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| Posted over 4 years ago Its obvious that young voters forget the scandals & controversies that preceded the Clintons arrival to DC. As for Obama, its amazing that a once Christian nation has lost its bearings in turning itself over to the highest bidder. It was said in the 70's that the vote for President would eventually boil down to "who is the lesser of the 2 evils" as neither candidate was good. Now you have the special interests groups that are swayed by who will give us the most or those who are swayed by their emotions when someone gives a "chilling" speech. America stands in the way of Globalism. What better way than to see her implode and re-attach the pieces with the glue of empty promises fed to a Pablum society of future hedonistic leaders. C'mon nurses, where's the critical thinking, the objectivity that you developed in Nursing school? Keep growing, we haven't arrived, but we've left the station. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Percy: What a fantastic post. Yes, let's stop spreading ignorant lies. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I don't really care for either candidate. Obama scares the hell out of me, because I think he has the talent to get a crowd behind him shades of Hitler--I'd like to know specifics of his plans. Everything sounds good in the media, but the thought of "free health care for all", comes at a heavy price for middle class workers. McCain made a wise choice with Palin. She might seem like a throw back to the '50's, but she certainly can relate to middle class working families. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Percy... I'm a lifelong democrat, and I have only voted Repub for President once in almost 30 years! I did read Obama's book "Dreams of my Father". Obama has done nothing but lie from the starting gate. He states in his book, that he attended a Muslim school in Indonesia, but at the time I was reading his book, his PR people were coming out and stating "No, NO, he attended a Public school in Indonesia"..... so, I go back and look at the chapter I'm reading he states "I ATTENDED A MUSLIM SCHOOL". So, which one is the lie He voted to leave LIVEBORN BABIES die if they were born LIVE during an abortion. He did a lot of double talk, in the press denying this, but in the end after looking at the record he did vote this way. I'm pro choice, but it will be a cold day in hell when I let a baby die in a sink. CHICAGO, rife with political MISCONDUCT. He did nothing to change the political misconduct, he was no product of change. He couldn't change the politics of Chicago, in all his years there. As a matter of fact, he mentions that in his book. About how there was 'NO CRACKER, LIKE the cigar chomping Bull CONNOR to blame for it'. Isn't cracker a cute little term to refer to white people that you don't like? His religious associations with Rev Wright...he mentions wright all over his two books. Obama knew what the politics of Rev Wright were, he and Wright discussed it many times, remember Obama saying in the press "I could no more Deny him, than my own grandma". So I guess he can change something..... As a matter of fact, Obama mentions in his book attending a Stokely Carmichael aka Kwame Toure rally (former honorary head of the black panther party) while in college. Throw in there associations with Tony Rezko, and than the guy who bombed the pentagon William Ayers. Obama had financial gains with criminal associations.... Sorry, the left can spin it as they want it, but Obama is not qualified to be commander in chief. I kept my Democratic party affiliation, because I believe it's moderate democrats like me, that actually give the party a chance of being saved before it all goes to hell in a handbasket. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago chiefsrn says ...
You said it! What are the real issues here that we should be voting for? |
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| Posted over 4 years ago i agree with cdnurse. im offended that he's throwing us a metaphorical bone. I want the first women president to be one thats elected, not shoved in sideways as a political ploy... |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Issues 1. OIL/Energy.......McCain supports more nuclear, more drilling more everything....Obama supports???? Oh yea, he thinks the higher gas prices are good, that the only problem was it went up too fast. 2. Taxes......all think tanks that I have read and respect, say that taxes will go up, estimated 3% under McCain and OVER 5% under Obama, this is for middle America 3. Safety/Security/Terrorism, do I even need to go there, I think hands down, McCain has the Experience, knowledge, 22 years in the military, senate experience, house of representative experience, Obama 2 years Senate and community organizer???? Won't even acknowledge after visiting Iraq that the surge worked. Has mentioned going into Pakistan to get Osama...Does he know that Pakistan is a nuclear Power? That's not a happy thought. 4. Economy...see numbers1,2, , also number 3 There is no economy when your under terrorist attack, 5. Health Care, both have plans to reform health care, I have my doubts about both plans. I don't think a successful government correction of an OVERLY REGULATED healthcare system, that is already overburdened with paperwork, and approvals is going to work. Its going to take a lot more than a president to fix this system. It's going to take congress, senate, governors. Anyone that thinks that just the president can fix this broken system is living in LA LA land. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago First and foremost; he is 72..isn't he the oldest presidential candidate? And his choice for running mate..? Is he on something? Just because she is a women does that make us women want to vote for her? No, she is not Hillary or a substitute for her. If people are confident to vote for this man, what does that say about them? God forbid if he were elected and something happened to him where Sarah Palin had to run the country..our clinical team here is off to New Zealand!!!!!!!!! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago pjohnson: Wish I had said that. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Krislyn says ...
Just because he says it, doesn't mean it will happen. I agree the democrats did excellent on their speeches (espec. Hillary). However, i don't trust them... just sayin, don't vote for them just because you thought their public speaking was good:) |
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| Posted over 4 years ago cdnurse says ...
Are you kidding me????????????? SHe has cleaned up Alaska... read up on what she'd done there! She will win this campeign for McCain! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago squirmals says ...
"not looking out for herself"? Where do you come up with that? Just because she's ultra-conservative and rigid doesn't mean she is putting country before her self. Quite the contrary. I don't care if she is a woman or a man, it appears to me that her family needs her more than this country does. There are more right-wing wackos in this country than you can shake a stick out. If not Palin, certainly the conservatives can find another wonk. She is putting her own career ahead of her family's... I don't like that characteristic in fathers or mothers. And, from the looks of it, her family is screaming out for her to be a mother, not a vice-president. Because she didn't have an abortion when she discovered her own baby would be born with Down Syndrome is fine. But, believe it or not, thousands of women make the exact same decision every year - some of them are liberals, too! Protecting a woman's right to make the decision to have an abortion is NOT PRO-ABORTION! It is simply believing that women, for various well-thought out reasons (and some not so good reasons), may choose to have an abortion and they have the right to that decision, at least according to Roe v. Wade. I'll continue to fight for their rights regardless of the fact that I will never be faced with the decision! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago mommylyns says ...
Oh, are you talking about the firing of her soon-to-be ex-brother-in-law? Perhaps it isn't true, but it may be. And, considering all the secrecy and lies we have suffered through for 8 years, I don't think we can afford another V.P. with control issues... and, possibly, fabrication of the truth isses. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago "She is putting her own career ahead of her family's... I don't like that characteristic in fathers or mothers. And, from the looks of it, her family is screaming out for her to be a mother, not a vice-president."
So that's what it's coming down to? The far left supports a woman's decision to "not be a mother", by abortion, but will not support a woman's right to work and have a career in politics? Isn't that kinda backwards? |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Percy: AWESOME post...I agree 100%..and while living in west texas and having to stand up for my beliefs against all these george W lovers is tough...its nice to know i'm not the only one that feels this way.. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago mommylyns says ...
What she did for Alaska? What she did for Alaska is to support a group who wanted Alaska to secede from the United States and became its own country. Now, tell me, how patriotic and American is this?
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| Posted over 4 years ago I too, like many of you, had the same impression last Friday when they made the announcement/presentation on CNN. (*Are you kidding? - Do you think we're stupid?"). It seemed like McCain was smiling/smirking in the background as Ms. Palin was introduced on stage. I really got the impression that their party might be a little desperate after seeing this, and hoped that they don't (mistakenly) think this will make those that preferred Hillary vote GOP. (LOL) |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I loved Hilary, not because she busted the glass ceiling either. Obama is going to take this race, I hope. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Yeah - I think Hillary would've been great in the White House, and she would've been the type to persevere until things were the way they should be (ie - healthcare). AND - wouldn't it be great to have "Bill", (and Socks) and the whole clan back in the white house? |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I agree with Starlight RN, ABUSYRN2GO, and Kitty rn. I'm not impressed with Obama and his eloquent speech! Actions speech louder than words. I will be voting for McCain with his years of experience and I admire his VP pick, Gov Palin! Can't wait to hear her speech tonight! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago "What she did for Alaska? What she did for Alaska is to support a group who wanted Alaska to secede from the United States and became its own country. Now, tell me, how patriotic and American is this?" The national media has had to come forward and acknowledge that this is not true. In an interview with US mag., the editor stated they were in a hurry to get this to press. All the facts were not known, and it isn't true. Although, I'm sure the correction to this will be buried on page 60.
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| Posted over 4 years ago Kittyrn says ...
I can see where you are coming from, but I'm pretty sure you know that's not what I mean. There are many reasons why an abortion may be necessary. It is not my place to make that decision for any woman. And, oddly enough, I have female (and male) friends involved in politics. They even have children. It is possible to be a politician and a parent. As a single parent, I worked, too. I had no choice. But, being an everyday, run-of-the-mill politician is a far cry from being the V. P. of the United States of America. But, Sarah Palin has an infant with Down Syndrome and a pregnant 17-year-old daughter (in addition to 3 other children). Being a good mother is difficult enough but, you have to admit her family plate is exceedingly loaded, even by today's standards. Frankly, I can't imagine a mother with an infant child wanting to take on this country's problems at the expense of her own family. I think her infant is taking a back-seat to her own ego. If I had a daughter just born with Down Syndrome and a pregnant 17-year-old daughter, I'd have to say, "thanks, but no thanks; I have more important responsibilities at home." And, as far as the abortion issue is concerned, pragmatically, women of financial means will always find a way to have an abortion, legal or not. Outlawing abortions will only hurt the lower-middleclass (way below the $5M/year mark that McCain seems to think is normal) and poor women of this country. Sadly, they, too, will have abortions, legal or not. But, those abortions will likely involve the use of coat hangers and God only knows what other torturous devices. That's the reality of life and I am simply taking a pragmatic approach.
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| Posted over 4 years ago Would we be having this conversation if she was a man? |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Kittyrn says ...
No. that is the point |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Kittyrn says ...
I doubt that it will be burried. that is something the Right Wing Christian Groups woudl do. Her husband by the way was a member of that party wanting to pull out of the country from 1995 until 2002. Now, some one with all of the prosessed "family values" will not support her husband? |
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| Posted over 4 years ago By the way.... There are those of us who are shocked at McCain's V.P. choice but our outrage has nothing to do with her being a woman. I am insulted by any insinuation to that being the case. I have never suggested that the people who are opposed to Obama are racist, so I hope they will also give me the benefit of the doubt, as well. I will also add that, as I was canvassing door-to-door this past weekend, collecting information about voter choices (I live in a very conservative, Bible-belt area), there were quite a few McCain supporters who were not happy with his choice, either. Some even suggested they would rather not vote this year. So, despite the media love-fest with Sarah Palin, there are many Republicans who are not happy with how their ticket is looking this Fall. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Kittyrn says ...
Do you think it would be fair, then, to call the Christian Right hypocritical, then? Because, certainly, they prefer Traditional Family Values. Sarah Palin and her family are anything but traditional from the looks of it. Wouldn't a Traditional mother sacrifice her career for the sake of her child? Wouldn't a Traditional father continue working? I don't have any problem with the arrangement that Sarah Palin has made in her family. In fact, I applaud her! She's doing what millions of families across this country are doing. But, the Christian Right has been blasting those women for years and, now, all of a sudden, because she carries a rifle and didn't have an abortion, she's some champion of all things Christian? That's a load of hooey. I think she's wrong for this country and perhaps I will offend someone with this.... but, I do think that an underage pregnancy outside of marriage is a sign of problems at home. Yes, kids will be kids. But, that's a boundary most kids manage not to cross. You have to wonder why Sarah Palin's daughter decided to cross that boundary! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago LOL, I'm a democrat voting for McCain, BTW, I'm also a working Mom of five kids. I think anyone's kids, including comments on Barack's kids should be OFF LIMITS. If you have the resouces for babysitters, and a husband that can step in and be the primary caregiver, it's not anyone's business. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Rusty: Whoa! Wish that I had said that. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Well yes I do feel right wing Christians are hypocritical. Why? To many, condoned the shootings and deaths of physicians and nurses, at abortion clinics, but it's not right to have an abortion. Do you not think this isn't hypocritcal? I still do not understand why so many feel they have the right to deny choices, when it's absolutely none of their business. What Sarah Palin's daughter has done is make a choice. She chose to have premarital sex and to be pregnant and marrying at the ripe old age of 17. Is this a sign of something wrong within the family? I don't know, I'm not a part of the family. I could careless if this woman-child is pregnant, married or unmarried. I do not agree with Sarah Palin's politics either being Prolife or opening up the Anwar Reserve for the almighty oil companies and their profits. I want a president who will encourage or demand alternate fuel sources. I want a President who supports women and the right to choose. I want a President who gets us out of the war in Iraq. I want a President who will take responsibility for his/her actions and doesn't sound like an idiot. I want a President who will do their best to take care of the American people, all of them, not just certain groups and concentrates on America rather than the entire world before America. |

