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CNA for almost 10 years grandfather onto the LVN? Then why NOT LPN to RN??????????????????????????????
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Posted almost 5 years ago It was mention to me in a e-mail : in the state of California, if you've been a CNA for almost 10 years, you can grandfather onto the LVN, with additional classes. I believe LPNs with 10 yrs experience should be grandfather with additional classes as well there needs to be some kind of bridge program? |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago I totally agree, but it is more difficult to pass the RN NCLEX, using that method, I hear it is hard to pass using the CNA to LVN grandfathering method. I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago As has been stated before, that's not being "grandfathered" - that's "transitioning." Grandfathering is the process of taking an existing situation and allowing it to continue after a law changes by legislative fiat - such as a drinking age change from 18 to 21, or emplacing a degree requirement for nurses where a diploma program was previously allowed, but allowing current nurses to continue working without increasing their education requirement. Transitioning is giving credit for current education and experience in the field - such as a CNA getting 6 hours of credit towards an LPN certificate, or an LPN getting 21 hours of credit towards an RN degree. That is happening today, right now, across the nation. I transitioned from Paramedic to RN. The program is harder. They do not reduce content, they condense it, give it to you faster, and expect you to be responsible for all of it just as a two or four-year program is. We all take the same NCLEX-RN; diploma, ADN, or BSN. That is why it is a NATIONAL exam, and a NATIONAL standard. There is no "grandfathering" across degree programs, nor should there be. If I want a Bachelor's degree, I have to take the coursework - even though I am an RN. It doesn't change my level of practice, but it does change my degree. The answer to the nursing shortage is NOT to lower standards. Ted "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago I wanted to ask a question Ted, is transitioning the same as bridging or challenging the boards. I understand your statement, because when I first went through my CNA orientation, the Director of Nurses, spoke about 30 unit option, which is part or was the grandfathering method used by LVN's when there was a big nursing crisis, I think in the 60's or early 70's. It allowed LVN's or LPN's to grandfather to the RN , by taking 30 units of required courses, I think this is a diploma program. I understand your statement, it is similar to my explaination, about the program being difficult, and accerelated. I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago Cuttie - yes, transitioning is "bridging" - not challenging the boards. Additional coursework is required before the NCLEX exam can be taken in either case. Years ago, Paramedics could challenge the NCLEX-PN, in some states, but I don't think that is the case any longer. RN's can challenge the Paramedic boards in some states, if they have an EMT certificate. EMTs, CMAs, Paramedics, LPN's, and those with equivalent training can challenge the CNA exam in Florida. The reverse, however is not true. Ted "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." - Ayn Rand |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago Grandfathering allows one to continue in the position they are currently in without doing any further education. The bridging allows one to go from one position to another without starting at the beginning, they get credit for the education and experience they have. These are different. You are not grandfathered into a position that you have never held Please don't pay any attention to my misspelled words or typos. Sorry I'll try harder next time. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago That is bazaar, because their is a huge difference between RN's and LVN's,and a PA and Medical doctor,who would want to be grandfathered into a profession, without having the proper knowledge, that is scarey. I am scared to death now, by challeging the boards from CNA to LVN. I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health. |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago I transitioned from LPN to RN. It was a very postive experience for me. By doing the LPN program I was able to get out into the hospital setting in six weeks. I loved it! It was a confirmation of my desire to be a nurse. My LPN training which was 11 months of schooling was much harder than my transitioning to RN (11 months). I will have my BSN in July and have applied already for online MSN program. Methodically plan your steps! It works.! What does love look like? It has hands to help others.
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| Posted almost 5 years ago What school for the MSN? What program? |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago I also was an LPN that took the bridge program to RN and am now working towards my bachelor's and then on to my masters. They also have some bridge programs from associates to masters- you start by earning credits for your bachelors and some of these credits go towards your master- usually you can get master in 18 months. That is just a plain master's degree- not nurse practitioner or anything special- you need to add on a couple of classes to finish that off. |
