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Posted over 5 years ago

 

Today's featured article highlights that painkiller use in the U.S. has nearly doubled in the last decade. What do you think are the main causes for this increase? What negative effects do you think it will have?

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It's our society, people want the easy way out. Why not stay high all the time, they are all addicts except for those with legitimate reason e.g cancer.

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Negative effects of pain killers? Abuse and Dependency but not a cure.  It's the easy way out but we are not really treating the cause of the pain so, what do we expect, when the pain pill effect is gone, pain is back.  I have suffered from so much pain starting from my neck to the shoulder and down to my lower back, and then later to my head.  I decided I needed a reflexologist but I cannot find one available in our area. My husband suggested a chiropractor.  After a few visits I knew I did not have bones or joints or whatever that needed alignment,  and I really have to find someone who knows how to do at least Shiatzu massage, Swiss Body massage, and foot reflexology.  Somehow, I found a Foot Reflexologist in Mason City and had one session with her.  I felt some relief but I did not give her another call. " If I can only do the massage on myself,  I would", (because I know how to do it, I went to school to learn reflexology ) I told myself. 


Pain pills did very little on me.  Pain pills made me feel so sleepy I cannot concentrate at work.  I bought  a massage machine similar to those being advertised on TV, the one with Shiatzu and Rolling settings and I sit on it for at least 30 minutes (2 times 15 minutes each setting) every night and I felt so good I don't have those neck, shoulder and headaches anymore.


CNA's job is stressful and requires a lot of muscles and strengths.  If I will not de-stress every night on my massage machine I could accumulate hardened muscles and stiff neck, and back pain.

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As a chronic pain sufferer  I am frightened and amazed by these posts. Do all nursing people see us as wanting to get high? It certainly would explain a lot of the behavior I have to deal with from medical staff.


 

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Cancer is not the only reason for pain medication, there are many other chronic conditions needing pain relief.  I believe in staying on top of the pain, because I learned early on when I worked an orthopaedic floor, you can't chase the pain.  There does come a time, when the site has healed when pain medication should not be needed other than NSAID's.


There are alternative treatments for chronic pain sufferers besides/inconjunction with pain medications. 

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Our pain clinic is using lidocaine pumps, and prn narcotics for increase in pain.  With the lidocaine pumps, I have seen a decrease in the use of narcotics in the acute care setting.


thepaindone,  sorry you feel this way, but we do see a lot of people that have narcotic seeking behavior.  I've seen people on oxycontin, lyrica, methadone, and then taking prn percocet. and morphine.  These are people without terminal cancer.  At some point, I think every nurse has seen this and you have to question if the pain is really physical.  Back in the day, when patients could smoke in the hospital, I had a patient that would ask for a cup of coffee and light up a ciggerette before I gave him his morphine, IVP. 

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I think that it is easy to get meds now.  I have heard from multiple ER nurses about pain seekers.  They are regulars and come to get their RX.  And it is easy..... If you think not, the next time you see your Doc,  just ask for a RX and see what happens.  I bet that pad comes out in a flash.


 


On a slightly different note parents beware!    Children are now getting their first taste of meds from their parents medicine cabinet.  I read an article a few weeks ago and it was shocking that 10 and 11 year old children were taking narcotics.  If you have leftover meds from an injury or surgery...........GET RID OF THEM NOW.  Don't leave temptation.  You are asking for trouble.

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Do not flush them down the commode.  Call your local hospital, police/firestations and find out where you can take them to be disposed of.

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Personally, I think its inhumane not to treat pain............its been called 'the other vital sign'.  I do think diagnostics should be used to rule out the source, then treat the source.  Each patient is different and I've seen depression expand the 'thoughts' of pain............has anybody else seen that?  I have med surg background, not much psych.    I hate my patients in the hospital to suffer needlessly, but I also hate the thought that pain pills can mask other symptoms that might be the underlying cause of a potential serious problem.  Sort of a catch 22 thing here.  For inpatient problems, I hate to see somebody with a bp and heart rate go through the roof because of pain, but a good h&p sure does help to see if there is a pattern of abuse, I guess.


We only have one heart, take care of it!

Angie

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I'm not sure what nurses are trained in related to drug abuse and addiction. I can tell you this no matter what it looks like to you, no matter what the addict says, it is not a voluntary condition. No one abuses themselves like that for fun, even if they manage to convince you they do. It is a pretty easily recognized involuntary response to negative stimuli in early development.


If your mind goes directly to trying to affix responsibility you are missing the point.


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Kittyrn says ...



Our pain clinic is using lidocaine pumps, and prn narcotics for increase in pain.  With the lidocaine pumps, I have seen a decrease in the use of narcotics in the acute care setting.


thepaindone,  sorry you feel this way, but we do see a lot of people that have narcotic seeking behavior.  I've seen people on oxycontin, lyrica, methadone, and then taking prn percocet. and morphine.  These are people without terminal cancer.  At some point, I think every nurse has seen this and you have to question if the pain is really physical.  Back in the day, when patients could smoke in the hospital, I had a patient that would ask for a cup of coffee and light up a ciggerette before I gave him his morphine, IVP. 



Just want to point out that Lyrica is NOT a narcotic. It is an anti-epileptic medication that is used to treat neuropathic pain.

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Rate This | Posted over 4 years ago

 

Yes, that is correct Lyrica is not a narcotic, and for the record neither is Lidocaine.  My point was, that the patient was recieving a variety of  meds that should have 'some' effect.

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In KittyRN's defense, she didn't say lyrica was a narcotic.

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One thing common to frequent users of  alot of painkillers, is constipation which can lead to massive complications.  When I did home health, so many elderly patients already had issues of constipation, but when they add narcotics for pain <alot of them were post surgical patients, cancer patients, etc. and were not drug seekers>, its going to make bowel problems worsen.  As the younger people are being frequent users of narcotics and I'm not saying they are 'drug seekers' , they dont realize the damage they are doing to their bowels.  What 35 year old man or woman wants to have to go to the ER for abd pain with a 10 on a 1-10 pain scale, they have to do an emergency bowel resection, and the next morning they wake up with a colostomy.  I know that is not the norm, but it's happened.  Its just not a topic people like to discuss, they go pick up the rx at the drugstore and throw away the printed sheet the pharmacist puts out describing the drug, side effects, contraindications, etc. 


We only have one heart, take care of it!

Angie

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Sorry, I did not mean to appear like a  know-it-all. Just wanted to clarify this since Lyrica was mentioned in the same sentence as some other narcotics. I apologize for this.

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Working in the NICU I obviously do not see adults, but I do see infant's of drug addicted mothers. I am not talking street drugs, either. I am talking about Methadone that they were prescribed to get them off their lortab addition or oxycoton addiction. These babies would make great commercials for "This is your baby, this is your baby on drugs!" They have terrible withdrawls. They are unconsolable without their fix of methadone or now we are using Morphine or Tiniture of Opium.  Then 2/3/4 years later we see the same mothers having another Methadone addicted baby because they are still not off it themselves. It is just one more med to get addicted to. They should pass out birth control pills with the Methadone pills. These poor babies don't deserve a start to life like that!


 

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sewnew: Its all good.


My Mom had chronic pain issues with her legs (diabetes, and compression fx), interestingly she found complete relief after being placed on elavil.  She's been on it for close to 10 years, and has had excellent results with it.  Before that she was sleeping only 2 or 3 hours a night due to the pain.  About the third week on it, she said that she had slept all night for the first time in over 20 years.  Didn't even get up to pee (LOL).  There are many non-narcotic alternatives that have promising results. 


My father (92) just started on darvocet (Narcotic).  Although, they tend to discourage this in the elderly, it has worked for him.  He also takes Ultram (non narcotic).  He has had prostate cancer for about 5 years, and has started having issues with pelvic pain. 

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Hey, has anyone seen methadone being prescribed for pain?  I've had several patients recently that are taking methadone for pain, and not for drug use.

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We have quite a few mother's that are prescribed Methadone for pain, it replaces the oxycoton or lortab they were taking for pain!

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That is just plain crazy. I'm having some issues understanding this.  Up until recently, I thought methadone had no value as a pain med.  Now, I have to say, I'm just plain confused.

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A persons pain is what they say it is.  No matter what you think about that person the pain is still real to them even if the area is healed!!!!  Addiction is a disease despite what some of you think and feel when it comes to those you calll "seekers".  It is a sad situation and though it can be aggervating at times you are still the nurse and if the MD orders it give it.  I would hate to think that someone let me or one of my family members suffer weither the pain is somatic or real.  Karma is something else and you never know when you might find yourself on the other end of the spectrum.  Psych nursing has taught me alot about addictions and what people go through,  so I am more sympathetic now that I understand psychological dependance.

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I agree with 95% of what your saying. But eventually, if you continue to give out narcotics without using nursing judgement, to anyone, anytime they ask (even if that's how it's ordered) you will eventually OD someone.  On a unit that I worked in, one of my co-workers, kept giving a 'nice 50 something' lady (with drug seeking behavior) every med (sleeping pills, narcotics, anti-anxiety) blindly, because the MD had 'ordered it'.  At 6 am they found her in resp arrest, and had to ventilate her and give her narcan.  On another occasion, I gave a narcotic to a pt with diminished renal capacity post op and if my cna hadn't reported to me that he was breathing about 6-8 times a minute, I would have probably found him dead.  You can OD both the drug seeking, and the painful pt, that is where nursing judgement comes in.  The MD may write the order, but you are the one giving it, and you are going to be the one responsible if you OD the pt.