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I don't have the time to read all of the posts on this seriously hot topic but here's my little soap box moment.


I find it hypocritical that McCain would chose Palin who is younger than Obama after the party went after Obama's age. It makes me feel like he assumes that some of us are so stupid that we chose things based soley on age like "wow, she's so young, she really understands me!" and not what words come out of their mouths.


I find it hypocritical that if you are a Democrat that you must be anti-family, anti-gun rights, blah...blah....blah.....when there are more Republican 'scandals' in the news everyday.


I find it hypocritical that the Republican party denies the rights of marriage to gay people even though our current VP's daughter is a lesbian.


I honestly do not believe that this womans daughter would be marrying this young boy if she wasn't on the GOP ticket. I refuse to judge this young girl as I was a teen mother myself, but something just doesn't sit right with me when it comes to this 'marriage.' I think it's all a show and now these kids are going to end up in divorce court just to add to the failure rate of marriage in this country.


I think McCain picked her because he thinks us woman are so simple minded that we are going to flock to the poles to vote in his favor, like somehow, we are controlled by our vaginas and have to support a woman regardless of whether or not we agree with her politics.


I have to question a woman who is, I'm sure as governor, financially stable, and went back to work just a couple of days after delivering a child w/ Downs Syndrome. Everyone want to give her kudos for having the child instead of an abortion, but is she really raising the child or the nanny? It makes me wonder, if she's in the White House, if the laws are going to change for women who have children. Are they going to be forced back before the already too short 6 weeks because "she could do it."

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irishgyrl: you said it all

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Hi All,


John McCain needs to go into a nursing home or something.  Lets face it  HE IS TO OLD!  And Palin makes me scared, bad choice. He is trying to get Hillory Clinton supporters. I was one and there is no way I would cast a vote for him or her.  She better go get the nursery ready for the new arrival.


 


 


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  Before I forget, think people we don't want 4 more years of Bush, and John McCain is indeed a Baby Bush.  Also we have lost over 4000


men and women. And for what? Osama bin laden is not in Iraq, he still lives. He took credit for 9-11, and he is still living in caves. Our men and women died for George Bush.  He needs to go find Osama his damn self.


Oh And Palin this scares the hell out of me. VP huh and if McCain should die of old age or something she would step in. OH my goodness! We would be in a world of trouble. NO WAY!!!!  I just cant imagine that.

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I'm not really impressed with either candidate, but I think that McCain is the lesser of 2 evils.


Obama is just too inexperienced. And like someone posted earlier (sorry I don't remember who it was), Obama has some Hiter undertones. That speech that he made in Berlin a couple of weeks ago just sent shivers up my spine.


BTW, Palin totally knocked it out of the park last night!!!!!

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Linda: very funny. Very true as well which makes it all very sad.

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You can spin it how you like, but the fact is that for 8 years in the 1960's troops were sent in record numbers under a draft under a democratic president.   The soldiers were put under 'white house' control.  Talk to anyone that was in Vietnam, and they had to get approval from Washington D.C. before anything was done.  That's one thing my brother wrote home to us about prior to his death in Vietnam in 1967.  The field generals/commanders were not allowed to thinkg for themself and make on the spot decisions.


I liked Al Gore, I voted for Al Gore, but the point still remains, he dropped off the political spectrum.  He may have won a Nobel Prize and an Acadamy Award, but he could have did more for this country if he'd been elected.  Nowhere did I say that Dole was a Democrat, please quote me where I said that.  Let me be clear, people that run for election and lose (in the general presidential election), have not historically come back to be President ever (or even VP for that matter).   If my memory serves me correct, the only one to do that in even remote recent history was Nixon. 


IMHO, Palin has at least as much relevent experience as Obama.  She's running for #2, and he's running for #1.   McCain still gets my vote.



Considering your family is part of the industrial-military complex, I wouldn't expect you to vote any differently.  Heck, most of my family will be voting for him, too.  I'm the son of a Major in the Marines and my brother designs defense systems for the military.  Fortunately, I have learned by being surrounded by a violence-directed military family how soul-destroying the military can be.  And, yes, I do believe in a strong military but not at the expense of diplomacy.


I also know that there isn't a Republican politician that gives one damn about me.  They don't care one iota about any citizen, only their own egotistical "destroy government, cut taxes" mantra.  Perhaps people don't like Obama and the Democrats, but you can't tell me they don't care about people.... real people.  And, that is precisely why I have chosen to be a nurse.  Yes, I'm willing to pay more taxes so that more people can eat and, hopefully, find decent housing.  Yes, I'm willing to pay more taxes so that we might have universal health care.  Yes, I'm willing to pay more taxes in order to build more community centers in hopes of building fewer prisons.  Yes, I'm willing to trust people to make decisions about their own bodies, even if I personally am saddened by the abortions that may result.  Yes, I'm willing to let people love who they want to love; afterall, isn't that a personal freedom? (Remember, "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness) And, yes, I'm willing to keep giving of myself and my money because, as a Christian (not that Christians have a monopoly on morality, quite the contrary!), I feel this is what I am called to give.  Because I can.


 

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I'm not really impressed with either candidate, but I think that McCain is the lesser of 2 evils.


Obama is just too inexperienced. And like someone posted earlier (sorry I don't remember who it was), Obama has some Hiter undertones. That speech that he made in Berlin a couple of weeks ago just sent shivers up my spine.


BTW, Palin totally knocked it out of the park last night!!!!!



Obama has "Hitler undertones"?!  Are you freakin' kidding me?  Where have you been for 8 years.  This administration has used the Nazi regime as its model!  Seriously.  If working in the poor communities of Chicago instead of Wall Street is Hitler-esque, we should all be goose-stepping our way to Utopia!

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And, one more thing.... I will not join the chorus attacking McCain because of his age.  I don't believe age has anything to do with ability.  Some of the sharpest people I know are in their 80s.  McCain is wrong for this country right now.  I used to be a McCain supporter years ago when he actually was a Maverick.  Back then, he used to stand up to both the Democrats and the Republicans.  Now, he has crawled into bed with the extremist Right Wing of the party and is nothing better than Bush (though, he is probably more intellectually gifted..., but, then again, so is my dog.).


I resent McCain trying to sell himself as a Maverick.  He's betting that people like my mother, who always hated him because he used to slam the Republican Party, only remember the John McCain of the past.  But, the McCain of the present is just another Republican.  And, frankly, I'm worse off now than I was eight years ago.  This country can't afford another 4 or, possibly, 8 more years of this crap.  Where's your 401(k), by the way?


John McCain is wrong for this country, but not because of his age.

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 WOW I just read ALL of the posting you guys have written, I am so ashamed of some of you guys. Some of you have fallen into the gutter with some of your rhetoric we are all or most of us educated professional nurses, some of you sound like pissed off teenagers. Bashing each other left and right. The last time I looked we lived in America (notice the capital A for those nit pickers) the land of the free and free speech and free opinions and everyone has the right to have an opinion. Those of you trashing others sound like trailor trash you disgrace your profession.  ALL of us know only what we hear on TV from the different news sources, NONE of you have walked in Mc CAin, Palin or Obamas shoes for that matter, none of you have some divine message from God with the correct answer here. You are mud slinging before the candidates have even begun to do that. We should NOT judge, not the candidates or each other. The issues on both sides will start to come out and then constructive discussions can begin, until then leave the shit slinging to the media, grow up, your a nurse show some class!


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The republicans have ruined our country!!We need our troops home!!

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Rusty, The military is not a 'machine'.  How wonderful for your family too, that they understand the basic term "Freedom isn't Free".  It is a wonderful sacrifice to be in the United States Military.  We owe all that we have to the wonderful men and women who have made that sacrifice and answered the call of country first, me second. 


Additionally, I am also very dissapointed at all the name calling.  There are some of you, I wouldn't want taking care of my parents with attitiudes like that.  John McCain is a very capable man.  He has years of experience, self sacrifice, and most important to me a love of his country.  I think it's sad reflection on society that he is being bashed on his age.   You can say that you think someone is too old, without name calling. 

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I like Hillary, I support Obama and the Democratic platform. I feel big greedy business who has dollars as their God and are helping destroy our country have been in charge too long.  I feel Obama is sincere and wise and may be our hope to turn this country around for the better.    As for climate change OMG, people all over are suffering. Katrina, Charlie, Faye,killer tornadoes. Right now Ike,  is bearing down as a 3 or a 4.   what about all the deaths  and destruction on the Island nations, like Haiti?    I'm not willing to put more oil profiteers in power. What are we thinking?  A costly war for oil, thousands dead with ' collateral damage'  our country in a mess with trillions in the red and diverted from USA programs.like education and preventing crime poverty and child abuse?   war profiteers are happy. Our troops are supportin Obama! Didn't we learn from George, Cheney and Rumsfeld?  I support the right to choose espicially in the case of rape and incest. If a rape incest survivor wants or needs to terminate, by god, that is their right. Who would question  THEIR DECISION?  The midwest, I know, Ohio, IN  Michigan  have no jobs, no employment,  Florida too, it's outrageous!  people forced out of their homes, crime desperation drug abuse, hopelessness,  Please lets turn it around..  Palin  is big lying oil.  Even Pickens is trying to wake us up?  maybe he is a patriot.   Thanks, more later TD

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  The midwest, I know, Ohio, IN  Michigan  have no jobs, no employment,  Florida too, it's outrageous!  people forced out of their homes, crime desperation drug abuse, hopelessness,  Please lets turn it around..  Palin  is big lying oil.  Even Pickens is trying to wake us up? 


 


I couldn't agree w/ you more on the unemployment crisis. I'm in Indiana and my father has been a plant manager for an RV company  for about 20 years and is now filing for bankrupcy. After the increase in gas prices the business started to dwindle and now his 10 years of savings is gone, he's facing losing his home, his cars, and his independance and he's only 50! The RV company, as well as AM General, have faced shut down, major layoffs, and some of the companies are just out of business. I truely believe that it's time to really start to focus on alternatives to fuel because the area I live in is facing a 'depression' and just drilling for oil in Alaska isn't the answer, we need to take the time to find other ways of filling up the gas tanks. I watched a show on Travel the other day and although I can't recall the exact name of the Middle Eastern Company, they are a large supplier of oil and have $70 billion in profits for their country. How can we truely be the most powerful country in the world if we are constintely in the red and more and more people are suffering everyday?!


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Hey Irish, i worked @ AM General for twenty years,  small world!

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Who is Sarah Palin? Here's some basic background:
 
She was elected Alaska's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage.
She has no foreign policy experience. 
 
Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.
 
She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 
 
Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.
 
She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.
 
She's solidly in line with John McCain's 'Big Oil first' energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered species—she was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.
 
How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.
 
 Alaska MoveOn members thought the rest of us should know about their governor.  Here's a sample:
 
"She is really just a mayor from a small town outside Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 years, and has ZERO national and international experience. I shudder to think that she could be the person taking that 3AM call on the White House hotline, and the one who could potentially be charged with leading the US in the volatile international scene that exists today." —Rose M., Fairbanks, AK
 
"She is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska." —Christine B., Denali Park, AK
 
"As an Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and she is not the reformer she claims to be." —Karen L., Anchorage, AK
 
"Alaskans, collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of the nation. She is doing well running our State, but is totally inexperienced on the national level, and very much unequipped to run the nation, if it came to that. She is as far right as one can get, which has already been communicated on the news. In our office of thirty employees (dems, republicans, and nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready for the V.P. position."—Sherry C., Anchorage, AK
 
"She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't care about protecting our natural resources, even though she has worked as a fisherman. McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, but Palin is no Hillary." —Marina L., Juneau, AK
 
"I think she's far too inexperienced to be in this position. I'm all for a woman in the White House, but not one who hasn't done anything to deserve it. There are far many other women who have worked their way up and have much more experience that would have been better choices. This is a patronizing decision on John McCain's part- and insulting to females everywhere that he would assume he'll get our vote by putting 'A Woman' in that position."—Jennifer M., Anchorage, AK
 
Governor Palin is a staunch anti-choice religious conservative. She's a global warming denier who shares John McCain's commitment to Big Oil. And she's dramatically inexperienced.
In picking Sarah Palin, John McCain has made the religious right very happy. And he's made a very dangerous decision for our country.

I don't know about you guys...but I'm voting for Obama 

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Great post nursebadkitty

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GO KITTY!

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This has been a very heated discussion. I was like some others suprised by some of the comments and name calling. I think I learned a few things in viewing this post. I didn't catch any of the Republican convention. I only caught Barak Obama's speech. I am not excited about either candidate. I do think I need to do some research on my own before I make a final decision who I will vote for. Whoever gets elected is inheriting a big mess. It will be labeled a recession as soon as they get in office. It has been a recession. My brother who has been with his company for 13 years was asked to take a lower position or a severance package. He chose the severance package and is looking for work. He was in management for Rent-a Center. My mom works for the local newspaper. She has worked there for over 30 years. She was planning to retire at the end of 09 but the company offered employees a severance package of 6 months pay and a lump sum after that. They said that if this didn't get the company in the black, layoffs will be next. My mom took the package and her last of work is October 31st. Our country is in trouble. I don't know who is right for the job. I know that it is a big job for whoever gets elected.

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Wether I like her or not, I believe that she will be the one to win the election.  Just my hunch.  Personally I don't care about any pregnant daughter.  I just care about a candidate's political agenda and helping the country.

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My biggest problems with Palin is she doesn't believe global warming is caused by humans,inspite of all the scientific evidence proving this.  She wants to open up the Anwar Reserve to the oil companies.  She doesn't believe in the separation of church and state, something the first amendment  emphatically supports.  I don't know about anyone else, but I think a very real part of our adult responsibilities are to try and save the earth for future generations, of all living beings.  She is completely anti choice, even for rape and incest.  I find all this to be absolutely unconscionable.

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Rusty, The military is not a 'machine'.  How wonderful for your family too, that they understand the basic term "Freedom isn't Free".  It is a wonderful sacrifice to be in the United States Military.  We owe all that we have to the wonderful men and women who have made that sacrifice and answered the call of country first, me second. 


Additionally, I am also very dissapointed at all the name calling.  There are some of you, I wouldn't want taking care of my parents with attitiudes like that.  John McCain is a very capable man.  He has years of experience, self sacrifice, and most important to me a love of his country.  I think it's sad reflection on society that he is being bashed on his age.   You can say that you think someone is too old, without name calling. 



Kitt, you note, I never bashed McCain for his age... as note earlier.  And, I never said McCain is not capable.  He is capable and he would do a fine job of taking this country in the direction the Christian Right want him to take it... because, he is now beholding to them.  That's not my particular vision of this country.


And, I stand firm on my conviction that McCain/Palin do not care one iota about me, or you, or any one else in this country.  That is not the particular way the Republicans think when it comes to running the country.  Its a philosophy.  They don't worry about individuals.  That's not their job; they want individuals to take care of themselves under all circumstances.


And, while I am proud of the sacrifices our military men and women make, many of them are just as dispicable as people from other professions.  Many of them are in the military for lack of opportunities elsewhere.  The military of my father's generation is not the military of today.  I think we get overly romantic about what the reality of the military is.  But, yes, many men and women have sacrificed their lives for my freedom.  And, many of them are in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere, unwilling,

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I will be voting for McCain and Palin , She may not be a Politician but let her get to Washington and I am sure they can assist her in matuing in that Role...har...har  But I am mostly voting against OBAMA where I am , where I stand we the people of the United States cannot allow this man to govern our country, My hands would wear out typing the lie's and half truths he has told to get into this election and with absolutely no successful experience in the govorning body......GO MCCAIN PALIN

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 WOW I just read ALL of the posting you guys have written, I am so ashamed of some of you guys. Some of you have fallen into the gutter with some of your rhetoric we are all or most of us educated professional nurses, some of you sound like pissed off teenagers. Bashing each other left and right. The last time I looked we lived in America (notice the capital A for those nit pickers) the land of the free and free speech and free opinions and everyone has the right to have an opinion. Those of you trashing others sound like trailor trash you disgrace your profession.  ALL of us know only what we hear on TV from the different news sources, NONE of you have walked in Mc CAin, Palin or Obamas shoes for that matter, none of you have some divine message from God with the correct answer here. You are mud slinging before the candidates have even begun to do that. We should NOT judge, not the candidates or each other. The issues on both sides will start to come out and then constructive discussions can begin, until then leave the shit slinging to the media, grow up, your a nurse show some class!



Picky? Picky because America should be spelled with a capital A? Damn right. And, if you are going for an advanced degree, you should know how to spell trailer. Pissed off Teen angers and shit slinging is really classy and professional nurse sounding. way to go. Why don't you stick with what you do best. collect friends.

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I will be voting for McCain and Palin , She may not be a Politician but let her get to Washington and I am sure they can assist her in matuing in that Role...har...har  But I am mostly voting against OBAMA where I am , where I stand we the people of the United States cannot allow this man to govern our country, My hands would wear out typing the lie's and half truths he has told to get into this election and with absolutely no successful experience in the govorning body......GO MCCAIN PALIN



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McCain's desperate attempt to sway women voters and cater to America's desire for "change" (You Republicans know you want it) is shocking and quite funny really.  I really shouldn't be laughing; I should fear for the future of this country.  McCain is obviously placing his own interests before the interests of the American people.   Now... if women, regardless of their party affiliation, choose to vote for McCain soley based upon the fact that there is a women on the ticket then those women need to re-evaluate whether or not they really care about the REAL issues (i.e. economy, global warming, health care).  I'm almost offended by McCain's and the Republican party's assumptions that the women of this country can be so easily manipulated by this political play.  In my opinion McCain's VP choice shows bad judgement and selfishness.  As far as my thoughts about Mrs. Palin, I'm not impressed.  Palin and McCain need to work on their dry speeches; maybe they can get some pointers from Obama :)

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denis: yes. My husband and I wre not the only two in NV. I knew there had to be more of us.

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McCain's desperate attempt to sway women voters and cater to America's desire for "change" (You Republicans know you want it) is shocking and quite funny really.  I really shouldn't be laughing; I should fear for the future of this country.  McCain is obviously placing his own interests before the interests of the American people.   Now... if women, regardless of their party affiliation, choose to vote for McCain soley based upon the fact that there is a women on the ticket then those women need to re-evaluate whether or not they really care about the REAL issues (i.e. economy, global warming, health care).  I'm almost offended by McCain's and the Republican party's assumptions that the women of this country can be so easily manipulated by this political play.  In my opinion McCain's VP choice shows bad judgement and selfishness.  As far as my thoughts about Mrs. Palin, I'm not impressed.  Palin and McCain need to work on their dry speeches; maybe they can get some pointers from Obama :)



Agreed.  I love how the Republicans say that Palin's pregnant daughter should be off boundaries.  Heck, even Obama says so.  I totally disagree.  A party that has made its political living out standing in judgement of others and their life choices now wants to tell us not to judge them for their choices?!  That is so damned funny as to be ridiculous.  Little Mrs. Perfect Hockey Mom has a daughter that cries out for help by sleeping with boyfriend and now she's being forced to marry for partyline politics.  That's not good parenting.  Or... if you think that's okay parenting and just a part of life, then get used to all the many beautiful ways that families are formed... sometimes, that means there will be two mommies and sometimes two daddies... sometimes granny has to raise the kids, sometimes big sister has to raise the kids.  Who are we to judge which way is best?  But, by God, Sarah Palin and John McCain better not get into office and try to ram their family values down our throats.  That includes telling women what to do with their bodies.

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My apologies... for being a pitbull regarding this political topic.  I'm sorry for offending some of you, even though I have heard positive reinforcement from many of you.


To those of you I have offended, I hope you will cut me some slack.  After years of working in communities trying to make a positive difference in the lives of the underserved while at the same time trying to take care of my family, I find myself worse off than I was eight years ago.  I have been a foster parent, a community organizer and fund-raiser, volunteered in my son's schools and in our church and fed people when I wasn't sure I could feed my own family.  And, despite this, I have so much less security due to, as I see it, the decisions of this administration.  And, to add insult to injury, Sarah Palin felt it necessary to make fun of me this week at her National Convention... when she made fun of Barack Obama being a community organizer.... as if being a community organizer is something to be ashamed of.


Its been a tough 8 years.  I'm tired.  And, the one thing I felt any pride in (namely making a difference in my community) was made fun of.  I can barely afford a pot to piss in... and my son even had to leave his "dream college" because I couldn't pick up the financial slack that he just couldn't swing himself.  I feel pretty crappy.  But, that doesn't give me the right to be insulting to others.  And, for that, I apologize.


 

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