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Should nurses be mandated to be bilingual?

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This is becoming a serious problem. Not only is there a serious shortage for nurses in this country, Were hiring foreign nurses also, for there ability to speak a second language. Do you think that we should be mandated to speak a second language? Why or why not? Do you think this is a good or bad idea?

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This has already been discussed in another pots.. take a look and see what was said..

http://nursinglink.monster.com/discussions/4-nurse-talk/topics/44-should-nurses-be-required-to-speak-a-second-language

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No, But I do know some spanish. I live in Colorado and we have a large population of spanish speaking people.If you are a foreign nurse coming to America to work as a nurse, you should be able to speak our language fluently. You need a high level of communaication adn comprehension skills.


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I do not think that it should be mandated. I do think that employers could do more to help their employees to learn a second language. I also think they could offer more money for taking the classes.

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Hospitals and other facilities are mandated by federal law to offer interpretive services for clients. That said I do not believe it is anybody's best interest for it to be mandated that nurses speak 2 languages (other than medical and english).

Being conversant in basic Spanish is helpful. But to tell me that to work in the United States I have to be fluent in Spanish to talk to someone who came here of their own choice knowing they did not speak the language, thats going too far. I took 2 years of high school Spanish, I use some Spanish in my current job, but I am not at all what I consider fluent. I think there needs to be more opportunity for both sides to learn the others language but I also feel that it needs to be encouraged and required that you learn the language of the country you have chose to make your home; its what immigrants have done for centuries.

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Ugh? NO! This is an English speaking country and until that changes... The question is ridiculous.

I am not saying that it is not a great benefit for nurses to be bilingual, but to make it mandatory is another story.

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"To stem nursing shortage, state plans to send bilingual students to Mexico, but some say money would be better spent in California."

This from is the feature article today:

http://nursinglink.monster.com/news/articles/1007-state-first-in-history-to-outsource-nurses

What do you think about bilingual nurses being taught internationally? Do you think the benefit of having more nurses will outweigh the costs to educate them outside the U.S.?

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Remember people that Medical attention should not be deny to anyone in any country of the world. United States of America has (and it will always has) many different ethnicity from different part of the world I think that in different part of the country Nurses should learn basics words in another language.
There are been cases where babies has die because of the parent lack of communication. That is why I think that in some part of the country Nurses should know basics words in another language.

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I think it all depends on the standards and curriculum of the country. How are they monitoring that? Until they have something in place, I think its a bad idea.

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Remember people that Medical attention should not be deny to anyone in any country of the world. United States of America has (and it will always has) many different ethnicity from different part of the world I think that in different part of the country Nurses should learn basics words in another language.
There are been cases where babies has die because of the parent lack of communication. That is why I think that in some part of the country Nurses should know basics words in another language.

if babies died because of a lack of communication then the health care team is at fault for not acquiring an interpretor, which is the right of the patient. However, they are not at fault for not knowing a few words in another language. a few words will not get you very far in medicine. additionally, it is not simply about language but also about culture. Interpretors tend to be natives to the language they interpret or they know a great deal about the country and its people. So it is of great benefit to use them as a resource whenever possible. Not knowing the culture may be worse than not knowing the language especially in health care.

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I don't think we should be 'mandated' to learn a second language. However, if there is a break in communication with the client, health promotion is basically impossible. In my last job, we had a sheet of spanish terms, both medical and nonmedical. I think for the benefit of the patient (and protection of our licenses, really), nurses should seek to learn at least basic terms of the language.

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I don't think a second language should be mandatory however, when it comes to employment, you might want to think again. I live in a large southern city where being biligual opens doors to new jobs. Its very difficult to explain to patients who are not bilingual certain medical information. I also work in a level 1 trauma center where we have the services is multiple language interpreters. Not all places of employment offer such services. If spanish speaking patients want our care (most of the time for no cost to them) they should or a family member should be able to communicate with medical personnel.

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That's a good idea - a reference card of Spanish terms would be very helpful.

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Why stop at Spanish how about Vietnamese or Thai. I have alot of Nigeriansworking for me maybe I need to learn their language. Now nurses not only need to know all the technology all the assessment skills and all the meds now we need to be linguists. Keep going there won't be any nurses left in any language.

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FYI....
I am currently working on my prerequisites so I can apply for the accelerated BSN at Colorado State University Pueblo. Of the 8 required classes, two must be a foreign language. Two language classes do not make you bilingual.

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Sorry to be a critic. However, after spending nearly 4 years working on obtaining a nursing degree to be told one week before graduation that I needed more practice and would not be allowed to graduate with my class. Then to find out that some students have not been allowed to complete their programs due to something as silly as "you did not fluff your dressing properly". Please, explain to me, bilingual or not, who will be willing to indure the tourment of instructors in order to maintain the nursing profession. This when you can make just as much money doing something else that recieves the respect you ought to earn with years of blood, sweat and tears. A lot of wonderfully needed bilingual nurses have walked away from the hospital to never return after an instructor has informed them that they have been rendered worthless to their program and the profession. We have a shortage? God Bless You, in your efforts to create a bilingual America! It would help, however, if schools would quite forcing culturally challenged students to leave the profession.

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This is still America I have traveled to many countries where I am required to follow that countries guide lines I have been in a foriegn hospital and believe me when I say they did not go learn English for me. Also what is next will we be required to speak German, French, or perhaps Africants as the South Africans speak . People we need to stand up for this country and the language of this country.

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Sorry to be a critic. However, after spending nearly 4 years working on obtaining a nursing degree to be told one week before graduation that I needed more practice and would not be allowed to graduate with my class. Then to find out that some students have not been allowed to complete their programs due to something as silly as "you did not fluff your dressing properly". Please, explain to me, bilingual or not, who will be willing to indure the tourment of instructors in order to maintain the nursing profession. This when you can make just as much money doing something else that recieves the respect you ought to earn with years of blood, sweat and tears. A lot of wonderfully needed bilingual nurses have walked away from the hospital to never return after an instructor has informed them that they have been rendered worthless to their program and the profession. We have a shortage? God Bless You, in your efforts to create a bilingual America! It would help, however, if schools would quite forcing culturally challenged students to leave the profession.

I am a RN, BSN and I know that nursing school is an experience I never want to live through again. It was one of the worse experiences in my 40 years of life. Unfortunately, nursing school and the teachers can make you critical (try not to let it:-). I am sorry to hear that after 4 grueling years, you were not allowed to graduate with your class. I do not know the reasons, but I can assure you that if a baseball team has a losing season, the team is not fired, the coach is. I think anyone who has the intelligence to make it into nursing school and has the desire to be a good nurse should pass.....if they do not , why not look at the teachers? Unfortunately, we have an even bigger gap to fill when it comes to nursing educators, often," those who can do and those who can't teach"....sad but true. Good luck to you in whatever you decide to do.

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That's a good idea - a reference card of Spanish terms would be very helpful.

Perhaps requiring medical personnel to learn Spanish would be a excellent idea. It would be particularly helpful in areas where there are numerous Spanish speaking populations. I have worked in clinics where Spanish dictionary/common phrase books were available for use. These books were only utilized if there was a need. It was rare to see someone just pick up one of these books and read it for knowledge sake. Learning another language can be fun and eliminate the gaps in communication and trust between patient and healthcare provider.

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It is the hospital's responsibility to provide the interpreter. If the patient was deaf, we would expect someone who signed to be available. The nurse cannot be expected to be able to communicate with all people at all times. We have a hard enough job as it is. It is time for the individual institutions to be responsible for something.

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I have been begging my hospital to get us spanish classes without success. I work in the er so we really need it. they should give it in nursing school

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When in Rome, you do as the Romans do. When in America, we do what Americans do; and that is we speak English as our first language. While learning a second language can only serve to enhance one's life; be it your patient's or yourself, to make it "mandatory" is not being fair. What's being fair you ask? Making sure that you have a diversity of people working in your establishment. (be it Spanish, English, Creole, French, Japanese whoever!) I'm sure there is a united front, we just need to find it!

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Nursing students have to make enough sacrifices and so do their families while acomplishing school load. This is English speaking country. We have foreign exchange programs for the students that want to go abroad to learn about another country like Mexico's language and customs. I suggest two alternatives: #1 Schools, adult programs, and hospitals add more quick short language classes for medical personal only (nursing graduates). This way graduate nurses earn their CEU's, everyone benefits, the schools/programs, teachers, community and the nurse! #2 At the end of this course medical and nurses are given flip reference language card books to keep for practice. California;s high standards for nurses is strict enough, students have enough to study, adding more to their curriculum will take away from the necessary art of nursing, which is the heartbeat of it all. I say make the language be picked up as CEU's, everyone benefits that way.

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I do not think it should be manditory. Hospitals and other facilities are required to offer interpretive services for clients.

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My bad! Mandation was a wrong choice of words but, I'm glad to see all the differences of oppinions to this topic. I agree with a lot of you for the most part that nursing students already have enough on their plates and the hospitals should have interpreters also, this is an english speeking country so who ever comes should learn the language. Being married into a Mexican family for 15 years and in the family for 19 years, the majoitory of them do speak english but, medical terms you don't learn on the streets or in english classes. This is my concern. If I'm not able to go to the hospital with them, most of the time they don't understand what's being done and for what, due to the lack of the interpreters and a bilingual nurse. What is the resolution to this problem? Not only is there a shortage of nurses but, also interpreters. Someone please give me more insite on what we can do and what can be done SOON to fix this problem. Or tell me this, if you were on vaction in Mexico and you had an emergency and had to go to the E.R., you don't speek a lik of spanish, wouldn't you hope that you got a nurse that spoke english even though her or his first language is spanish? Put yourselves in their shoes for a moment and ask yourselves that question. Lets lower our prides and be a little less racist. We never know when we'll find ourselves in this situation.

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Dear PHUNARIES, ( Is there a second translation for that? No pun intended). You want a quick fix for a nationwide problem? Well here it is : Make sure that your'e immediate family members are learning the "other language " regardless of which country they're in and if everyone follow suit then none of us would find our selves in these type of situations. How soon do think this problem could be resolve? By the way, this does not have anything to do with pride or being racist. We are all healthcare practioners because we love and care about people, Period!

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KPetro said:


That's a good idea - a reference card of Spanish terms would be very helpful.


Perhaps requiring medical personnel to learn Spanish would be a excellent idea. It would be particularly helpful in areas where there are numerous Spanish speaking populations. I have worked in clinics where Spanish dictionary/common phrase books were available for use. These books were only utilized if there was a need. It was rare to see someone just pick up one of these books and read it for knowledge sake. Learning another language can be fun and eliminate the gaps in communication and trust between patient and healthcare provider.


Kpetro you are still not addressing the issue that English is the official language in this country. Therefore, one could not be required to learn and/or use another language in the workplace.

Why aren't we asking the question should immigrants that gain U.S. citizenship or visa status be required to learn english prior to finalizing the process....

If your next thought then is what about illegal aliens, well there illegal. enough said!

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I do not think that it should be mandated. I do think that employers could do more to help their employees to learn a second language. I also think they could offer more money for taking the classes.

i agree ..... it was hard enough learning MED.TERMINOLOGY, that in itself is its own language...... but if a nurse wanted to learn a THIRD language , more power to that nurse.

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I do not feel that it should be necessary but I am sure if you had on a resume you could speak more then one language...depending on what it was and the area you were getting the job in...you may have a better chance at a job and such. I am going to start working on teaching myself spanish I beleive as I learned it in high school but it has been so long since i used it i dont remember much and would like to learn just for myself.

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redquid said:

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I am currently working on my prerequisites so I can apply for the accelerated BSN at Colorado State University Pueblo. Of the 8 required classes, two must be a foreign language. Two language classes do not make you bilingual.

Oh my god Sonia, can you image trying to learn, all the medical terminology along with spanish classes. That would be a over kill. That's not the stress of being in the nursing program. I am not going to bend over backwards, to accomendate, someone, that needs to go to school , like me, and learn English!!!!


I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health.

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