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What should happen to nurses who cause patient deaths? According to a recent article, a nurse was allowed to keep her job after giving a patient the wrong medication, causing him to have a fatal heart attack, yet she kept her job. Should nurses be allowed to keep their jobs after such fatal blunders?

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Initially I was horrified at reading this but, after reading this article, this nurse was left unattended to preform a proedure she was unfamiliar with. I don't know how the medical education community works in Scotland but this was likely a new nurse left to preform something she had no experience with. That said she should have had presence of mind to seek help.

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Althought the nurse was indeed left unattended it is actually her responsibility to decline to preform the procedure. Who else is better qualified to make that determination than the one administering the care? It is unconscionable in this world someone can wrongfully cause the death of another then deflect the situation by claiming not to be qualified or properly trained. If that is indeed the case what is the detourant for continual oversight on practioner's actions and the subsequent consequences? Life without accountability/consequences is not life at all as the discussed situation demonstrates only too well.

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THIS IS AN OUTRAGE HOW DARE THEM THINK OF A HUMAN L.IFE AS IF IT IS NOTHING. SHE SHOULD HAVE NOT ONLY LOST HER LICENSE BUT SHE SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL. SHE DID SOMETHING THAT SHE WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH DID SHE NOT READ THE LABEL THAT STATED THAT THE MEDICATION SHOULD BE PUT IN THE PATIENTS STOMACH NOT HER VEIN? DID SHE NOT GET THE PROPER TRAINING? IT SEEMS LIKE SHE DIDN'T AND THE HOSPITAL WAS JUST AS NEGLIGENT AS THE NURSE. THEY CAN'T BRING THE WOMAN BACK SHE KILLED AND WHAT ABOUT THE FAMILY THEY HAVE LOST A LOVE ONE BECAUSE OF A BAD NURSE WHCIH NOW IS GOING TO MAKE THEM SUSPECT OF ANY NURSE

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

A phony nurse just plead guilty in a liposuction death. I understand all of the disdain for these guilty nurses, but are there sometimes when these events could be completely accidental?

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Jon, the liposuction death was not caused by a nurse but by a woman posing as a nurse.

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Sorry cdnurse - my fault. I was going by the original Boston Globe headline. I changed the headline accordingly. Thanks for keeping me honest.

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Jon, It is too bad that headlines like that can give nursing a bad name. I have seen that more than once.

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I'll definitely be more cognizant about it in the future. I wish that major organizations would refrain from this type of yellow journalism!

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Me too!!!!

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

I agree they paint us badly all the time. Why can't they just stick to the obvious facts? Why do they lie about nurses just to sell a few thousand more papers?

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

JonZ said:

What should happen to nurses who cause patient deaths? According to a recent article, a nurse was allowed to keep her job after giving a patient the wrong medication, causing him to have a fatal heart attack, yet she kept her job. Should nurses be allowed to keep their jobs after such fatal blunders?

I am only a nurses aid but aren't yous supposed to triple check the name and I have done nurse delegation in group homes I have never made this mistake, almost 28 years think she should have at least had her license suspended.

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im hearing alot bout lvns what is a lvn an what education do they have is it the same as my lpn training

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yes deanna it is the same just different initials used.

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accidents happen! that is why nurses have to be careful. However, the hospital should be liable in this case. They should not have left a new graduate in a position to where she had such little resources. And really, there is not enough info here to make a judgment about her. Did she have a preceptor? Was she off orientation? Did she seek help first? etc, etc. She doesn't deserve to go to jail and by law I don't really think anyone could try to put her in jail. It is a malpractice/accident issue which has to do with state board sanctions and hospital ethics review. the family could initiate a civil lawsuit but this had nothing to do with jail time.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

when I here about this type of situation I always try and put myself in that nurses shoes. It was an accident and it could happen to any of us.

at the hospital I work out a nurse with over 20 years experience accidentally grabbed a bag of regular insulin instead of NS. The pt died. The hospital paid for her court bills and kept her on as a nurse after the case was over. She still works for the hospital and is an excellent nurse.

We are only human and being human means that we are going to make mistakes. I do everything I can to make sure that I don't make a mistake and that is all I can do.

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I am sure some of you are seasoned nurses and others are new to the profession. I am dismayed at how little concern we show to nurses who make catastropic mistakes. Some say there is no consequence for the action, others say jail is the answer, both groups miss the life time memory these nurses will experience having taken a life. No jail time or license revocation can measure up to that. As georgianurse reminds us"we are only human and humans make mistakes" we are more likely to do so than some other professionals because of the nature of our work. For those of you who believe that organizations take seriously the nurse's right to refuse to perform a task, I ask that you email me your hospital's address because you are truly blessed. Of course you can lodge you concern but there is always backlash whether it comes from the co-worker who ends up performing the task or the manager who has to justify it to her/his boss, there is a price to pay. Should there be, of course not, but the reality is what it is.
Also for those who have never made a serious patient care mistake, stay tuned, your number will come up, how will you want the rest of us to view the decisions to give or not give you a second chance? Just asking..

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Three words. Scope of practice. It was the nurses responsibility to ask for assistance and/or refuse to administer the medication if she was the least unsure of him/herself. It is a professionals "fault" as-it-were if a patient dies because they made a mistake. That being said, should a career/life be ruined because of it, absolutely not. Nurses are not robots or ever superhuman ( although, many employers believe that we need to be) but where the "blame should lie? who knows, if the nurse was not trained properly Nurse Manager as well as the nurse, but there is always the deep pocket that a civil liability attorney would go for. The nurse that admisistered the medication was responsible...the basic nursing medication delivery R's, right drug, route, time. dose...The nurse shoulfd have been suspended at the very least, have mandated training and be monitored for quite a while....no nurse is perfect but not asking for help is not a great way to practice nursing...it can and has caused harm.

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Yes we are only human and being human we are going to make mstakes. But as nurses, our mistakes can cause someone their life. This nurse should have asked for guidance. In not doing so, she made the biggest mistake of all. We must take responsibility for our actions.

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georgianurse said:

accidents happen! that is why nurses have to be careful. However, the hospital should be liable in this case. They should not have left a new graduate in a position to where she had such little resources. And really, there is not enough info here to make a judgment about her. Did she have a preceptor? Was she off orientation? Did she seek help first? etc, etc. She doesn't deserve to go to jail and by law I don't really think anyone could try to put her in jail. It is a malpractice/accident issue which has to do with state board sanctions and hospital ethics review. the family could initiate a civil lawsuit but this had nothing to do with jail time.

I agree with this statement for the most part. I think many nurses may feel inferior or incompetent if they have to ask for assistance. It's as if we are worried about what the supervisor may think if we are inadequately equipped to handle a situation. There is scope of practice...we should be able to follow this without question, and without feeling as if we'll be berated for asking questions. There are protocols set in place for us in every practice for a reason. Things like this are bound to happen no matter what, and I am not sure I'd feel that there were a punishment out there that'd be suitable for this kind of mistake...after all, this woman must live with the guilt.


Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, worn out and screaming "Woo-hoo"!!!

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After reading everyone's posts it is clear that we see the element of human error. Of course we are trained propperly. Some things that are medical practice anyone can do with repetition , look at Hospice ..they train family members to do very difficult medical necessities. The difference is , the lay person will be MORE careful, they will read instructions dilligently and ask questions if they are nervous or unfamiliar. Once you have RN behind your name you are expected to know but it still comes down to repetition.I Never work with trachs or G-tubes so PLEASE do not expect that after being a nurse for 25 years gives me the knowledge that a new grad with 6 months of training ON that floor would have. If someone thinks they can come fill my shoes in Psych medicine in one day, lets have at it!!!!!SR