to shrklpn:  Man, if you're scared of peoples posts online, you're in for a rude awakening in nursing school.  Like I said before, I do not care if I spell totally right online, or use punctuation.  I am not looking for a job and this is my offtime.  Honestly, if you check the Obama/Biden threads, you might be happier.  There are alot of really smart nurses on nursing link and you can learn from them.........there's some of the smartest nurses I've had the pleasure of corresponding with in that thread as well.  If your feelings are hurt, I am sorry.  One thing you can do is lighten up and not take anything personally, if's offtime for alot of us.  I have a job that I love and its stressful at times.  If there was no stress involved with my employment, Id get bored and probably quit.   I use the word 'crap' alot along with other terminology that is socially unacceptable and have publicly admitted I am a bitch.  I dont know if Obama is the Antichrist, only God knows that.   I am a Christian and I know I'm not perfect. If you want to go to RN school and graduate, dont let people like me change your mind.  There is such a shortage of nurses and you might even end up being one of those RN"s who's miserable unless she's running around with her hair on fire.  Good luck, dont vent at work, vent to friends.  Personally I like venting on here, and I've not been a member all that long.  If you do want to quit school, to me, it means your heart wasn't in it anyhow.  Good luck and perk up.  I have more stuff to post that will make you real angry soon I think.  My husband emailed me sumpin else!  As smart and brilliant as he is, who knows, he might send me a crappy email this time so dont hold your breath too long.

angienwgeorgia says ...

 

"For the last several days I have tried to leave off mouthing off my dislike of the Obama/Biden ticket out of respect for friends that I have who support that ticket"
 
I am finding that I sort of miquoted myself......I am not posting in the Obama/Biden thread <btw, I do have respect for Biden, he could be great>.  However, I got some really interesting info today.   Thing is, my husband sent me an email with info from Chicago stats.  There are also a couple of links for quote checking at the bottom.  On the bottom link........look at the one about Obama's trip to Germany!  I do not have proof the authors of the link are telling the truth any more than than any other reporter but looks very interesting nontheless.
 
Subject: Chicago

Pull out of Iraq!

Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?

Body count: In the last six months:  

292 killed (murdered) in Chicago;

221 killed in Iraq.

Chicago... Who Runs it:

 
 
 
Senators: Barack Obama & Dick Durbin

Rep: Jesse Jackson Jr.,

Illinois Gov: Rod Blogojevich,

Illinois House leader Mike Madigan,

Illinois Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike),

Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)

.....our leadership in Illinois.....all Democrats.

Thank you for the combat zone in Chicago.  

Of course, they're all blaming each other!

Can't blame Republicans; they're aren't any!

State pension fund $44 Billion in debt, worst in country.

Cook County (Chicago) sales tax 10.25% highest in country. (Look 'em up if you want).

Chicago school system rated one of the worst in the country.

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois. And he's gonna 'fix' Washington politics for us!

Wake Up America! 

 
All of the above are so true and one reaso I'm not voting for Senator Obama, even though I'm from Illinois.
 But I'd suggest we continue this discussion on another post, as this is NO longer a discussion about whether Palin was a good (whoops, I meant great!) VP pick for McCain. Let's see, what can I name a new thread? How about just plain McCain versus Obama? Strengths and weaknesses.

 

Subject: Chicago


Pull out of Iraq!


Perhaps the U.S. should pull out of Chicago?


Body count: In the last six months:  


292 killed (murdered) in Chicago;


221 killed in Iraq.


Chicago... Who Runs it:

And your point is? Are you trying to say that the bad old terrorist Barrack Hussein Obama killed these people in Chicago or that he is in some way responsible for it?  

Kittyrn says ...

irishgirl, youtube video is full of errors.  He has not been a US senator for 4 years, 2 and than he ran for president.  He is considered exotic, because 1. He lived in Indonesia as a child, 2 He had dual citizenship until he was 21 (since kenya was a british colony, and his father was a Native Kenyon, he by birthright had dual citzenship) 3. He did attend a Muslim school in a Indonesia, even if it was for only 2 years.  NOT BECAUSE he was born in Hawaii, and lived in Hawaii. If that's the case, than my son is 'exotic'  because he was born in Hawaii (somehow, that's never been an issue)  I had to stop watching it, because it was so erroneous.  Research your facts.  Yes, he was the first 'black' on the Harvard Law review, but Sarah Palin was the first woman governor or Alaska.  I think the latter trumps the former if we're going that route. 

Geesh...as if I hadn't reviewed anything before but thanks for assuming that I had not. I won't sit here and argue with you and assume you hadn't researched anything either. I mean...you know what they say about assuming...

Anyway, here are some facts:

Obama

Obama was born in Hawaii and named after his father, who he only met once in his life after his fathers seperation from his mother. While living in Indonesia he attended local schools. Then he moved back to Hawaii. After graduation he studied Political Science at Occidental College in California. The he transferred to Columbia and majored in Political Science with specialization in International Relations. Afterwards he became a community organizer in Chicago. There he  worked there for three years from June 1985 to May 1988. During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from one to thirteen and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization. Then he went on to college at Harvard where he was elected president of the law review. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago for 12 years. He was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, 1998, and 2002. In January 2003, he became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee. He then became a US Senator in 2005. In 2007 he decided to run for president. 

Michelle

Graduated from Princeton University and Harvard Law School.

Palin 

Palin was born in Idaho and moved to Alaska with her family when she was an infant.  Palin attended several colleges and universities. In 1982, she enrolled at Hawaii Pacific College but left after her first semester. She transferred to North Idaho community college, where she spent two semesters as a general studies major. From there, she transferred to the University of Idaho for two semesters. She then attended Matanuska-Susitnaa community college in Alaska for one term. The next year she returned to the University of Idaho where she spent three semesters completing her Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism, graduating in 1987. She then worked as a sports reporter and helped her husbands fishing company. She was elected to the Wasilla city council in 92 and 95. She was the mayor of Wasilla from 96-02. In 2006 she became the Alaska Governor. She became the VP pick in 2008. 

So here, just in education alone Obama has her by a landslide. She specialized in journalism and he specialized in political science. 

Todd Palin

Does not have a college degree and did not register to vote until 1989 so those were facts in the Utube piece. He also works for BP.  

Obama never had dual citizenship because Kenya still does not recognize it.  He attended a school in Indonesia which had muslim influence but also attended 2 years in a private catholic school.

Factcheck.org stated the following, so yes, Obama did indeed have dual citizenship between the U.S. and Kenya, until his 21st birthday.

"As a citizen of the UKC who was born in Kenya, Obama's father automatically received Kenyan citizenship via subsection (1). So given that Obama qualified for citizen of the UKC status at birth and given that Obama's father became a Kenyan citizen via subsection (1), it follows that Obama did in fact have Kenyan citizenship after 1963. So The Rocky Mountain News was at least partially correct. But the paper failed to note that the Kenyan Constitution prohibits dual citizenship for adults. Kenya recognizes dual citizenship for children, but Kenya's Constitution specifies that at age 21, Kenyan citizens who possesses citizenship in more than one country automatically lose their Kenyan citizenship unless they formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982. "

Agreed, but when you factor in

Obama's dual citizenship to age 21, with the following

1. Visits to Kenya,  he wrote 4 chapters on Kenya in his book.  It was a 3 part book, part 1 Origin part 2 Chicago, part 3 Kenya

2.  Attended a church that placed a dedication to Africa, Rev Wright 'god damn america'

3. When he had family troubles as a teen, the first person he turned to was a friend named "Frank Davis", A card carrying Communist.

4.  In College he attended a Stokely Carmichael rally  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stokely_Carmichael  this was former honorary head of the black panther party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party

5.  Association with Bill Ayers (bombed Pentagon, killing americans) stated in 2001, that he wished he'd done more...

6 Saul Alinsky a man who encouraged socialism influenced Obama, the following  is copied from Wikipedia, see my earlier post with links, 

"Alinsky's teachings influenced Barack Obama in his early career as a community organizer on the far South Side of Chicago.[8][10] Working for Gerald Kellman's Developing Communities Project, Obama learned and taught Alinsky's methods for community organizer"

"Alinsky was a critic of mainstream Liberalism, which he considered passive and ineffective.  In Rules for Radicals, he argued that the most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired ends, and that in intermediate end for radicals should be democracy, because of its relative ease to work within to achieve ends of social justice.  "

It is getting old.

iluvnrsing says ...

 

Angiewgeorgia: You are a mean and despicable person. Here we have a young person on here who is not afraid of posts but afraid of the mean sprit she sees on here and you are making fun of her and trying to chase her away from nursing. You are one of those self righteous Bible thumping jerks who can’t see past the end of your nose. She posted here for reasons you will never understand. You are to be pitied.

I dont know many Bible thumping jerks who can truthfully call themself a bitch, which I do admit to being.  I do hope the nurse in question honestly accepted my apology for hurting her feelings and I do wish her good luck.  By the way, thank you for your pity, I will consider that a gift!  I do prefer the giftcards from Starbucks, but beggers cant be choosers, right?  I am a Christian but far from being perfect! 

IrishgyrlL"

So here, just in education alone Obama has her by a landslide. She specialized in journalism and he specialized in political science. 

Todd Palin: Does not have a college degree and did not register to vote until 1989 so those were facts in the Utube piece. He also works for BP

Since when are we comparing education of a presidential candidate to the education of a vice-presidential candidate. Let's compare apples to apples. Todd Palin can be left out of this equation, anyway. Anyway, it's WHAT YOU DO with your education that really matters and that's really important.

Percy,

So what if Jesus was a liberal? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China and how are we ever to know his politics? More to the point, though, "So I'll ask you - as basic as I can. Spelling it out in little words and drawing pictures if absolutely freakin' necessary. Do you want to put another GD "C" student in the white house? Are you absolutely positive? Even when you have the chance to put an honest to God "A" student in that role? The first black President of the Harvard Law Review? Seriously? All because he went to a black church that talked bad about white folks who were in power?"

Just as I said on this or another post when talking about candidate's education: When does education qualitfy someone for this office? Sure, it qualifies one for a position as an RN, but since when is education the only factor? Surely, your equation has a variable (do you remember ever hearing that word?) for experience.

My judgement that Baarack Obama isn't the best qualified for the office he seeks has NOTHING to do with his color or the  fact that he went to a church where white folks were talked bad of.

My decision is based on BO's incredibly left-wing liberal policys that would lead us one more step in the direction of a socialist country, something our forefathers fought AGAINST. I disagree with his policy on the economy and  health care the most, but his liberalism is a big factor too. i believe in a small government, that only does for you and me, things that we can't do for ourselves.

Obama believes in a big government that tries to do EVERYTHING for EVERYBODY: the only way they can do that is to raise taxes and in this economy, you don't do that. Tell me, do you like tax hikes and taxes in general, especially those aimed at  "sharing the wealth?"

Thanks prettykitty, I could not have said it better myself . Anytime the media and Hollywood think they know anything about politics and who to vote for,is when I go the opposite way.

The media is so slanted to the left its not even funny. Watch any late-night shows...any of them and they persistantly hammer away at Mccain and Palin. I have yet to see a put-down joke made towards Obama/Biden. I mean Farrhakan called Obama the messiah. Oprah is calling him "The One". doesn't this creep anyone out just a little? They had clips of children singing Obama's praises. Last time that was done was when a certain furher rose in the ranks in Germany. Oh, the press loved Hitler too!

Before anyone gets crazy b/c of the comparison I just made, I'm just saying look at all his flaws as the other sides flaws are being constantly crammed down our throats. I mean, CNN acts like no-one has a right to question Obama's ties with Ayers. All is fair in love and politics, and no question except in regards to family should be off limits.

I don't see anyone getting upset when Palin's experience comes into question. Which I find amusing since Obama has none himself, and its already been decided he's more than capable, but Palin is questionable. Give me a break!

As for anyone really saving us, well the government is not the answer. They got us into this mess. Now we ask them to help what they screwed up in the first place. How ironic?

The American people will be the ones to get ourselves out of this. All government should do is protect us from outside harm and balance the budget.

I think Mc Cain well he is a walking stroke about to colapse, it would be very scary to have Palin as "it" if something does happen to him.  I think its unfortunate that he picked the wrong candidate.  I believe it was and is an act of serious desperation.  It's sad that republicans - no offense, rather spend money on war, foreign countries and waste our tax money in vacations like AIG company did, rather than to help America on our current issues such as healthcare.  It's sad that patients are reluctant to follow up or even show up to the doctors office because times are hard and they can hardly make ends meet.  I beleive Obama is the ultimate change that we definely need right now. 

I'm not praising him, because afterall he doesn't have much experience but he has a good plan in mind, I think anyone being more concerned because he is"black" or all these alliances that he might have had, well it doesn't matter.  I don't make $250,000 do u? let's all be realistic Palin and McCain are a joke. 

My husband and I voted early. We voted yesterday.