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Posted over 5 years ago I am currently working at a nursing home that is going to the no bed rail policy seeing its a law, becuase it’s a restraint. I understand that this is a restraint and that restraining a resident without doctor’s orders is illegal, but what about the saftey of a resdient? Right now we put the bed rails down, position the resident with the wedges, and pillows, and then put one of the big mats down on the floor. I understand that one of the issues with them being left up that its a restraint but also that if a resident tries to get out of their bed they have a further fall if they try to go over them. What happens if they fall out of their bed now? Yeah, that mat will protect them but they could hit their head on the bed, on something around the bed as they fall, try to catch their fall and get hurt, or try to get up after. I guess I am just wondering what everyone else is thinking… |
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| Posted over 5 years ago We have all different kinds of bedrails at my nh. Most of them are illegal. That is true that some of the res could fall out of bed and hurt themselves but probably what will happen is all of the beds will have to be low to the ground beds. Also the res/pts will have to be checked on more frequently. There are a couple of beds at my facility that are so shotty that the beds won't go up or down. They're in a position that really kills your back when I change the res, I have to bend over the bed. You think the facility would give them a new bed? Hell no! It's all about money. Facilities don't want to be sued for restraining a res/pt just like they won't replace a crappy bed if they know that the pt's family won't complain. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago What state are you located in? In some states you can have one rail up. Many need one rail to help pull themselves up. Tw rails up is considered a restraing. I worked in one LTC that had all the beds low. I mean very low. One LTC had a few of the residents on a mattress on the floor. Not sure how legal that is. There have been many deaths from residents climbing over the bed rails or getting caught in the rail and strangled. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Actually I had a friend who works in a hospital that had a pt fall out of bed. The side rails were down and the bed was at a normal position but the pt requested that the light be turned off and the door shut. He got out of bed ( I guess he was slightly confused ), fell and smacked his head right open. My friend felt so bad but she did follow the law.... |
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| Posted over 5 years ago having no siderails is just asking for trouble-the LTC where I worked had a habit of placing high risk patients on a mat on the floor. They would roll all over the place. I always thought this was bizarre |
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| Posted over 5 years ago When I worked in a convalescent home. We had a couple patients that we had to put the siderails up on. One patient we had to put the 2 side rails up, because she sundown's at night, and she broke her hip, and leg at home, even with both side rails up. I still had to watch her, because she would try to climb over the side rails with her bad leg, she always call out that she want to get out of here and go home. I always reassure her that her niece is taking care of her home. I have to keep reorientating her. I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago In most of the places here, staff will contact our office for an order for the rails to be up from the doctor. Keeping mind all of the alternatives, and safety of the patients. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, worn out and screaming "Woo-hoo"!!! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago First there needs to be a siderail assessment done. There are ways to write M.D. orders that allow for siderails. I work in LTC. Alot of residents did fine with half side rails. " up prn per resident request" Write the order : "per patient request "if they are alert. "needed for repositioning". You can also discuss the issue with the families and have them sign a waiver. When our facility first started implementing the no siderail rule, we all freaked out. It really wasn't so bad. We had a few that fell, but they would have fell with or without rails. Bed alarms work wonders if staff responds in a timely manner. The resident doesnt like the noise either, so for the most part they lay back down to turn it off.The really confused folks have low beds, about 4 inches off the floor with mats. If sundowners wanted to walk at h.s. we let them walk. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago cdnurse said: Low beds = more employee back injuries i would think. I had to leave a job i loved as a CNA due to a back injury 10 yrs ago. I can see both sides of this issue, so makes me wonder where the happy medium is |
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| Posted over 5 years ago If the facility will pay for them, there are electric beds that go all the way to the floor. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago LOW BEDS =BACK INJURIES.That is how I hurt myself.Whoever thought up this law is a nitwit.Sometimes I think medicine is getting too political.As for the beds themselves if god forbid they do work the cords get in the way.Plus when the beds are down the patient still gets hurt getting out of them. Have you guessed yet I don't like this law.You cannot even put a seatbelt on a wheel chair or a lap table. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago bedrails has been used by a lot of my residents in turning and repositioning themselves but last night i was really horrified when an order from the state demanded the policy "NO BEDRAIL FACILITY." i know the consequences that no bedrails, the residents had been denied the opportunity to be independent in simple turning or repostioning, there will be more falls inspite of the precautions. families are upset because residents feels they are deprived. staff will have back injuries, more staff needs to be hired because they need to reposition heavy residents, nurse have to monitor residents every hour. i am aware that some residents are so confused and can get hurt with siderails but what we must assess individual residents' need. not all in the facility are confused but all of them have this to help them get up. in doing nursing care we assess, then look for options. i am aware that the states are doing their jobs making sure that health care facilities are all safe but it the staff of the facility who are dealing with them everyday. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Try having a patient with seizure act. in one of these.Or better yet a tube feeder with a cath. who is over 180lbs.There is not even enogh room for the patient much less the wedges or pillows it takes to postion them. And the alarms that are pinned to the pat./red.are not loud enough or are to loud and scare others. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Thankfully we have not gone to the no side rail policy in my facility and I don't think we ever will. We complete a side rail assessment on every resident then get a doctors order for the side rail if it will be used as a restraint, however if the resident can roll from side to side using the side rail it is not a restraint but an enabler and the order is written as so |
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| Posted over 5 years ago the no bedrail policy really made a lot of commotion to the facility. Complaints flooded the administrator's office. decisions are made to write an order for enabler to help with their repositionong. |
