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I personally would prefer information from an entity that is neither in support of nor against either candidate so I'm not so confident in the anti-obama blog you cited.  But that's just me.  Some might appreciate opinions like that though. 


I believe it's crucial that, regardless of where we get our information, we should be well informed on the facts before voting.....no matter which candidate the facts have shown to favor.  I'm going to stick with what the New England Journal of Medicine has to say overall.  I respect their analysis.


 


~ Melissa

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I agree with btully,abednigo and teamrn......


I worked in TN..A state that has TNCARE....The average patient had Tncare coverage,was a FF( frequent flyer) and could care less what it cost or didnt cost becasue their insurance was FREE....NOw granted some paid premiums under this plan ...However the ones who paid a premium werent the ones coming back day after day with a new illness or gripe.


Also we had more than our share of illegal aliens receiving free care...mostly BABIES..which is great!!!..they should be immunized but everyday I watched as more and more pregnant illegal alines walked through the door and we had to give them service and they didnt know English and we had to use a phone with an interpreter to find out what they needed and so  on and so  on...


I did take Spanish just so I could converse with these people...The first thing I told them was to go to a class to learn English!


I would like to see more states develop a healthcare plan but I dont beleive ANYTHING should be free for anyone who is capable of working..and if they cant find a job then get thier hours through community service and volunteering.


TNCARE reformed some things and I am proud of them for doing it...They no longer pay for Benzos and Pain meds...BRAVO!!


They also have a preferred drug list and if you dont like that then you can buy the 4 dollar one at walmart..or wait to get a reply for weeks to get a pre-approval...


They dont pay for over the counter drugs..BRAVO!


except for special circumstances....


They only allow 5 prescriptions per month....except for special circumstances....


They have also started limiting office visits and if you go to the ER..if its NOT an emergency ..well you can be prepared to wait and wait...


BRAVO!!


I think a sliding scale would be great.....but what do I know.....


 


 


speak your mind..for those that matter dont mind and those that mind ..dont matter..

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frumpster65 says ...



I agree with btully,abednigo and teamrn......


I think a sliding scale would be great.....but what do I know.....


 


You undersell yourself; you know your opinions and why you believe them. Personally, I believe that a flat percentage (like coverage: 80/20%) is fine, but it needs to be uniform. Uniform, uniform, uniform; so there can be no fingers of 'favoritism' cast. If someone has Tri-care for insurance and is only entitled to 5 scripts a month, unless medically indicated; there's a reason for it and we need to abide by it;  unless it has been judged to be inhumane.


Frumpster, you like a sliding scale, so stick to your guns.


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The New England Journal of Medicine has articles with many different views, another article states the following


'The Obama plan offers a host of policy proposals that, in themain, address the symptoms but not the underlying disease thatafflicts the health care system. We surely could use some symptomaticrelief. However, failing to address the perverse incentivesthat drive health care spending inexorably upward, making insuranceunaffordable for millions and shaping (or misshaping) the practiceof medicine, will leave us worse off than we are today '


So this article states Obama's plan will leave us worse off...


It further goes on to say


"Although the campaign rhetoric is unclear, one is left withthe impression that the national health plan would be similarto the typical plan offered under the Federal Employees HealthBenefits Program (FEHBP). That means a pricey plan. The BlueCross–Blue Shield standard plan that is popular with federalworkers offers good coverage for about $12,000 a year. Lessexpensive plans exist, but they typically require high deductiblesand substantial copayments."


$12,000 a year (who can afford that)


http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/16/1648    The New England Journal of Medicine's Article on Obama's plan Published October 16, 2008


 

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Kittyrn says ...



The New England Journal of Medicine has articles with many different views, another article states the following


'The Obama plan offers a host of policy proposals that, in themain, address the symptoms but not the underlying disease thatafflicts the health care system. We surely could use some symptomaticrelief. However, failing to address the perverse incentivesthat drive health care spending inexorably upward, making insuranceunaffordable for millions and shaping (or misshaping) the practiceof medicine, will leave us worse off than we are today '


So this article states Obama's plan will leave us worse off...


It further goes on to say


"Although the campaign rhetoric is unclear, one is left withthe impression that the national health plan would be similarto the typical plan offered under the Federal Employees HealthBenefits Program (FEHBP). That means a pricey plan. The BlueCross–Blue Shield standard plan that is popular with federalworkers offers good coverage for about $12,000 a year. Lessexpensive plans exist, but they typically require high deductiblesand substantial copayments."


$12,000 a year (who can afford that)


http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/16/1648    The New England Journal of Medicine's Article on Obama's plan Published October 16, 2008


 



You are right.......MANY different views and MANY different ways of looking at each candidates proprosals.  Which, leaves one to analyze the information presented based on their own values....it's neutral and unbiased.   They have strengths and weaknesses presented for both candidates proposals.  I hope that everyone will make a well-rounded decision based on ALL the information presented by NEJM.


~ Melissa