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I need some advice on a problem that I have working with isolation patients.  It really isn't working with the iso's , it's a case of working the iso's and then working with the general patients. 


At the hospital that I am at, when they assign patients, they do not take into consideration the acuity of patients or their diagnosis.  For instance, you might have an MRSA (active) patient, then a patient that is undergoing chemo (you know what their white counts do), then a patient in DT's, an MI, COPD, and don't forget to throw in that fresh surgery patient.   I feel that we are putting patients in jeopardy by cross contamination.  I know that we wash our hands but you don't change your uniform every time you go in and out of a room.  Last night I had 2 MRSA's that had draining wounds and granted I wore my disposable gown and gloves but after leaving the room and washing (for the second time, once in the room as I was leaving and then when I got out on the floor), but then I had to go into a room where a patient's WBC's were practically nil.  What are my chances of spreading an infection to the next patient? 


The other problem that I have is that we do block assignments.  Another words if you have all the hard patients so be it.  Last night I had two MRSA's, one leukemia, two cellulitis pt's that have not been confirmed as MRSA (you want to take bets) a pt going through DT's and the simple COPDer that kept saying she was going to die in 45 minutes.  I opened charts at 4AM, gave pain meds every three hours to 4 pts, chart checked, called MD's, etc.  Of course during this time I also admitted one patient.  Now my problem is that one of the other nurses had a group that all the patients did was sleep and while 2 of us nurses worked our backsides off, she was on the computer. 


I guess my real questions is do all hospitals assign patients this way and if so how do you handle it.?  I have been a nurse for 30 years and I can work with the best of them and I realize that there are going to be bad days and nights, however, here it is like this all the time. Does anyone have any suggestions that I could take to the manager for possible changes or should I just suck it up and hope like heck that I don't cross contaminate and keep going with the flow.  Also our charge nurse takes patients so she has her own problems and we might have up to 54 patients on the floor. 


Any suggestions, criticisms or just support would be appreciated.


Thanks.

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My understanding of the inpatient units in our institution is that they assign by rooms, not dx, acuity...etc.

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We also assign by room.On rare occasions if we have alot of  confused or out of control pt;s, we may try to break them up, but  it doesnt usually work that way .

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i understand at hospital i work at the same thing happen. We complain to management about it. It change for a season and also it base on who is in charge for that night. Some charge nurses are not fair when doing assignments. Go to management with your assignment's and explain to them what go on. Hopeful things will change. You just confirm that this go on everywhere. By the way with isolation patient at least we know what go on with them. We should watch for the patient not on isolation cause we do not know all there condition. Do not be afraid to stand for yourself.

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Don't worry, I do stand up for myself. I have brought this more than once and was told that "this is just the way it's done".  Big help.  People don't like change and I understand that but if it is in the best interest of the patients and future patients then I think change should be implemented.

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We also do room assignments but if there is alot of patients with different issues that are too much for one nurse we do try to split them up.  I do mean try.  It doesnt seem fair to but all the tough patients on one nurse.

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I have a situation simular to part of yours. One of the nurses yesterday said she was moving one patient in with one with MRSA in the wound. I inquired is that a smart thing to do with the MRSA in the room, there are other rooms this other patient could be moved to. Anyway, she exclaimed back to me..."I'm sick of you nurses that flip out about MRSA, it's not the big of a deal!!" She was not nice or professional at all, this was in the hall at a loud tone. I kept thinking all day yesterday, "are you kidding, what part did I not understand about MRSA?"


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I have a situation simular to part of yours. One of the nurses yesterday said she was moving one patient in with one with MRSA in the wound. I inquired is that a smart thing to do with the MRSA in the room, there are other rooms this other patient could be moved to. Anyway, she exclaimed back to me..."I'm sick of you nurses that flip out about MRSA, it's not the big of a deal!!" She was not nice or professional at all, this was in the hall at a loud tone. I kept thinking all day yesterday, "are you kidding, what part did I not understand about MRSA?"



Just out of curiosity, what part of MRSA epidemic does she not understand.  People can pick it up anywhere.  Anyway if both patients had MRSA of a wound, I understand it is ok to put them in the same room.  That would mean only one isolation room.  If she added to your patient load, I hope she took a patient from you but for some reason I doubt it.  Of course working with one MRSA patient, just think of how many chance you have of getting something on you and then transferring it to some one out side of the hospital, including your family. I wish people would learn that MRSA can kill you but for some reason a lot of people in the medical fields don't seem to give a darn.  Maybe if more nurses would flip out, some one would take notice and listen to what we are saying.


 

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My husband had surgery in CA and I expressed my concern about MRSA to his nurse. She told me to quit worrying, everyone has MRSA and it's no big deal. This blow my mind. I wonder the about the patients that lost limbs, that are hospitalized for months to gain control of the infection think that it's no big deal. My husband was in a room with someone that had MRSA, scarey! My husband did have a different RN and CNA than hit rm mate, but still.


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