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If you could choose only one thing about nursing and caring for patients, what would that be?I know there are alot of things i would like to improve,implement and change, but i am talking  the number one, top of your list.  My  number one would be always always have  enough staff to care for  for the acuity of our patients....

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This is a hard one to be sure......   I think I would have to agree with you on the staffing issue.....  For me it would be to lower the patient/nurse ratio and keep it enforced......   At this point they try to keep the nurses assignment even on the acuity level, however as we all know the acuity sometimes does not accurately reflect the amount of patient care needed.  Also a problem with making assignments according to the acuity is hard because then you are criss-crossing all over the floor to get to your patients...... most of the time this ends up being more work for the nurses then just taking care of the patients in a row regaurdless of acuity level..... 

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the lack of communication from upper management. Most of the  places that I know keep everything such a secret but, you are supposed to know what they want and when they want it. And shame on you if you don't.

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I would change the way that nurses have been devalued.   I watched a program once where they interviewed a consultant to hospitals on "cutting the fat" in healthcare;  and just what do you suppose he suggested the first cut needed to be?  That's right--staff nurses!!!  They feel that we are overpaid, and at our rate of pay, we should be able to handle a higher patient:nurse ratio.   And I also had a doctor tell me the other day that "they are setting up healthcare to be run by nurses now anyway."  (You can imagine the conversation that ensued). 


By the way, I also agree with the lack of communication from upper management.

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I'd say nurses being respectful of themselves as collegues and as a profession. One of the things I've noticed since moving from La. To Tx., is that nurses here seem to feel powerless against administration and don't demand the respect they have earned getting various degress and specializing. Ancillary depts are allowed to dump on nursing when they don't feel like doing their jobs. Techs and ward clerks think they can be insubordinate and again, when they don't feel like fulfiiling their duties, think the task should fall back on the nurse.Nurses don't seem to know how to demand accountability here and therefore get dumped on and are treated as insignifigant and replaceable in the eyes of administration. This is sad, and makes for a very frustrating career in nursing.


I keep trying to encourage my fellow nurses to unite and take control of this situation, but they don't seem to know how to do this. Also, we deal with backbiting amongst ourselves and let egos get in the way of helping each other and empowering ourselves as a profession. I've had charge nurses purposely dump on me as a contract nurse b/c they assumed my pay was way higher than staff. They felt it was their duty to make me earn that supposedly astronomical salary by overwhelming me and giving me the most challenging and critical pts. I finally confronted these nurses and as unprofessional as it was, shared my pay scale. This changed their tune, but by then I was burnt out and disillusioned.


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I agree. I think that since nurses are the largest and most respected subculture in health care we have the power to change the system. I think that if nurses all over our country came together we could change the system.  Like making sure that everyone in the US had affordable health insurance. So I think that nursing in general should band together and advocate change. But I'm not sure how it will happen. Any ideas out there?

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Pezzy- I definitely agree with you. My number one issue to take on would be staff acuity or patient/nurse ratio (and when you have the right to refuse an admit). This is the single-most daunting issue for me with regard to entering into the nursing profession. Being overloaded is one thing, but being overloaded when people's lives depend on you is very frighteningly another.


AmyAJ- Boy, I agree with you too! We are such a large group that we truly can make a difference if we join together. (Maybe overworking us is a conspiracy to keep us in a place where we don't have enough time or energy to advocate for change? Hmmmm...)

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More time with patients. I guess that could be done if we had more staff and fewer patients.

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I would definitely say the patient/nurse ratio is my biggest issue.  It is really scary trying to take care of 8 patients and the acuity of them is almost more than you can handle. Where I worked we had a certain group of rooms we took, it didn't matter what the acuity was. But I think to keep the nurses assignments on an even acuity would be almost impossible. If my rooms were scattered out all over the place, I would be sure to neglect one patient entirely. Of course not on purpose.


Also lack of communitcation between staff and upper management. Our nurse manger didn't have a clue as to what was going out on the floor. As a third shift nurse we never never saw her with the exception of our monthly staff meetings.

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Silly question but is there a nurses union?

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Some hospitals and states have unions, not all. There is no national nursing union , only  the state board of nursing which represents each state.

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Dear fellow nurses,


I have read your comments about patient-nurse ration & lack of communication with upper management.


Right now I am not practicing nursing because I am home taking care of my children & believe it or not I save money staying home.


I do many hands on activities myself at home.


My complaint is about 2 things: Nurses are the most hardworking people I know & we should get paid more than 65,000 a year.


Sure theres a nursing shortage, nurses come home with little pay after taxes. The salary just doesn't meet the cost of living today!


Just look at the gas prices!  Nurses should be making 85,000 yearly.


Also,  physicians mistreat us & verbally abuse nurses. Don't they realize that nurses sacrifice their lives everyday! Nurses  come home to their families & are exhausted from standing all day with only a 20 minute lunch break & barely anytime to go to the bathroom.


God bless all nurses,


Christine

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Another thing, I don't understand why when nurses call the Dr.; why do they apologize for paging them?  Obviously there is a reason why they're paging them so what is the apology for?

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The single most important thing to change in nursing.........the application process, there should be criteria and tests taken to assure someone applying for nursing school should be a nurse

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I agree with dmazement-some people just DON'T need to be nurses

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The thing that I would change about nursing is that "Nurse's need to stick together". If we stuck togther and supported each other we would demand higher pay, demand better staffing and etc.. the things we could accomplish if we stuck together would be amazing. Unfortunetly, most nurses seem to be scared to speak up, scared to have an opinion, scared to say enough is enough. Since nursing is primarily women I do not think most women know how to stick up for themselves. I also have noticed that a lot of nurses are the bread winners, or single mothers and are afraid of losing their jobs. I am not talking about management here, I am talking about the bedside nurse. Management is really not your friend so do not be decieved. I have worked on both sides and management is about the bottom line. They have a fuction, but it is no longer about providing care, it is about saving money and or passing Joint Commission. Have you ever noticed that when Joint Commision comes you always have the staff you need. Also, managment just keeps piling on the responsibilites and doesn't care who suffers. If they did they would understand.


I have been a nurse for 17 years and have considered leaving the profession many times. We just need to band together and stop all the abuse. I have thought about it many times and I can tell you RIGHT NOW, that men WOULD NOT put up with what we have put up with. I think we need to organize a protest in Washington. We need to rally and it will take us all. The reason there is a nursing shortage is not just because of the baby boomers getting older and nurses retiring, it is because women can make more money doing so many other things, get more respect and have great working enviroments. Plus most nurses leave the profession within 7-10 years and why do you think that is. Well it isn't because it is such a great career that is for sure...Come on lets get honest.


I am so sick of hearing about teachers and health care reform, but nothing about the disaster that is about to take place in the near future when there are not enough nurses to do the job, YOU THINK IT IS BAD NOW, well just wait. We need to get it together now.


Anyone out there willing to get a protest together to call attention to this problemin Washington? Our nurses in the political arena just aren't doing it. Again, probably very few of them have ever been bedside nurses. Not to mention the fact that they think the answer is more nursing schools and more recrutiment. Come on that is not the only answer. We need to do something so the great nurses we have now will want to stay in the profesion and not leave..


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It's not only about the medical acuity of patients.  It should also include the emotional and mental.  Employers are always going to staff at the minimum per state and fed. guidelines.  That is where the change has to come from.  I have been in nursing 26 years and no amount of standing together will change staffing until the regs. change.

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WandaD says ...



the lack of communication from upper management. Most of the  places that I know keep everything such a secret but, you are supposed to know what they want and when they want it. And shame on you if you don't.



Amen! They give you just enough rope to hang yourself!!

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JUDLEERN had some good points in her post! I have only been a nurse for 7 years, but can see what she is talking about. Not sure what the answers are, but the facts are clear: more nurses leave the career every than new ones join. A great nurse I work with recently quit to go work in factory for less money. The last straw for her was being mandated 3 days straight. That's 3 double shifts in a row, and she has teenagers at home.


Before I was a nurse, I made good money working in computers. So it isn't about the money for me. But, I can't blame anybody for shopping their degree around. There are easier ways to make a living. Nurses and cops are in the same boat, in terms of the sacrifices we are asked to make. We pay the price for the privelege of being a nurse.


California has union nurses, and a friend of mine is happy with her situation there. No more than a 5:1 patient-nurse ratio, no mandated overtime. We need that on a national level.


Meanwhile, stick together. Look out for each other on the job. Get through the day and get home to your family.


peace


Walter

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I have only been a nurse for a few years, but I totally agree with all posts I read; nursing shortage I believe is a direct result of how nurses are treated by management and each other.  There are probably lots of nurses out there,  but after getting a taste of how it is to work as a nurse, they probably decidd it wasn't worth it,. I also agree that we need laws  for nurse/patient ratio like Calif. ; strict laws.  If they only have laws that say they can staff for acuity, the management will get around it somehow, because we all know as one other post said, the bottom line is what is important to management and of couse their own pocket books.  So..how do we get organized?  I know the nurses that I work with probably would not join because of fear of loosing their jobs.


Another thing I believe is that there would be change, if only the public was aware of what really goes on.  You would think that they would get the word either from being in a hospital themselves or having a loved one there but somehow it seems that once the patient is no longer in house, they forget how it was.  In the organization I work, I have heard of people trying to call the local "investagating reporters" at local TV stations to try and get some information out to the public, but the news stations will not touch it.  They can't get into the door of the facility unless they have permission and we all know that the only publicity that the facility will allow is positive.  So.. how can it be done?  I tell my friends about my experiences, but in reality if anything was able to get back to my employer that I said anthing negative about them, I could be fired because of it; it's in the hiring agreement.

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NURSES SHOULD DEFINETLY STICK TOGETHER. DOCTORS CERTAINLY DO. THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM PROTECTING THEIR OWN ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE INCOMPETENT COLLEAGUES THEY LOOK THE OTHER WAY. PERHAPS IT'S THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF NURSES ARE WOMEN .WE ARE VERY JUDGEMENTAL AND CRITICAL OF EACH OTHERS ABILITY AS MOTHERS AS WELL .  AS WOMEN AND AS NURSES WE SHOULD BE MORE UNDERSTANDING AND SUPPORTIVE OF ONE ANOTHER. FEWER WOMEN ARE GOING INTO NURSING. NO SURPRISE IN THAT FACT .  IT'S THE LEAST RESPECTED PROFESSION BY THE PUBLIC TODAY.

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I agree with all the posts and just need to add a few things here.  I have been a nurse for 10 years now and have worked a variety of units at different skill levels.  I have learned to stand up to the physicians and have gained respect from most of them.  The one thing that bothers me is that nursing has very little autonomy.  In school, they talked about how nurses are gaining in autonomy.  Well lets see here my current employer has taken away smoking on their facility.  Yeah we all know that smoking is not good but, I feel as an American citizen I have that right.  Now I never get a break.  Even when I try to take a lunch break the phone is never off and they come get me to do things.  I have just recently stood up about the lack of experienced staff and am currently waiting to get into trouble for being negative.  It is funny how things you say or do can be construed as negative if it was just a question.  Now the facility is mandating set uniforms for nurses.  Come on now.  What does my uniform have to do with taking care of patient's.  Another problem is that, an echo tech or other ancillary staff make more money than me.  Especially if they have to come in on call.  As nurse we have liability's that we have to uphold,  we can loose everything in a matter of one bad move.  And yet we are not reimbursed for that responsibility.  Now lets look at the education aspect.  We can be a nurse with very little education. You can't be a lawyer with an associate degree so why or how is it that a nurse who saves lives daily can be thought of as a profession.   Yes nurses need to stand up for their rights but until there is a conformaty of beliefs and opinions I don't forsee anything changing.  It is very frustrating to me that we as nurse are viewed as replaceable.  I can't blame most for not standing up because it gets you no where except perhaps fired or forced into anger management because your comments were viewed as angry or negative.  As a profession we need to pursue or rights and encourage others to stand there ground.  Unions would that help I am not sure, but don't be caught talking about one.  My facility  I work at right now is a magnet facilty.  Most people have this assumption that magnet nurses are paid better and have better options that is not accurate.  We have no say in what happens.  We are told that administration says it has to be done.  So until there is unity among nurses I don't forsee a change anytime soon.  Pay us as a profession and perhaps there will be more educators and more chances for people to get into nursing school.  Look at staff nurses as professionals.  A lawyer, engineer, or any other professions would not tolerate what we have too and yet for years we have tolerated it and are losing our autonomy because of it.

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I agree hard thing.  Staffing would probably be number one but I think having equipment that always works would be nice or staff that always works- so now I am living in a fantasy world but why not that is what I wish for.

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I HAVE NOTICED THAT THE NURSES IN THIS BLOG ARE STILL NOT STICKING TOGETHER. ONE COMMENT IS THAT STICKING TOGETHER WILL NOT WORK, THAT THE REG'S NEED CHANGING. WELL HOW DO YOU THINK WE CAN GET THE REG'S CHANGED? WE HAVE TO STICK TOGETHER AND BE LOUD.


I HAVE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS, HOWEVER NO SOLUTIONS. COME ON WE NEED TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS, AND I DO NOT THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A UNION TO SPEAK UP IN WASHINGTON. WRITE YOUR SENATOR. HAVE YOUR PEERS WRITE. SPREAD THE WORD. SPEAK UP, SPEAK UP.  YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DO THIS AT WORK AND YOU CAN PROBABLY REMAIN ANNONYMOUS, BUT JUST DO NOT GIVE UP AND GIVE IN. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THE FEAR OF LOSING A JOB, BUT THAT IS EXACTLY WHERE MANAGEMENT WANTS US TO STAY, AFRAID. WRITE YOU NEWSPAPERS. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CRITIZE ANY SPECIFIC HOSPITAL JUST THE PROBLEMS WITHIN THE NURSING PROFESSION AND HOW THE REASON THERE IS A SHORTAGE IS NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF BABYBOOMERS, OR RETIRING NURSES, BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THE REASONS WE HAVE MENTIONED.


ANYOTHER SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE GREAT.


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STAFFING of course.  there are NEVER enough nurses or CNA's to care for the patients' like they need. 


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 JUDLEERN is absolute ly right on... I have been a nurse for over 20 years.   Women do not stick up for themselves.   We have always been told to follow, not lead and the Dr. is the "most important"    Sorry.  WE ALL play an important part.   


 


 Check out www.nursingadvocacy.org           also    www.aacn.nche.edu


I am working on my final project for an English Comp class..it just so happens I picked the nursing shortage.  

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neongirl, thanks for the great web sites. Good luck with school, Glad you are still interested after 20 years. I have been a RN for 20 years as well and must say that I really have no desire to further my education in nursing. That may change someday, but for now I just want to slide in, do my job and slid out. Trying to unite nurses and try and get them to see their worth has been absolutely exhausting and so overwhemlingly frustrating. I end up just like everyone else, just put up and shut up. Sad, but true. I love patient care and my passion has always been bedside nursing. I just am very worried about the future of our country with the shortage of nursing and the denial about the real cause's.


Get this, they are talking about a nurse's shortage, however where I work they are now checking cenus every TWO hours and sending people home, you know based on acutity RIGHT? WRONG, based on the number of patients. I love it because most the time I would love to go home, but there are so many people upset about this, and rightfully so. They do not want to use there vacation on a few hours here and a few hours there, and they need the money, SO WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO?  I know it makes business sense, but does it make business sence when you have to train new people because people become disgrunteled and leave? Or worse, leave the profession. Again we are back to why we have a SHORTAGE.....


Let me ask all you smart women out there, why and the HELL do we bother with that extra duty of filling out acuity when it doesn't make a DAMN bit of difference. I have been a RN for 20 years and have been filling out those damn acutiy's and staffing has NEVER, and I mean NEVER changed. Can someone out there in Acutiy land tell me why the Hell must we do this???????????My answer is we do acuity not to have more staff, but where management can justify having less.... Again, I do not care what they tell you, acuity isn't so they can justify having MORE STAFF, it is to justify having LESS...


 


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I would definitely change the way that Nurses treat one another, and how the "old guard" treats the new grads that start on their first assignments after nursing school.  It's no wonder we have a nursing shortage with the attitude that nursing has.  The "Eat Your Young" mentality and the lack of empathy and help given  the others is really sad.  Even though I have been a nurse for almost 30 years, I will never forget that first year after nursing school,  it was the most horrible, sad, despondent, and scary year of my life.  It wasn't the patient load that I feared, it was my colleagues I had to face each and everyday!


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Staffing ratios, to include CNAs and nurses......There doesn't seem to be enough time in the day to properly care for patients. I work with Alzheimer patients and we are putting them at risk for falls and skin breakdown due to the staffing ratios.


One of my clinical instructors criticized me for spending too much time with each patient. She said that in the "real world" of nursing, that's not possible. When she said that, I thought she was being kind of rude and uncaring. Unfortunately, I see that happening often. It's a sad situation.

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The easy answer is staffing but I just feel our society needs to get passed that idea 'cause the population is continually growing so I do not see this as a real fixable issue.  Why not our research and the process of finding the cures.  If the drugs were affordable or even known then maybe the acuity would be less and the stays shorter?  Communication is a human error and again realistically not fixable because it's a tool not a controlled substance.   Each of us are rotten at it every day one way or another and yet we can still be superb at it all in the same day.  Find the cures or causes or tx's in a better, more efficient way that get's to the public quicker.  So for changing nursing, I vote for changing how we take care of each other.

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