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I just am amazed at how people are saying Palin has no experience, and yet Obama(who is running for president not VP) is being given such accolades. On another nursing blog site an obvious Obama supporter has posted all the things wrong with Palin and Mccain. I have asked her over and over to tell me what Obama has done in the years he's been a senator. She has yet to answer that question which I think I've asked at least 2-3 times. She keeps cutting and pasting all this negative stuff about the republican candidates. Both parties have had their share of corruption. As for ranting about Palin's inexperience, well if the Dems are going to do that, then they need to look at their own presidential candidate. They keep acting like McCain is going to drop dead tomorrow and Palin will be in charge. Hello! John McCains Mom is like 93 years old and still going strong. Obama smokes, for all we know he could be courting early health problems.



I agree.... I hate the fact that he smokes and he is likely courting early health problems.  Granted, he is trying to quit and we never see him smoking, despite the intense camera activity around him.  But, I feel fairly confident that he'll be around for 4 or 8 more years.  (By the way, apparently its common knowledge that Laura Bush smokes.... how did I miss that one?!)


Did anyone watch Indecision 2008 with Jon Stewart last night?  It was hilarious to see the double speak of the Republicans with regard to experience and women.  What the news needs to do more often is show old clips versus new clips of politicians speaking.  I think it was either Limbaugh or Rove that, months ago was talking negatively about a Democrat running for President (Keane?) from Virginia.  They man was the mayor of Richmond then became governor.  This Republican wonk disparaged the man because Richmond is such a "small" city and then only became governor of Virginia... stating explicitly that this did not qualify him to be President because of his lack of experience.  They also showed this same Republican applauding Palin for her strong experience as a mayor of a city of 9,000 and then governor of the largest state in the union (though, I might add, one of the least populated).  Double-speak.  You gotta love it.


 

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I don't see anyone bashing Biden for decisions he made, when he was faced with being a single father.  He could have well afforded to drop out of politics and care for his son's who were going through an extremely tough time.  He gets applause for soldiering on.  As well, anyone should.  Lets face it, anyone with teenagers, faces some kind of trauma.  I'm not going to fault anyone for working (weather it's politics or whatever) because their kids are having difficulty. If that's the case, their wouldn't be a woman alive, unless they didn't have kids that could even be in politics.   It's that 'drop out of life' mentality, that teaches kids it's OK to give up.  Many mothers are voluntarily joining the military.  That's the beauty of being an American Woman, we can choose what life we want to lead.  I don't judge someone for choosing an abortion, and I also don't judge someone because they choose to work when their kids are having problems.  I'm certainly not giving up everything I've worked for because one of my teenagers is having problems.  That's how they learn to handle things on their own.  Sarah's children are certainly not the first children to be in the spotlight.....half of Hollywood's kids are in trouble,(and in the spotlight) I don't see people saying well their mother shouldn't be an actress because it's putting their kids in the spotlight.    This is life and it's about freedom to make choices, including career choices. 



Thus far, I haven't heard of his sons (didn't he have a daughter, too?) getting anyone pregnant while underage and unmarried.  And, even if they did, at least their father isn't being hypocritical and bashing people for their apparent lack of Family Values.

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Nice rant Angel! 


Go get 'em. 


Wanna make a real difference in the world?  I just came across this site:


Girl Effect


Now that's one way to empower women. 


Putting an unqualified "pretty face" in the White House just because she has the right anatomy is NOT my idea of empowerment!

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Gore, Dukadas, and  Dole!   unsuccessful and dropped off of the face of the earth??????


When in the Hell did that happen?


 

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Rusty, you state that the far left wasn't wrong about Vietnam?


Under which president's were troops sent, and then additional troops sent there? Under whose presidency was the highest death rates in Vietnam? 


 


Gore Dukakis and Dole, all dropped off as far as presidential bids, and prime time politics.

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'Putting an unqualified "pretty face" in the White House just because she has the right anatomy is NOT my idea of empowerment!'


BINGO!  I assume your talking about Barack in the white house, because Sarah is running as VP!

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McCain is the oldest one. IF he is in the White House, he will be like Regan, walking down the halls and talking to pictures.

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Rusty, you state that the far left wasn't wrong about Vietnam?


Under which president's were troops sent, and then additional troops sent there? Under whose presidency was the highest death rates in Vietnam? 


 


Gore Dukakis and Dole, all dropped off as far as presidential bids, and prime time politics.



The far left has never been in control of the White House.  And, while the far left was probably smoking pot in the 60's, they were still correct in their assessment.


Eisenhower  was in the presidency (Nixon = V.P.) when troops were sent in, though the U.S. started sending in military advisors long before entering the war.  The French left in the early 50s and I think the U.S. sent troops in '58 or '59.  Its been a while since my undergrad years, though....


 

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What I said was not the oldest elected to the presidency, since terms are 4 years....


Ronald Reagan was born in 1911 and was elected to a second term in office in 1984, making him older than John McCain currently is.  John McCain is 72, and Reagan was a few months short of 74 when elected.


The most troops were sent into Vietnam under Kennedy, and Johnson (an 8 year period),  The most troops killed were under Johnson.

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McCain is the oldest one. IF he is in the White House, he will be like Regan, walking down the halls and talking to pictures.



ROFLMAO


 


Now that was funny... I'll modify that slightly by saying he is not only dinosaur-like in his thought processes, but also in his walk.  So, he'll be like Barney walking down the hallways and talking to pictures!

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'Putting an unqualified "pretty face" in the White House just because she has the right anatomy is NOT my idea of empowerment!'


BINGO!  I assume your talking about Barack in the white house, because Sarah is running as VP!



Since when is the V.P. not allowed to visit the White House?

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Gee if that's the case I can visit the White House too!


The VP's official office is the Eisenhower Executive Office Building.

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Gee if that's the case I can visit the White House too!


The VP's official office is the Eisenhower Executive Office Building.



If you guys don't think she'll be in the White House - McCain's not the picture of health - his VP is a heartbeat away from the Oval Office - that scares me.


From small town mayor to 1 term govenor to VP to President


No - I'm not talking about Obama!  At least he's played the National Game for more than a week.


Now, I'm bowing out of this discussion.


2 rules I've learned - to make & keep friends:



  1. Avoid flaming religious conversations

  2. Avoid flamind political conversations

Much respect to you all.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion.  I respectfully choose not to voice mine.  Keeps my bp down.


Nope, I'm not a chicken - just setting & honoring my boundaries.


Off to the gym where I was supposed to be anyway.

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Smoke is pouring out of my screen here. Need to see if I can cool it off with another topic for a minute or two.

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Nope, Regan was 69

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Al Gore has won both the Nobel Peace Prize and an Academy Award since " Falling off the face of the earth ".

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Ginny: Maybe he'll be lumbering down the halls talking to purple pictures. You crack me up. I am, however, glad to see some spell bigot correctly. I do believe that a small group of religious zealots are more dangerous than a platoon of fully armed soldiers. Very frightening, considering Jesus is usually not on their minds.


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DBM and laura: ROFLMAO

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:), this is all part of the great American drama every four years.  We should be debating this, this is what this country was founded on.  No smoke pouring out of my screen.  I LOVE IT!  This is why I served in the military, my father, my husband, my brother, my nephew, and my uncles.  I hope my children continue the tradition.  FREEDOM OF SPEECH!   Can't do this in China!  We are all entitled to our beliefs.  While we respect and don't judge our patients, that doesn't mean that off the clock we can't talk about our opinions.  When we lose freedom of speech, we will no longer have a democracy.  I believe my opinions, but I really don't judge any of your opinions, I just disagree.   This is the great american political drama in full swing.  No man is an island, opinions form,  and change with the times.


Reagan was born in 1911, he was elected to his second term in 1984, which made him almost 74....he was elected to his first term at age 69 a few months short of 70.  Since we elect presidents for 4 years and up to 2 terms, if elected John McCain will not be the oldest president elected.  He will however be the oldest elected to a first term.  Maybe Hillary will run in 4 years, and then I can vote democratic!

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try as hard as you want, he is an old fart and does not belong in the White House.

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I am afraid that he would forget where the most importan house is located.

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Since he's an old fart, he would find one of the houses provided he was down wind of it. The nose knows. In the winter, he can follow his own smoke signals.


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I think that McCain picked Sarah Palin, to get the women's vote, I am not sure that this was his strongest pick for VP. Although I don't know much about Sarah Palin as of yet, however what I do know doesn't seem to impressive. Her seventeen year old daughter is pregnant, it seems as though she wasn't spending enough time with her daughter. Do we really want someone who cannot even spend enough time with her daughter to prevent this sort of thing from happening, to be the VP of the US, how do we know she will devote herself to this. Palin, also,  twisted the facts last night in her acceptance speech, she twisted the facts about her leadership in Alaska as well as the facts as well as the facts about the opponent, Obama.


 


Clearly McCain picked Sarah Palin, to play off the fact that many women voted for Hillary Clinton simply because she was a woman. Does McCain seriously think that us women are that stupid? Honestly, I don't think that McCain is that intelligent. Does serving our country make you credible to lead our country? NO not really, we as citizens of the US respect real experience. No offense to anyone who supports McCain, I personally think that the man is psycho!


 

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But, he represents the middle class. Right.

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As a middle class person, I would be proud to have Senator John McCain as Commander in Chief.   It all comes down to the vote.

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I don't make enough money to be middle class.


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Most nurses don't.

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Originally I was only going to vote for Obama out of a Chicago obligation, and I am by no means one of those swooning liberal young people; but last night's speech made me dislike Ms. Palin so deeply that I am considering volunteering for his campaign. I don't like her repeated allegations that people from small towns are somehow more American than people from large cities. She reminded me of all the PTA mothers from my close-minded little hometown: smug, passive-aggressive, Bible-thumping and smarmy with a completely condescending "down-home small-town morality" schtick. Furthermore, most of those women in my hometown seemed to have retarded sons and slutty daughters, so I guess the whole package is there. (I'm sorry, that was completely uncalled for.)


Her irritating demeanor and rhetoric aside, I don't like her policy. I don't trust her statements that abortion should be illegal in ALL instances including rape and incest; and then claiming that she stands for "individual rights". I don't like her doublespeak on "standing up to special interests" and then advocating drilling in the Arctic Circle. I don't like her braggadocio concerning "slashing taxes" in a state that has no state OR income tax! She has admitted that she has "not been following" the Iraq War and seems to toe the party line with little independent thought or action. Although she touts "experience," governing a town of less than 10,000 people and one of the most sparsely populated states in the nation does not rank highly in my opinion. FYI lady: don't be talking about economic independence when you are the governor of a state whose government PAYS people to live there.


Women voted for Hillary Clinton because they liked her policy stances and her resolve in breaking "the highest glass ceiling." The only thing the two of them share is a Y chromosome; and although I would love more than anything to see a woman in the White House, she will NOT be receiving my vote.

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Rusty, you state that the far left wasn't wrong about Vietnam?


Under which president's were troops sent, and then additional troops sent there? Under whose presidency was the highest death rates in Vietnam? 


 


Gore Dukakis and Dole, all dropped off as far as presidential bids, and prime time politics.



The fact of the matter is this..........We would not have been in Vietnam if Republican DDEisenhower had not put us there in the first place.  Secondly Bob Dole is a Republican.  Michael Dukakis is a Professor of Political Science.  Al Gore..has become the spokesman for the environment winning an academy award, not to mention Nobel Peace Prize.  Apparently some don't care about the environment not to know this.

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You can spin it how you like, but the fact is that for 8 years in the 1960's troops were sent in record numbers under a draft under a democratic president.   The soldiers were put under 'white house' control.  Talk to anyone that was in Vietnam, and they had to get approval from Washington D.C. before anything was done.  That's one thing my brother wrote home to us about prior to his death in Vietnam in 1967.  The field generals/commanders were not allowed to thinkg for themself and make on the spot decisions.


I liked Al Gore, I voted for Al Gore, but the point still remains, he dropped off the political spectrum.  He may have won a Nobel Prize and an Acadamy Award, but he could have did more for this country if he'd been elected.  Nowhere did I say that Dole was a Democrat, please quote me where I said that.  Let me be clear, people that run for election and lose (in the general presidential election), have not historically come back to be President ever (or even VP for that matter).   If my memory serves me correct, the only one to do that in even remote recent history was Nixon. 


IMHO, Palin has at least as much relevent experience as Obama.  She's running for #2, and he's running for #1.   McCain still gets my vote.

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