kaye7 says ...

 cdnurse and iluvnrg you two are the meanest most evil people I have ever run across, you two seem to enjoy teaming up and attacking anyone that disagrees with you and you seem to attack in pairs are you guys married? No one was attacking that little smart mouth student you want to protect SHE has been mean to many on several other threads, you seem to just enjoy causing trouble. I have not been on here in weeks  because of you two and a few others of your posse always being so nasty to others how do you call yourself a professional anyways. This thread is to discuss Mc Cains VP pick since you are clearly NOT a supporter of him, go throw mud in a different thread you 2 are not welcome here. You can begin to attack me now, I could really care less. GO MC CAIN AND PALIN!

Actually the post was to allow anyone to voice their opinion on the VP pick. Which, in tune with the posts title I am not happy with the pick. If McCain wins I hope he is as healthy as he seems, I for one am not comfortable with her being commander in chief. It is kind of scary really. I don't know, as does no one else what the outcome will be of this election. But I pray that whoever the new prez is will have the courage and strenght to stand up for what he has originally promised and help America return to the country we all know and love. When we as Americans have to fear if we will be living in an alley in a cardboard box tommorrow because of greedy corporations and corupt govt. we should really be more concerned about that then the petty bickering going on here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether we agree or not. We will always run into people we disagree with. Whether it be pts. or the pts. family etc. So..... much love to you all. McCain supporters or Obama supporters. I am happy to know such a free spirited group of nurses. And I am Damn happy for all our sakes we have chosen a career with such wonderfull job security.

I hope this will answer the rumors that Sarah Palin banned books at a public library in Alaska:

The list of books she supposedly wanted to ban that’s being passed around isn’t real; among other things, it includes a number of books published after her time in office there.  For example:  Harry Potter books were not published while she was mayor. 

A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

Canterbury Tales by Chaucer

Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller

Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou

James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman

Lord of the Flies by William Golding
My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara

Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey

One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez

Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs

The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain

The Bastard by John Jakes

The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Color Purple by Alice Walker

The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck

The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare

To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare

Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff

TeamRN,
Thanks for the welcome. Well, you are correct, we do have different political views. I'm happy to see that someone else is interested in facts. I very much agree that if you get your information from reputable sources, you can decide what they mean for you. As long as people make informed decisions I don't have a problem. As for your question....When I want facts and only the facts, I look past newspapers, magazines and television. I looked for a non-partisan website where I could not only look up the candidates voting record but also read bills that were voted on in their entirety. It's easy to say "John McCain voted against this" or "Barack Obama voted against that". It's harder to dig deep to look up voting records and see why someone voted a certain way. Also, I agree with you that some press is "in the tank" for Obama....the same as I think some of the press is "in the tank" for McCain. That's exactly why I look past those sources for the truth. Kim

teamrn says ...

LPNurseKim says ...

I'm very new here (like 30 minutes!) and already something is compelling me to put in my 2 cents worth! I'll admit I didn't read all 22 pages of posts so maybe someone already mentioned this. It seems to me that if people want to make informed, intellegent decisions they would do some real investigation of facts. Real investigation does not include listening to and then believing all the promises OR mudslinging that has been going on. It also doesn't involve believing everything you hear from the media, and that involves Fox News and CNN. Snopes.com is a good resource for the BS that is forwarded so freely across the internet, regardless of truth. Votesmart.org is a website where you can look up voting records of anyone in public office. It scares the hell out of me that people are so uninformed when they cast their ballot! Obama/Biden '08

Welcome to our board, first of all!

LPN, even, though we don't agree politically, I agree with your premise that relying on media to "make up OUR minds" for us is a bit of laziness, sort of "I've made up my mind, don't confue me with the facts." If we get our facts from a repputable source and then WE decide what they mean for US.

I read newspapers to get facts, then look to Wikepeia and read a few other papers (both liberal and conservative. I do watch FOX, but I also balance with MSNBC; but what do  you do when the press is so obvioulsly 'in the tank' for  Baracck Obama?

McCain/Palin '08

From what I have read regarding Sarah Palin, she stands for everything I am diametrically opposed to as a mother, woman, and human being.

ckruszka says ...

I too am appalled at how everyone can just overlook Obama's chioce for an obvious racist American hating pastor and think he will do good for this country.Mccain would not have been my first pick either, but at least he served his country and shows open loyalty and love for America.

One poor association, even two and I can forgive and forget. But a stringful of radicals and hatemongers shows poor judgement to me. And the latest about this _____Khalidi. Not releasing the basis of their relationship (the tape) only leaves me guessing. If I were unecided, this alone would make me  think MORE THAN TWICE before voting for someone who seems to have a "Messian" complex.

McCain/Palin '08 MY FIRST CHOICE

 rusty I think you were a bit harsh on your stabs at her intelligence, all you know is what you have seen over the past few weeks and she HAS come up to speed very quickly, Obama has less experience than she does if we want to go down THAT road. BUT I DO agree with your point about why he picked HER, I was NOT in favor of her as a pick either, Condi Rice would have been a great choice although she may have been too close to Bush to be viable. But do I think he could have done a better job, but then I think Obamas choice of Biden was a mistake as well. so oh well we will ALL be stuck with which ever set of characters get voted in next week, God help us all, I say!

rusty97015 says ...

I'm still amazed at Sarah Palin's popularity.  Granted, her support seems to be amongst church women and men who wanna do her... but, its still amazing.  Despite her limited intelligence, people still consider her a viable candidate.  I'd laugh but this is serious business.  She's like a caricature of herself at this point.  And, if anyone ever criticizes her, all she has to do is attack rather than confront the reason why people are legitimately concerned about her abilities.

There are many women who would be great Republican V.P.s  Why didn't John McCain pick one?

rusty, what kind of proof do you have of Sarah Palin's 'limited intelligence.' "And, if anyone ever criticizes her, all she has to do is attack rather than confront the reason why people are legitimately concerned about her abilities.."  Rusty, maybe this is the way she prefers to defend herself against viscious attack. If I were attacked unjustly, it's posssible I'd attack you, than defend myself.

An example might be, and has been, her performance as a mother, that some how it is her fault that Bristol Palin is pregnant. It's  NONE of our business. NONE at ALL.

I could tell you I'm amazed that Joe Biden is held in such high regard but I'd think by now, you would know it if you've done  your research.

 I agree with you ckruszka every word. I guess I like the down to earth part of Sarah as well she seems like "one of us" and she probably is MORE like one of us than ANY other candidate, but many think that is a bad thing, but she has held her own in each debate, but will it be enough at this point in the game is the question, I do not think she HELPED Mc Cain in his bid for President like he had hoped and I think maybe it would be better if she did not have such a young child who clearly needs her at home, but it sounds as though her husband is Mr Mom, and dads at home can be just as good as a mom at home so THAT certainly should not be used against her, but I think the Obama supporter will use anything they can to drag her and Mc Cain down, only a few days left...

smoxignal says ...

I have stayed out of the political discussions because of they road they all seem to head down.  I'm glad to see that the discussion has returned to it's original topic at least the last couple fof posts.  Did we not have a discussion as to why nurses eat their young? 

I have my fellings about Sarah Palin, but I am inclined not to share them here.  Can we please delete all of this on Wednesday morning.  Healthy discussion is a good thing.  These are posts are just not healthy.  Would any of us feel healthy about these comments if they were being said face to face?  I feel terrible for the people who have just joined us, and see this all go on. 

I second that!!!!!!  Maybe it can be a way for all of us to cleanse our souls of all the bashing and hateful words......so we can start a fresh clean slate and move beyond what may have happened during the election!!!!  Might be cathartic!

I think McCains pick was smart politically. Since he is the most liberal repub, he was advised to pick a woman who was pro-life or he would never win Ohio.

I like her as far as personally, not that I know her, but she presents well, kind of like some accuse Obama of, however, I do not agree with most of her political ideas. I do, however, think she will run in 2012 if they lose and will probably do well. I like the fact that she wants to shake up Washington, but I do not agree with no sex education in the schools. Unfortunetly, that is the only place some kids will get it. Not every parent is as good a mother as she claims to be. I say claims, because I have no idea of what kind of a mother she is, so please do not read more into that then what I said.

 I agree with you Kitty that the polls are a lot closer than either side realizes, Obama just spent a truck load of money on a 30 minute info-mercial if he thought he had it beat by now he probably would not have spent all that money, or maybe he would have, it is someone else's money! Again this day for voting is almost upon us, then I agree that all of these political posts should be burned, and please NO ONE start a post on religion, good grief can't take it!

 That is a good idea Angie, I am voting early it is at our school our area is small so I hope we do not have a line,but who knows. Guess Ima waitin no matter what!

It is no surprise that the liberal media who are biased and have paid into the Obama campaign  looked stupid when they got the McCain pick wrong. Wrong because they were listening to people who had never held office or run for office, nothing but a bunch of people who read books. So, when Sarah Palin was picked they felt slighted. They had people following all the contenders, but the one their experts didn't figure on.

So, is spreading lies the method of retaliation that the liberal media has reduced itself to. Yes! They spread a stupid lie that the down syndrome baby was Bristols, purposely bringing her into this campaign. What if it were true? Does that have anything to do with the mother holding office. No!

Second, the "investigation" into whether there was an abuse of power of the governor to get rid of guy from his job is interesting. The charge comes from a guy who lost to Sarah Palin for office, and the person who was fired said she never told him to do anything.

But, here's the thing that the liberal media keeps purposely leaving out. Yes, it was a former brother in law, but he was also an abuser, alcoholic, had actually tazered his 7 year old stepson, and threatened to kill the ex-wife and her father in front of witnesses on more than one occassion. Unlike some people who just need to blow off some steam, this "wronged" individual was a trooper with a gun, and basically the Dept of Public Safety were acting like the LAPD in protecting one of their own, even though they knew he should not still be employed there because of the violent tendencies.

Third, when is it acceptable to go after underage private citizens? If the kid was a criminal of a major crime that would be one thing, but she got pregnant. And secondly, to pick on a special needs down syndrome 4 month old shows the liberal media as the scum of the earth who prefer gossip and half truths to the truth. They seem to feed off,  pop culture Britney Spears type stuff instead of dealing with the issues at hand. But then again, the media is only doing what it paid the Obama campaign to do, provide unfair, unbalanced, sexist, trash on any potential nominee that can steal his thunder.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20081104/Palin.Troopergate/

Palin cleared in troopergate.

nursemonica6 says ...

Kittyrn says ...

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20081104/Palin.Troopergate/

Palin cleared in troopergate.

I knew this would happen!  Great news!

I'm glad this did happen.  I still absolutely think Sarah Palin is a wonderful VP candidate.  Think of the role model she'll be for little girls in this country............that women can do anything we want to.  McCain and Palin might not win.........but look at how far women have come.....Hillary Clinton, Barbara Dole, Geraldine Ferrarro <I know spelling is wrong here probably>, scores of other women who made goals realistic, not fantasy for women in politics.  I've never been a 'FEMINIST'.............I guess there's more of that in me now than in the past.  Someone posted on another thread the pictures and an articles from when women FOUGHT for the right to vote.  Thank GOD for that...and thanks to the other women in this country who creates new goals for us all the time.  Rosa Park?  What if she moved off that seat in the bus?  What if Marie Curie made a martini instead of penicilian?  WE won no matter who is president.