First off, let me say that you are right - your credentials don't always mean you know more than someone else, whether those credentials are LPN, RN, CCRN, BSN, MSN, CRNA, or even MD.  What they do mean is that you bear a certain level of responsibility for patient care.  Instead of fostering internecine warfare and continuing the RN -vs- LPN argument, which seems to be an ongoing discussion; or the CNA -vs- LPN/RN argument - why not consider, as professionals, that we are all here for the patient, and that our roles are complementary to patient care.

An adversarial relationship helps nobody - ultimately not only our profession but our patients suffer from it.  And that is unacceptable.

Instead of storing up a list of faults (ha ha, look the RN can't even run the suction machine) - do we consider showing someone how to use unfamiliar equipment, fill out unfamiliar forms, et cetera?  Sometimes people are "too good" to learn from someone else, but more often than that they are unsure, insecure, and uncertain of who to ask for help or how.

We are nurses.  Aren't we supposed to be empathetic, caring, supportive?

Maybe I misunderstood that part in RN school.

Laura I remember working @ St. Anthony's Training RN student. Remember when we had to train BSN students @ you know where. Bonnie

We are all part of a team to take care of the patient.I listen alot to the cnas as well.They  have knowledge in areas that don't have.I will always heed their advice and learn from them as well.I don't disregard them because  I am the lpn..Nursing is ever changing.It is a constant learning experience for us all!!

DR, RN, or LPN aren't they all one team to provide the best care for the patient

tdage says ...

- why not consider, as professionals, that we are all here for the patient, and that our roles are complementary to patient care.

We are nurses.  Aren't we supposed to be empathetic, caring, supportive?

 

Thank you tdage... I couldn't have said it better myself.. We need to stop the title bashing.  A nurse is a nurse and we are there for the same reasons. Patient care!!

doesn't matter what title you have but how much you love the title you have

iluvnrsing says ...

Get over it allready. Maybe I am going to add the initials behind my name of "WGAS" Who gives a shit?" So, if you are so damn samrt that you teach RNs. Go get your  RN, take over as boss and fire the dumb asses.

 

LOVE your reply ! Yes we are all nurses, but nurses with different levels of experience, training and schooling. I 'm going to be a RN not a LPN .  Don't RN's learn more in school than LPN's anyway?  We all should treat each other fairly but honestly RN's are paid more for the simple reason; I've been studying like a dog for almost 4 yrs to be a RN not a LPN. People need to stop the complaining and do what makes them happy in their life. We are all care givers. Next housekeeping will complain they aren't LPN's or RN's!! LMAO 

iluvnrsing says ...

 

Well sap, according to what I have been reading on here in the gospel according to LPNs is that the  RNs are too dumb to breathe and LPNs are so very smart after one year of training they can teach RNs. So, there you have it. The initials RN mean Really Numb brain and LPN means Let’s Play Nasty.

I am so sick of this.

 

yep me too!  However, where I've ever worked, RN's are always oriented by other RN's not LPN's because of the difference in the scope of practice.

And here is my 2 cents.  I am an LPN, have been for a long, long time.  I respect and admire the majority of the RN's I have worked with over the years.  Just as I have respected and admired most of the LPN's I have worked with in the past 27 yrs.  Yes, I have needed to explain and demonstrate different procedures to new RN's.  So what, I was lucky enough to have had that experience in my clinical training.  Everybody has to learn something, usually lots of somethings during orientation.  That is what it is for.  We have all been there, done that if we were fortuate enough to have more than a few days of orientation.  So you are waiting for my point or 2 cents.  My gripe is with the ANA.  I can become a member of the ANA, can't vote, have no say in anything, my dues are the same as any RN's but on top of everything else, I am classified as "other".   Anybody can join the ANA as other.  My 27+ years of nursing mean nothing.  So I joined the National Federation of Licensed Practical Nurses.  Suggest you do the same.  Cause ain't nothing gonna change.

i thought as a community of "nurses" that we would be able to get along and forge new relationships regardless of titles.. I hope that one day we can "all" get along.  We are all nurses, RN, LPN, etc.  To me I think that we should all respect eachother regardless, we all have the same stresses... and the same issues.. and we all want to better our field (Nursing in general) I think the best way to do that is to stop rehashing the same arguments, and work together as teams.

We all take the same oath..

I solemnly pledge myself before God and in the presence of this assembly, to pass my life in purity and to practice my profession faithfully. I will abstain from whatever is deleterious and mischievous, and will not take or knowingly administer any harmful drug. I will do all in my power to maintain and elevate the standard of my profession, and will hold in confidence all personal matters committed to my keeping and all family affairs coming to my knowledge in the practice of my calling. With loyalty will I endeavor to aid the physician, in his work, and devote myself to the welfare of those committed to my care.

I didn't see any specific titles there. did ya'll?

I am an LPN also, but that doesn't mean I want to see us all argue about our titles.  It is not snobby it is just ridiculous that we are adults acting like children.  Because " RN's" are not the only nurses who act rudely to LPNs... SO why keep kicking the dead horse???? Why argue with our peers.. Because I know alot of RN's that respect me as an LPN and would never think of discriminating against me because of my title.  The respect me for the work I do and the difference I try to make... That is what makes a nurse.... not their title but their passion so why kill eachother because we chose different paths to our goals.. we should try to come together and buffer the edges.. fill in on their weaknesses and take some of their strength.. that is team.. that is what makes a good nurse.  coming together professionally and taking care of patients.. they are the important part in this.. and I have never had a patient stop me at the door and ask what my title was.. they were just happy that someone was there to nurture and care for them...

I worked my ass off to be an LPN too.  I have also worked my ass off in a BSN program where I am one semester from graduation.  I think we can always learn something from other people.  Even for the people who you may think are below you!

BSN school is no harder than LPN school.  But, hey who am I?  I'm just a LPN still!

Can someone explain to me how a LPN thinks they are smarter and better trained/educated than a RN?

Has this world gone bonkers??!! Since when can a LPN help train me to become a RN? What the hell.

If we were all trained and educated the same and made the same amount of money, we wouldn't need CNA's, LPN's, or RN's. RN's go to school longer for a reason and I must add dammit that we pay a lot more MONEY FOR SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!   I have been studying my ass off for RN.

This was just my two cents.....................................

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and thats the exact reason why lpn's get a crappy name for themselves. everyone is to defensive about their title. nobody once said that rn's dont work their a$$ off in school. the point being made is that sometimes as an lpn your under appreciated for the things that you can do and we are made to feel like we arent worth a crap. but i guess some rn's dont know that feeling bc they have never been an lpn. for once everyone needs to step back and take a piece of humble pie. rn's be thankful that lpn's are willing to show you how to do something and lpn's be thankful that there are rn's that are willing to teach you. i could give a rats a$$ less about who trains me at a job. as long as they are knowledgeable about what they are teaching me, so that i understand my duties better.

very well said!!!! thanks diane!

LET ME SAY THAT YOU ARE RIGHT  IN ALL WHAT YOU MENTIONED .IN MY HOSPITAL SOME RN DOESNT  KNOW HOW TO DO ECG  OR READ IT BUT FOR ME AS LPN I KNOW TAKING ECG AND READING IT.AND ALSO RN ARE INSULTING SOME TIMES LPN AND ALWAYS THINKING THAT LPN DOESNT HAVE BRAIN FOR EDUCATION OR ATTEND SEMINERS OR LECTURES BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT NURSES LIKE THEM.