and should be used as such. I am a LPN, and I can't go identifying myself as a RN or an ARNP. Get the picture! No matter what you are called, we all work together for the benefit of the patient. I am what I am and that  is an LPN!

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Thank you, 09157238.


I spent the last 20 minutes trying to say about the same thing on a different posting - we are all on the same team, just different players taking on different roles.


Well said.


Tom, PhD, MPH, BS(N), RN-C, CHN

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If you lookbackover hes notes aon this forum., you will find out that I esd going to but changed my mind..


Well this was not what I can say, We are a team for the patient and"Can't we just all get along" We all have titles, butthe most im[portant iis that we are there for the patient, not a pagent for nametags..Teesa

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Thank you, Teresah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sorry for the misspeling.. Brain spasms...Teresa

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I worked at a Manorcare that the unit clerk pretended she was a nurse.Got telephone orders, gave out medical advice.  The DON was aware and ignored what she done. Only because this unit clerk would hug her, and rat everyone out.

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I do believe that it will bite her inher behind some day..Teresa

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When I introduce myself and goals for the shift ahead with my patient and their families, I detail my role as their RN. I then detail the role of the CNA, and their goals, and professional role. So many times when patients complain about the "RN" it turns out to be the CNA who the patient confused with the RN. I work with the best CNA's, but they are not RN's,and should never tell the patient that they are, and if there is an issue the patient does not know "who told them".  Keep professional roles detailed and clear to decrease confusion in the health care setting.


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Guys, I have been in the hospital several times over the years...I don't have a problem with any of the care I've been given.. There are so many people that run around the hospital all day for their own reason..Patients should be able to tell who ever what they are needing.. And thenit is that person' responsibilty to follow up with the appropiate person....Teresa

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 I joined this website just to comment on this thread.  In no way should a CNA introduce themselves as a nurse or an LPN introduce themselves as an RN.  I've gone through intensive schooling for 5 years and I earned the letters RN, BSN behind my name!!! I worked as a nurses' aide and I respected the nurses who have gotten through school before me and would do nothing other than greet my patient with "hello, I am your nursing assistant today".  Stop being a fraud and lieing to your patients.  I actually believe it is illegal in some states to go into a room as a CNA or Nursing student and claim to be there "nurse" for the day.  I would expect that anyone who worked as hard as i did to get where I am to have the same opinion.  

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I'm a CNA and I'm mistaken all the time as a Nurse, I correct them right away as to who I am, if it's something I can help them with I do it but I always inform the accountable what I did. Most nurses I work with don't show their faces half the time and of course If I'm all the patient see most of the time he will think I'm the nurse. We have MSNAs (multiple skilled nursing assistants) and on top of their own assignments as nursing assistants, the nurses add more work needing their blood drawn, ekg, foley inserts if they can't get it. Although the MSNA jobs have played out they are still working as CNAs but making more money. Although they are more skilled as regular CNAs, I notice some RNs resent them acting more of a nurse than a CNA. I don't consider myself a nurse but I'm working on it because you can tell when you are being discriminated on how certain people talk to you.

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Ok, I think if there was more caregiving and less fingers pointing ,it would make your position (what ever it is) a whole lot easier.. Please don't sweat the small stuff.. Just take care of the patient the best you can.. Hugs,Teresa

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I don't know what the ethics portion of the CNA program states, but I am days away from graduating as a Medical Assistant, ( my jumpstart to NP in Cardiac surgery) and it is right in our MA code of ethics training that we are to correct our patients and even the physicians when the flub up. Even if it is something as simple as asking for water! Because we are NOT nurses!!  RN's and NP's are far more educated and frankly we don't deserve to share that title! And while I will agree that all the positions work their butts off and contribute tons to the medical team as a whole, and yes we are all part of the field of nursing we just can't allow someone to mistake us for something we are not! I can almost guarantee if it was a patient or family upset about a mistake made by "their nurse" a CNA or MA would surely correct them then! Everyone deserves respect at their level, but the truth is that a CNA requires only weeks of school, an MA only requires a year of school. Rn's and NP's are in school for at the very minimum 2 years. There is a HUGE difference!  I was a CNA, and never had a situation that I couldn't politely correct someone that called me a nurse, and as a new MA, I fell strongly about it so I know I wont have problems in the future! My RN's will have my respect for their title! The respect they get for how I am treated has absolutely nothing to do with this topic~! =)

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