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Palin is a self-made woman calling a stepford wife is absolutely ridiculous...I don't agree with everything she says or does ... but when the choices are before us, McCain/Palin seem like abetter choice .... Obama has made many anti-American remarks as has his wife ...our country needs people who are proud to be an American ...did anyone witness or know anyone who witnessed the Trade Centers coming down ... the Lackawanna 7 arrest stop the rest of the country from suffering the same fate ...the arrest  in LA saved the west coast...the Oklahoma bombing will some day be tied directly to these terrorist


We need some one who is serious about combating terrorism and understands the true graviity of our country's vulnerbility ... McCain's military experience is to his credit ... POW's do not have a choice of vanilla or chocolate ice cream at bed time in the 100+ degrees ... he certainly has taken more heat and pain than the average man.


 

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 iluvnrsing: It does not matter WHO said it, why did you immediately jump and make it a racial thing? Who cares about color? YOU? White is a color too ask crayola.


I posted an article only because I could not get it to post here on the differences between Obamas positions and Mc Cains positions, it gives the web sites so ALL the info can be verified, I had to post under news with a flag. Take a look


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Let's get back on topic shall we?


The reasons I won't vote for McCain are these


1. He supports off shore drilling, I do not.  I don't think the environment can take anymore


2. Palin wants to open up the Anwar Reserve a fragile ecosystem.  I do not support this.


3. Palin tried to sue the US Government when Polar Bears were put on the endangered species list.  Their numbers are rapidly decreasing


4. I do not support gun laws or NRA


5. I support women's right to choose.  If Palin has her way, there will be no sex education in schools, nothing about safe sex.  750,000 teenage girls  get pregnant in the U.S. each year at a cost of $9.1billion in public funding.

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1.I just want to point out, about offshore drilling, right now foreign companies/countries can drill off our shore (I think it's 50 miles to international waters) and we can't.  Do you think Mexico, drilling off the coast of florida is going to be eco-friendly?   They could give a rats azz about it.  We should do it, and place regulations on it, or someone else that doesn't abide by our laws will drill, spill, and sell it back to us for $120 barrel.


 

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So do we all think more oil dependancy is the answer?  Wasn't in the 70's...and we didn't listen then and most aren't listening now...

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5. "I support women's right to choose.  If Palin has her way, there will be no sex education in schools, nothing about safe sex.  750,000 teenage girls  get pregnant in the U.S. each year at a cost of $9.1billion in public funding."



Dmazment:


I am totally with you on this one.  I bet 75% of my L&D patients are under 17.  One patient was 17 and having her 3rd baby...  

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I think he chose this totally unexperienced woman because she is a woman basically.  I think she needs to focus on her own family;  her five children, especially the one with Down's Syndrome, need her undivided attention.  (And I was a bra-burning hippie yet.)  In addition to the comment about McCain having dumped Wife #1 for Wife #2:  it wasn't just that fact.  Wife #2's family was wealthy, and Wife #1 had been injured in a car accident.  I have no respect for this man. 

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Barack Obama lost his bearings recently and said that he's campaigned in all 57 states.


And everybody chalked it up to,

'Well, he's just tired… you know, it's been such a long campaign, he's been so many places"


Every American school-age child knows we have 50 states!


Obama said he's campaigned in 57 states,

and it turns out that there are

57 ISLAMIC STATES!



Watch this video off youtube, and see for yourself. Obama's own speech. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRoPoKg7PAI


Did Obama just lose his bearings, or was this a more telling slip?


Someone running for President that forgets there are 50 states. Definitely not someone I would put my faith in to run this country.


 


 


Conspiracy is wonderful, especially when you don't have to back up your speculations....


It was a small slip up...  there are 57 "locations"  including states and territories (i.e., Guam, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands) from which the primary candidates can get their voting delegates. 


Stop reading your email crap from right wing wackos.  This country is in the terrible state it is in because too many people read those crappy emails in 2004.


 


 


 


 


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Gee, last time I checked BO is a Christian too.  As everyone keeps reminding me, he's been a member of a church for the last 20 years.  The Black Value System was so controversial his church pulled it off the internet.  So there is a lot of questions we could pose to BO.



Meanwhile, Sarah Palin's church has some pretty extremist ideas, too.  Anytime someone (especially Sarah Palin) believes we are in a Holy War chosen by God... you know many innocent people are going to die.  The bloodshed will only continue with Sarah.


But, if we're lucky, we can all book our tickets to Anchorage/Wasilla for an October festival at her church where they will be "praying the gay away"... to make people not gay.  Good Lord!

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Palin is a self-made woman calling a stepford wife is absolutely ridiculous...I don't agree with everything she says or does ... but when the choices are before us, McCain/Palin seem like abetter choice .... Obama has made many anti-American remarks as has his wife ...our country needs people who are proud to be an American ...did anyone witness or know anyone who witnessed the Trade Centers coming down ... the Lackawanna 7 arrest stop the rest of the country from suffering the same fate ...the arrest  in LA saved the west coast...the Oklahoma bombing will some day be tied directly to these terrorist


We need some one who is serious about combating terrorism and understands the true graviity of our country's vulnerbility ... McCain's military experience is to his credit ... POW's do not have a choice of vanilla or chocolate ice cream at bed time in the 100+ degrees ... he certainly has taken more heat and pain than the average man.


 



McCain has no right to stand upon his POW status when, now, he supports torture.  End of story!

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1.I just want to point out, about offshore drilling, right now foreign companies/countries can drill off our shore (I think it's 50 miles to international waters) and we can't.  Do you think Mexico, drilling off the coast of florida is going to be eco-friendly?   They could give a rats azz about it.  We should do it, and place regulations on it, or someone else that doesn't abide by our laws will drill, spill, and sell it back to us for $120 barrel.


 



Kittryn... do you know how much oil lies under U.S. boundaries?  Roughly 3% of the world's oil reserves.  Do you know how much oil the U.S. consumes?  Roughly 50% of worldwide consumption.  How long do you thing that meager 3% will last?  Drilling will not solve our problems.  Getting our fat assess out of SUVs, walking, riding bikes, carpooling... developing green technologies.


Continuing with your analogy... if we don't develop green technologies, who do you think will?  Those goddam liberal Europeans!  And, as a consequence, they will get the patents and the jobs associated with the new technology.  So, while we're sucking on oil like a crack whore sucks on.....  well, you know.... other countries will be laughing their way to economic security while we spend our money on oil and foreign wars.  I understand that's a difficult concept to grasp because it causes Americans to change their way of living... and that independent spirit doesn't like being told to change.... but, we have no choice.  This river was forged in the 70s when we were brought to our knees in an oil crisis and we chose, then, not to reform ourselves.  We have nobody to blame but ourselves.

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I think he chose this totally unexperienced woman because she is a woman basically.  I think she needs to focus on her own family;  her five children, especially the one with Down's Syndrome, need her undivided attention.  (And I was a bra-burning hippie yet.)  In addition to the comment about McCain having dumped Wife #1 for Wife #2:  it wasn't just that fact.  Wife #2's family was wealthy, and Wife #1 had been injured in a car accident.  I have no respect for this man. 



Or the fact that he cheat on wife #1 with who because wife #2.  Every woman knows you never marry the man who cheated on his wife... but, Cindy McCain has the power called MONEY. 

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Kittryn... do you know how much oil lies under U.S. boundaries?  Roughly 3% of the world's oil reserves.  Do you know how much oil the U.S. consumes?  Roughly 50% of worldwide consumption.  How long do you thing that meager 3% will last?  Drilling will not solve our problems.  Getting our fat assess out of SUVs, walking, riding bikes, carpooling... developing green technologies.


Continuing with your analogy... if we don't develop green technologies, who do you think will?  Those goddam liberal Europeans!  And, as a consequence, they will get the patents and the jobs associated with the new technology.  So, while we're sucking on oil like a crack whore sucks on.....  well, you know.... other countries will be laughing their way to economic security while we spend our money on oil and foreign wars.  I understand that's a difficult concept to grasp because it causes Americans to change their way of living... and that independent spirit doesn't like being told to change.... but, we have no choice.  This river was forged in the 70s when we were brought to our knees in an oil crisis and we chose, then, not to reform ourselves.  We have nobody to blame but ourselves.



He** yeah! I just wanted to stand up and shout when I read this. I absolutely agree. I'm a huge documentary nut and watch several regarding different places throughout the world. We really do need a wake up! The Europeans have been driving more fuel friendly cars for years now and we are just now getting the hint! I actually count the number of SUV's with my kids on the road everyday just so they can realize for the future the need to be 'conservative' in the their use of oil and I'm telling you it never fails, there are always around 10:1 SUVs/minivans on the road vs smaller compact cars. Living near the Hummer Plant I think people here just feel the need to own one. For what? I haven't seen any reason to own an off road vehicle here, we have no mountains, were not surrounded by forests, we have roads and highways? But yet people just have to own these gas guzzling pieces of crap that only get 8-10 mpg. I think it's overcompensation for something else?!?!

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Gee, last time I checked BO is a Christian too.  As everyone keeps reminding me, he's been a member of a church for the last 20 years.  The Black Value System was so controversial his church pulled it off the internet.  So there is a lot of questions we could pose to BO.



Meanwhile, Sarah Palin's church has some pretty extremist ideas, too.  Anytime someone (especially Sarah Palin) believes we are in a Holy War chosen by God... you know many innocent people are going to die.  The bloodshed will only continue with Sarah.


But, if we're lucky, we can all book our tickets to Anchorage/Wasilla for an October festival at her church where they will be "praying the gay away"... to make people not gay.  Good Lord!



Oh geesh....if McCain/Palin win....I just might be trying to relocate to Canada or England. Guess I'll have to get over my hatred for the snow. LOL

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No one's family is perfect and we can't hold that fact that her teen daughter is pregnant against her.  I feel her kids lives should be left out of her race for Vice President of the U.S.A.


We all have skeletons in our closets and if you think you don't, someone will find something on ya!

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Let's get back on topic shall we?


 


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The family members, especialy the children, should be left alone.  I think that most have been down not on the daughter but on her mother for allowing the poor kid to be brought out into national spot light. Both she and McCain should be ashamed for what they are doing to this poor kid.

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Wow, the libs are now attacking people for running in politics because their children are handicapped.  I have to say that is low.  If it was a liberal, they'd say 'look how brave they are for bringing attention to this problem'.  


So nobody has a problem with BO's admitted 'blow use' not as a teenager, but when he lived in NYC?  As far as John McCain's failed first marriage 30 years ago, he's right in there with half of America.  It's yet to be seen if BO will still be married in 10 years, he's young.   And in politics, there's a long list of people that cheated on their wives....edwards, clinton, to name a few .  Additionally,  Cindy McCain's father was a WW2 Vet, that came home and worked his AZZ off, starting a business that wound up being very lucrative.  KUDOS TO HIM.  Cindy has worked/volunteered for decades in orphanages overseas, even worked with Mother Theresa.  One of their children is a child that she brought home from the orphanage and adopted. 

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No one's family is perfect and we can't hold that fact that her teen daughter is pregnant against her.  I feel her kids lives should be left out of her race for Vice President of the U.S.A.


We all have skeletons in our closets and if you think you don't, someone will find something on ya!



Sap,


While I am the first to demand that children be left out of the national spotlight (I applaud the great job the Clintons and their abusers did on leaving Chelsea alone and out of the press), Sarah Palin and the GOP should not get a free pass on this one.  She stands in judgment of my family, your family, and every family in this country with her holier than Thou attitude.


For years, the Extreme Christian Right, Sarah Palin included, have co-opted  what it mean to have "Family Values".  What they mean is, THEIR Family Values... mother, father, and 2.3 children, good Christian church every Sunday, Creationism... yadda, yadda, yadda.  And, if you didn't meet that definition, something is wrong with you.  Single mother.... wrong!  Grandparents raising grandchildren... wrong!  Two moms raising children.... wrong!  Mixed race families.... wrong.  Unmarried parents... wrong!  They have been standing in judgment of virtually everyone.  And, now for Sarah Palin and her supporters to stand back and say, "Wait, don't judge us; leave my children out of it..." is wrong.  I'm not judging her daughter; I'm judging Sarah Palin... something she's been doing of me for years!


 


 


 

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Wow, the libs are now attacking people for running in politics because their children are handicapped.  I have to say that is low.  If it was a liberal, they'd say 'look how brave they are for bringing attention to this problem'.  


So nobody has a problem with BO's admitted 'blow use' not as a teenager, but when he lived in NYC?  As far as John McCain's failed first marriage 30 years ago, he's right in there with half of America.  It's yet to be seen if BO will still be married in 10 years, he's young.   And in politics, there's a long list of people that cheated on their wives....edwards, clinton, to name a few .  Additionally,  Cindy McCain's father was a WW2 Vet, that came home and worked his AZZ off, starting a business that wound up being very lucrative.  KUDOS TO HIM.  Cindy has worked/volunteered for decades in orphanages overseas, even worked with Mother Theresa.  One of their children is a child that she brought home from the orphanage and adopted. 



Kittryn... where do you get this stuff!?  Liberals haven't been using the handicapped child thing.  The GOP has.  They parade that baby around like it was a prized pig at the fair!!!  They should be ashamed of themselves.  It'd be one thing if you saw the child every once in a while.  But, you know the GOP as well as anyone else... this is all about staging events... and they are staging these events with Palin's Down Syndrome baby, just like "Mission Accomplished".


What you have seen is people questioning whether the needs of the child can be met by a mother with 4 other children, an illegitimate grandchild on the way, and the responsibilities of the V.P., potentionally the P.  That's the kind of scrutiny she should have expected and if she didn't want people questioning her, she shouldn't have entered the race.  Those are fair questions.


What I do know... the child will be very well cared for.... just probably not by his mother.  But, hey, that's not so unlike the arrangements made by many, many American families.

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and if the baby (not prized pig) wasn't out with the other kids, they'd say she was ashamed and hiding the child (not prized pig).

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and if the baby (not prized pig) wasn't out with the other kids, they'd say she was ashamed and hiding the child (not prized pig).



How 'bout... leave the kids at home... better yet, keep them in school.

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and if the baby (not prized pig) wasn't out with the other kids, they'd say she was ashamed and hiding the child (not prized pig).



How 'bout... leave the kids at home... better yet, keep them in school.



On further reflection...  It's probably not realistic that the Palin Children will be attending school in a traditional sense now.  I'm not sure what other political candidates did with their children with regard to schooling while on the campaign trail.  HOWEVER...


The point is, the children don't need to be paraded on stage.  This campaign is not about the children.  We, and the candidates, should be focusing on the issues.  I care about:


1) Healthcare costs (I'm currently uninsured and can't go to the doctor for fear of discovering something bad... which would forever keep me from getting health insurance!)


     1a) Overhaul the FDA, CDC, and National Institutes of Health... all have become too political and, when in a role of policing the pharmaceutical industry, they are failing


2) Economy (including conversion to a green economy):  The middle class is choking in debt while the rich get richer (Get rid of the Bush tax cuts to the wealthy.. I like Obama's plan which does just that!)


    2a) Environment (Hands off ANWR, hands off coastal drilling, stop giving tax dollars to oil corporations that are making historic profits, and clean house and fully fund the EPA... listen to scientists, not politicians, and enforce the regulations; fully fund our national parks so that we don't have to pay-to-use, which is effectively double taxation)


3) A woman's right to choose abortion, if she deems it necessary (I have never met a woman who entered that decision lightly! Think SUPREME COURT!)


4) Foreign policy (we are currently burning bridges (and I don't mean Alaskan bridges!) faster than we can build them


5) Education (our system is broken, NCLB is NOT working but I don't know how to fix it... that's why I want to hear what the candidates have to say; plus, a college education must be affordable... my son has already had to switch schools due to rising costs.)


6) Immigration... again, I don't know what the answer is, but perhaps we should be working more closely with Mexico to create an economy that will keep Mexicans in Mexico... where they WANT to be with their families.  (BTW: I know there are illegal immigrants from other countries, but I think its safe to say a majority come from Mexico... I don't mind being corrected if I'm wrong.)


Other issues: gun control (I don't have a problem with guns and hunting, but I fail to see the need for semi-automatic rifles; protecting your family and property is one thing, peppering an entire neighborhood with bullets is another!), Marriage equality (if good people are paying their taxes, they should have the right to marry whomever they choose; that's between them and God, not them and their government); Equal pay for equal work (though, I'm not sure how the government can control that... suggestions?); liberty (get the government out of the business of legislating morality); ethics reform (get rid of lobbyists... former legislators should not have access to active legislators for a period of at least 10 years)


Whereby Julie Andrews comes traipsing in singing, "... these are just a few of my favorite things...."


 


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 From   Dreams of My Father:  'I  ceased  to advertise  my   mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I  began  to  suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating  myself  to  whites.'  


From   Dreams of My Father :   'I  found a  solace in  nursing  a  pervasive sense of grievance and animosity  against  my  mother's race.'


From   Dreams of My Father:  'There  was  something  about  him  that made me wary, a little too sure of  himself,   maybe. And white.'   


Here are some exerpts from Obamas own book, please read these.
 
From   Dreams of My Father:   'It   remained necessary to prove which side you  were  on,  to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and   name  names.'  

 

From   Dreams of My Father:  'I  never  emulate white  men  and  brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into   my father's image, the black  man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all  the  attributes   I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois   and Mandela.' 

   
And   FINALLY the Most Damming one of ALL of  them!!!  

 
From   Audacity of Hope:  'I  will  stand with the Muslims should the  political  winds   shift in an ugly direction.' 


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 Above are writings from Obamas own book.


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I think you can damn anyone for taking exerpts out of context, just as you can validate any of your religious beliefs by doing the same.  What precedes these statements and follows them?


He chose Martin Luther King Jr, Nelson Mandela, W,E,B DuBois as role models.  Darn good role models if you ask me.


Some of these statements showed an honesty about how he felt at the age of 12 or 13.  The angst, the uncertainty. 

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I think you can damn anyone for taking exerpts out of context, just as you can validate any of your religious beliefs by doing the same.  What precedes these statements and follows them?


He chose Martin Luther King Jr, Nelson Mandela, W,E,B DuBois as role models.  Darn good role models if you ask me.


Some of these statements showed an honesty about how he felt at the age of 12 or 13.  The angst, the uncertainty. 


Yes, so true. My husband has read the books. He got something very differnt from what is here. I have a post on the very same subject that will follow.


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Okay, here ya go, right from his book. Looks a little different now doesn't it?  I have the book right here in front of me. I will ready it. My husband has read the book. These above came from the internet, not from his book.

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Quotes From Barack Obama Books-Truth! & Fiction!


Summary of the eRumor:  
A collection of quotes from two books written by Senator Barack Obama that try to highlight his attitudes about race and Islam.


The Truth:  
All but two of the quotes seem to be accurate, but are taken out of context.


One of the quotes does not exist and the one about Islam is fabricated.


Also, whoever constructed this eRumor claims that some of the quotes are from a book by Obama titled Dreams of My Father.  The actual title of Obama's book is Dreams From my Father.


In response to email rumors that have circulated about Obama, his campaign has created a page to respond to the rumors.  CLICK HERE for the "Fight the Smears" page.


(CLICK HERE for a list of other related stories about Barack Obama)


Let's look at them one-at-a-time:


"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."-Truth!
This is an accurate quote from the introduction to Dreams from My Father.  The book chronicles Obama's experience as the son of an African father and an American mother.

"I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."-Fiction!
This quote does not exist in either of Obama's books.


"There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."-
Truth!
This is a quote from Dreams from My Father.  It it in a section in which Obama describes a job interview with a man in Chicago.  Race had been a part of their discussion and the full quote is, "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe.  And white---he'd said himself that was a problem."


It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."-
Truth!
This one is also from Dreams from My Father.  It is from a section when Obama was a college student and wrestling with his identity including as an African-American.  The quote describes his observation of what was required among his fellow students.


"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."-
Truth!
This is from Dreams from my Father.  The more complete quote is, ""Yes, I’d seen weakness in other men— Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."


"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."-Fiction!
This is a corruption of a quote from Obama's book The Audacity of Hope.  It is from a section that talks about the concerns of immigrants who are American citizens.


 

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 I did not get the whole sentence sent to me so you may be right, just passing on more info, it forces people to do MORE research on the talking points as they come in. When others get more info it is nice to post and then read all of this is forcing ALL of us to take a better look at BOTH candidates I hope.


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