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The Truth About Obama
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Posted over 4 years ago There's been an over abundance of rumors and myths about each candidate. Since I support Obama, I find it important to dispell the myths and lies. I'm going to post clarifications to the most common of those spread about Obama. "One thing you can believe: It'll only get worse between now and Election Day. Obama's spokesman Tommy Vietor said their strategy has been to 'confront these rumors head-on'. Although this year's level of rumors has been ferocious and bizarre, the phenomenon of whisper campaigns, misinformation, and smears is as much a part of our nation's roots as elections themselves. Thomas Jefferson was accused of being anti-Christian; his opponents warned that he would destroy the religious fabric and values of the country and promote an orgy of rape, incest, and adultery. John Adams, opponents said, was pro-monarchy and was planning on marrying his son to the daughter of King George III. ~The Associated Press. ~ Melissa |
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The information listed in subsequent posts will be from Factcheck. I chose Factcheck as it appears both McCain and Obama supporters use this as a source of truth. (FactCheck.org, which is nonpartisan, also receives funding from the Annenberg Foundation. But we are in no way connected to the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which finished its work long before we came into being in late 2003.) ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Bill Ayers Issue.... We find McCain's accusation that Obama "lied" to be groundless. Obama never denied working with Ayers. The education project is far from being "radical,".....The project is described by Education Week as reflecting "mainstream thinking" about school reform. there's still no evidence of a deep or strong "friendship" with Ayers, Obama never said Ayers was "just" a guy in the neighborhood. The quote is from a Democratic primary debate on April 16 in Philadelphia, and Obama actually was more forthcoming than McCain lets on. Obama specifically acknowledged working together with Ayers on a charitable board, and didn't deny getting some early political support from him. Here's the exchange: She's repeated the charge again and again at different campaign stops [that Obama pals around with terrorists] citing the Times. What the Times article actually says, however, is this: "[T]he two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers." According to an Obama spokesman, the two men first met in 1995, when Obama was tapped to chair the board of the newly formed Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Ayers had been instrumental in creating the organization, which was to dispense grants for projects that would improve Chicago's schools. the McCain-Palin campaign’s attempts to sway voters – in ads and on the stump – with false and misleading statements about the relationship, which was never very close. Obama never “lied” http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/he_lied_about_bill_ayers.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago How many times did Obama vote 'present' as a state senator?
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Rock on Obama! Nurses across America support you. I for one will be honored to have you as my next President. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago The facts about Obama's votes against 'Born Alive' bills in Illinois.
there are already laws in Illinois, which Obama has said he supports, that protect these children even when they are born as the result of an abortion. Illinois compiled statute 720 ILCS 510/6 states that physicians performing abortions when the fetus is viable must use the procedure most likely to preserve the fetus' life; must be attended by another physician who can care for a born-alive infant; and must "exercise the same degree of professional skill, care and diligence to preserve the life and health of the child as would be required of a physician providing immediate medical care to a child born alive in the course of a pregnancy termination which was not an abortion." Failure to do any of the above is considered a felony his stated reasons for opposing "born-alive" bills have to do with preserving abortion rights, a position he is known to support and has never hidden. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_and_infanticide.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Snubbing Wounded Troops?
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| Posted over 4 years ago The Truth on Troop Support? A McCain TV ad says Obama "voted against funding our troops." He did, once. Every other time he voted in favor. He did – exactly once. Obama cast at least 10 votes for war-funding bills before voting against one last year, after Bush vetoed a version that contained a date for withdrawal from Iraq. says he "hasn't been to Iraq for years." He was headed there at the time the ad was released, however, and had been there in 2006. It says he "never held a single hearing on Afghanistan." It was the full Senate Foreign Relations Committee, not Obama's subcommittee, that had the hearings on this global hot spot, and Obama attended one of those. Over the same time period, McCain himself attended none of the Afghanistan hearings held by the Armed Services Committee on which he serves. Obama recently has expressed support for the troops involved in the surge, saying, for instance, at a February presidential debate, that "it is indisputable that we've seen violence reduced in Iraq. And that's a credit to our brave men and women in uniform."
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| Posted over 4 years ago Jerome Corsi's "The Obama Nation" is a mishmash of unsupported conjecture, half-truths, logical fallacies and outright falsehoods.
as a scholarly work, "The Obama Nation" does not measure up. We judge it to be what a hack journalist might call a "paste-up job," gluing together snippets from here and there without much regard for their truthfulness or accuracy. A comprehensive review of all the false claims in Corsi's book would itself be a book. some of Corsi's inaccuracies can be debunked with a simple Internet search. Corsi ignores evidence that doesn't fit his chosen thesis. In discussing the baseless notion that Obama was secretly a Muslim at some point in his life In fact, the entire third section of Corsi's book – titled "The Candidate Is the Message" – is a study in how to ignore evidence that doesn't fit. In one passage, Contrary to Corsi's claim, Obama's Web site is packed with details of what he proposes to do if elected. He lays out descriptions of his policy proposals, including tax cuts for most families and increases for those making more than $250,000 per year; a $150 billion, 10-year program to develop alternative energy sources and more efficient vehicles; a proposal to increase the size of the Army by 65,000 troops and another to create a public health insurance plan for those whose employers don't offer health coverage. Whether or not one agrees with them, Obama has indeed presented detailed plans for dozens of policies. It's hard to see how anyone writing a book on Obama could fail to acknowledge their existence. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Odinga connection...... [Corsi] devotes an entire chapter to violent uprisings in Kenya following a disputed presidential election in 2007. The link to Obama? During a visit to Kenya in 2006, Obama and his wife, Michelle, arranged to take an AIDS test to publicly demonstrate the test's safety. While there, Obama spoke to the assembled crowd. Raila Odinga, one of the two candidates running for president, was on the stage when Obama spoke. Corsi concludes that the event constituted an endorsement of Odinga. He goes on to attribute all the violence in Kenya to an elaborate Odinga plot.
Attempting to discredit Obama because of an association with unsavory people rather than with actual proof that Obama shares their views is an instance of a logical fallacy that philosophers call guilt-by-association. Corsi uses the technique to fill chapters three through seven. Logically, any argument should rise or fall on its own merits, not the reputation of the person making it. A logical fallacy – known as the "genetic fallacy" – occurs when someone rejects an argument based on its origins. The correctness of a claim should be judged by the relationship the claim has with the rest of the world. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Did Obama say we "are no longer a Christian nation"?
This is an example of how omitting a single word from an otherwise accurate quote can twist the meaning so completely as to reverse it. Saying that the U.S. is not "just" a Christian nation carries the sense that it is both a Christian nation and more: a nation of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and nonbelievers as well. Furthermore, any survey of religious beliefs held by Americans will show that to be a factually correct statement. However, what the authors of this and similar mass e-mails have chosen to omit is the word "just," converting Obama's factual description of America's diversity of religious beliefs to a statement that some interpret as anti-Christian. ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago That should be good for now.....I'll be back later. ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Great Job on the post!!!!
Gobama/Biden '08-'12 |
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| Posted over 4 years ago bullshit might get you to the top but it wont keep you there....
speak your mind..for those that matter dont mind and those that mind ..dont matter.. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago This forum is intended to dispell myths about Obama. Everything I have posted has been true. I will continue to do the same. My intentions always have and will remain to provide the Truth About Obama, thus the name of this forum. That is the sole purpose of this forum. It is not a place to bash either candidate, fight and argue with nurses about opinions, or be negative. This is a positive forum to shed light on the man who may be our next president. If you are an Obama supporter like myself, I urge you to ignore any negativity and lies that may find it's way here so as to keep the focus of this forum on its intended goal. Fortunately, this is a free country we live in, so if one must feel the need to be negative here, that is your free will, but know that your actions will not show you in a positive light. As I said earlier, I have chosen to submit information from factcheck as this appears to be a common reference for individuals across party lines. To all of my friends on nursinglink, you can find me here from now on (or at least until Obama wins)! ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago For those of you who are undecided or independent, I hope you will find this a useful resource in determining who you will vote for. Happy Reading! ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago A conservative group misleads voters mightily on Obama's tax plans for small businesses.
A conservative group called RightChange.com has spent $3 million running ads that largely criticize Obama and his tax plans. They're false:
RightChange.com, a 527 group out of North Carolina, is largely bankrolled by its president, Fred Eshelman, the CEO of a pharmaceutical research firm, who has contributed $2.7 million of the $3.8 million the group has raised this year. According to OpenSecrets.org, Eshelman has also contributed $2,300 to Sen. John McCain's campaign. Two of the other three members of its board of directors are GOP state legislators in North Carolina. RightChange.com has spent just over $3 million so far. What has Prante so upset? Well, first, the 62 percent number is just plain wrong. No business – of any size whatsoever – would get hit with such a rate. And "many small businesses" wouldn't face a rate anywhere close to that. Most, in fact, wouldn't see their taxes go up at all. The ad compares taxes for corporations and small businesses based on the assumption that some small-business owners file their taxes as individuals, not corporations. But the overwhelming majority of small-business owners that do so wouldn't face a tax increase under Obama's plan, because it proposes no tax hikes for anyone earning less than $200,000 a year, or $250,000 for married couples. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/right_change_is_wrong.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago More on Obama's Tax Plan and Small Businesses: Another ad on RightChange.com's site, titled "Fair," features a couple that owns a kitchenware shop. The woman says, "We started off with a dream and lots of debt. We struggled, but we're making it." She contends that Obama would "punish small businesses" like hers with that 62 percent rate. ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago McCain calls Obama's refundable tax credits "welfare," but calls his own "reform."
The McCain campaign has taken to denigrating some of Obama's tax proposals as "welfare" rather than tax cuts. And it continues to mislead about who would see a tax increase.
As we've said any number of times, what Obama proposes would not raise taxes on any "hard-working families" unless they make more than $250,000 a year, a very small fraction of families. Independent analysis has shown than 95 percent of families with children would see federal income taxes go down. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_welfare.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Thanks for going to all the trouble to put this all here. I didn't even know some of this stuff! Kudo's! "Softly. deftly, music shall caress you. Feel it, hear it, secretly possess you...." |
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| Posted over 4 years ago "Joe" would actually benefit under Obama's plans: As for the star of this ad, Joe Wurzelbacher (a.k.a. Joe the Plumber): He told ABC News, among other news organizations, that he makes much less than $250,000, in which case he'd get a tax cut under Obama's plan. But, he said, he hopes to make that kind of money one day. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_welfare.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Are Barack Obama and Dick Cheney cousins?
Yep. But they are quite distant relatives.
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I've had some people mention to me that they'll be printing some of this info to share with friends and family. That is a fantastic idea! I encourage everyone who wants Obama to win to do so.....especially if you will be doing any canvassing. It always helps to have some non-partisan facts in hand when you're trying to win the vote! Let's keep the momentum going!!!!! Only 7 days left, but these are 7 very crucial days. ~ Melissa |
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A misleading NRA ad claims Obama voted "to deny citizens the right of self-protection."
the NRA goes too far when it claims that he voted "to deny citizens the right of self-protection" generally. He did no such thing. The vote would have had no effect at all in places that didn't have local gun bans in the first place. [Even] Had the bill the NRA refers to not passed, nothing would have changed for DeMar or others like him. He would not have been subject to anything more than paying the penalty for violating the local handgun ban. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_rifle_associations_true_story.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago girl u kno ur stuff!!! lol u should be a spokesperson for obama u have really cleared the air about alot of stuf which proves anytime a really good person in office try to run for president and has a chance of winning hands down they wil do whatever they can to bash him. Good |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Did Obama request a $3 million 'overhead projector,' as McCain claimed?
Obama did seek a $3 million earmark, but it was not for the sort of 'overhead projector' commonly found in classrooms or offices. It would have replaced the Adler Planetarium's projector, last upgraded in 1969.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_request_a_3_million_overhead.html ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Are three former Fannie Mae executives "economic advisers" to Obama?
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| Posted over 4 years ago Thank God for factcheck.org !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is there anything else that people have been wondering about? Any other lies about Obama that I am missing? ~ Melissa |
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| Posted over 4 years ago FACTCHECK.ORG
He tells Social Security recipients their money would now be in the stock market under McCain's plan. False. By Brooks Jackson | factcheck.org Sep 20, 2008 | Updated: 6:20 p.m. ET Sep 20, 2008 FACTCHECK.ORG
Summary That's not true. The plan proposed by President Bush and supported by McCain in 2005 would not have allowed anyone born before 1950 to invest any part of their Social Security taxes in private accounts. All current retirees would be covered by the same benefits they are now. Obama would have been correct to say that many workers under age 58 would have had some portion of their Social Security benefits affected by the current market turmoil – if they had chosen to participate. And market drops would be a worry for those who retire in future decades. But current retirees would not have been affected. Analysis Obama, Sept. 20: And I'll protect Social Security, while John McCain wants to privatize it. Without Social Security half of elderly women would be living in poverty - half. But if my opponent had his way, the millions of Floridians who rely on it would've had their Social Security tied up in the stock market this week. Millions would've watched as the market tumbled and their nest egg disappeared before their eyes. Millions of families would've been scrambling to figure out how to give their mothers and fathers, their grandmothers and grandfathers, the secure retirement that every American deserves. So I know Senator McCain is talking about a "casino culture" on Wall Street - but the fact is, he's the one who wants to gamble with your life savings. That's untrue. All current retirees would be covered by exactly the same Social Security benefits they are now under what the Obama campaign likes to call the "Bush-McCain privatization plan," which Bush pushed for unsuccessfully in 2005. Disappearing nest eggs? Obama's reference to "casino culture," disappearing "nest eggs" and gambling with "your life savings" are also misleading exaggerations. Only a little over one-fourth of any workers' total Social Security taxes could have been invested (a maximum of 4 percent of taxable wages, out of the total custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=31...">15.3 per cent now paid, split equally between worker and employer.) Speculation in individual stocks would not have been permitted. Workers would have had a choice of a few, broadly diversified stock or bond funds. While McCain has voted in favor creating private Social Security accounts in the past, and endorsed Bush's 2005 proposal (which never came to a vote in Congress), he is not making a strong push for them as part of his campaign. In fact, a search for the term "Social Security" on the McCain-Palin Web site brings up the following: "No documents were found." Footnote: When we contacted the Obama campaign for comment, spokesman Tommy Vietor defended Obama's remarks as accurate: Vietor: You don't have to be retired to rely on Social Security. Millions of people who will one day retire rely on Social Security as they plan their future. Senator Obama's bottom line is absolutely true. If McCain got his way and we had private accounts . . . people who are relying on that money for their retirement would be in a very difficult situation. We would grant Vietor a point if Obama had made any mention of workers being fearful of their future retirement (although this would apply only to those who had chosen to participate in private accounts, and not to everybody.) But Obama did not say that. Instead, he referred to "elderly women" in danger of poverty. He spoke of families "scrambling to figure out how to give their mothers and fathers, their grandmothers and grandfathers" a secure retirement – not to families worrying about their own retirement. If Obama did not mean what he said to be a reference to current retirees, he could say so clearly and amend his words. Reprinted with permission from Factcheck.org. Redneck I is...but bigot I taint! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago FACT CHECK: Obama charges against McCain debatable
But the charge is debatable — McCain has several ideas that are different than Bush's policy, which he touched on as recently as a Sunday interview on NBC's "Meet the Press." "Do I respect President Bush? Of course I respect him," McCain said. "But I pointed out we were on the wrong track in a whole lot of ways, including a $10 trillion deficit, including saying we got to rein in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and propose legislation to try to fix it before that triggered the housing collapse, including today when I'm saying they should be going out and buying up these mortgages and giving people mortgages that they can afford rather than bailing out the banks." The Obama campaign says the key word of Obama's statement is "major," and the differences that McCain points to are minor details. Here are some of what McCain's campaign sees as his biggest disagreements with Bush on economic policy: — McCain wants to use half of the $700 billion financial rescue package that Bush signed into law to buy up troubled mortgages at full face value and then negotiate easier loan terms. — McCain has called for the resignation of Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Christopher Cox because he has "betrayed the public's trust." Bush appointed Cox in 2005 and has stood by him. — On taxes, McCain is calling for a 10 percent cut in the corporate tax rate and doubling of the child exemption beyond the tax cuts that Bush has already passed. — McCain has proposed sweeping changes to the health care system, replacing existing income tax breaks for worker's health coverage with refundable tax credits of up to $5,000. Bush had proposed replacing income tax breaks with a standard deduction for health insurance, but it was not as large a proposal as McCain's and it died in Congress. — McCain differs with Bush in several ways over energy policy, points that his campaign argues would have a big impact on the economy. Among them: McCain supports a mandatory cap-and-trade approach to cutting greenhouse gases, which allows industries to either reduce their pollution or to purchase credits from companies exceeding pollution targets. — McCain wants to eliminate taxes on unemployment benefits. The Obama campaign dismisses those differences as small and says McCain has the same central economic philosophy as Bush. McCain, for example, supports Bush's tax cuts and his free-trade policies. Obama acknowledges some of McCain's breaks with Bush, including over the issue of harsh questioning of military detainees. "But when it comes to the economy ... the plain truth is that John McCain has stood with this president every step of the way," he charges. "Voting for the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy that he once opposed. Voting for the Bush budgets that spent us into debt. Calling for less regulation twenty-one times just this year." Redneck I is...but bigot I taint! |



