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Posted over 4 years ago Ok- I volunteer at a local hospital and love the dept I'm in. Problem is I never seen a profession(and I know it happens in other professions, but I haven't seen it) in which people really treat you a certain way according to rank. I mean damn- if you are a housekeeper, meal provider, volunteer,or anything else low on the totem pole, you get snubbed and ignored. You don't even start to get any recognition unless you are a Nurse Tech.- and they get snubbed too. I mean damn. I felt like going to another dept, but I have a feeling this is the general consensus across the board. Plus I'm not going to run, I'm developing a "stickittoit "attitude and some thick skin since this is the real "nurse world" Why is this so??? I never treat people this way. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I don't know where you volunteer, but this is a terrible example of how many places treat staff. Many of us here, however do not treat others in this manner and I refuse to treat others in this way. I was a travel nurse for over 10 years and was treated exactly this poorly in several facilities I will not name. Even though I am an RN, had more experience and more years to my credit than many in the facility. I was an outsider and these facilities got the reputation of treating travelers badly to the point, they couldn't get a traveler to work for them any longer. So, you see, often it turns around and bites them in the butt. |
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I love this Avatar - "healer'. That says a lot. What you said is true, about people being treated a certain way according to their 'rank'. Recently I went through orientation for a new job, and Day 1 was the usual parade of suits banging the corporate drums. The Public Relations rep started talking about patient surveys (don't get me started about Press Ganey scores - ggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrr) and how her office gets calls every day with patient complaints. Then she forwards the complaint to the "appropriate dept." This company preaches a good sermon on taking ownership of problems, and teamwork, and having happy customers. All things I agree with. So with that in mind, I asked this PR rep when the last time she cleaned a bathroom to resolve a complaint, or helped serve meal trays because a floor was short-staffed and patients were complaining about getting trays late, or even just went to a unit to help answer phones? She didn't like the question at all. Too bad. Where I come from, if you are on the clock, you are there to work, and nobody is too good to do anything. So just keep doing what you are doing, healer. You can be a leader by example. Sometimes you have to shame people in to change. If they see you do things that you don't really have to do, it bothers them that they didn't do it. When they see you interacting with everybody equally, the barriers start to break down. What do you do as a volunteer? I have thought about doing that, but not sure in what capacity. Might be fun. Take care! Walter |
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| Posted over 4 years ago We would absolutely trip over ourselves when we had a volunteer! They were like gold! But, when I was a junior volunteer and a candy stripper, I was treated the same way. Walt, I actually did see a DON and a QC manager scrub a room so we could admit a patient. It was a MRSA room and the three of us along with a wonderful CNA scrubbed down a room remover the curtains, hang new ones and since I was doing infection control, they didn't even have a problem with washing the bedrails, the TV remote you name it. All this because housekeeping was short! My suspicion Healer, is the longer you do "hang in there" the more people will value and appreciate you. Please do hang in, there is a special place in heaven for those who help the sick for the sheer love of it! Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that stood it's ground.
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| Posted over 4 years ago Whoops! Candy STRIPER! I was never a candy stripper! LOL Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that stood it's ground.
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| Posted over 4 years ago smoxignal says ...
The truth comes out ... "freudian slip", lol |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Hang in there! Those crabby people have a serious case of the gumpies..................it will get better. Just smile and continue being sweet to everyone. The patients are the important ones..........they deserve to see a happy smiling face. They need you to smile because the crabby person probably just left their room. We only have one heart, take care of it! Angie |
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| Posted over 4 years ago You know it is sad but true, that most nurses are bi*&#es. I have been a nurse for a long time and I have meet some nice nurses, but I unfortunetly would have to say that most are really mean until you prove yourself, after that it is all okay. I hate that part of nursing!!! I do my very best to be as nice as I can to everyone, regardless of rank. It takes us all to care for the patient, and that is what we are there to do, not treat each other as enemies. Why is this such a problem do you suppose??? I have my thoughts but would love to hear others. Do you think this contributes to the nursing shortage? I sure do. I WENT TO SINCLAIR COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND CAPITAL UNIVERSITY IN THE LATE 1980'S AND EARLY 1990'S. LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU FELLOW NURSING STUDENTS. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago respect is a two way street and those who expect it should also give it.... it takes teamwork to get most things done.....
speak your mind..for those that matter dont mind and those that mind ..dont matter.. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Yes respect is a two way street and I always give respect until someone abuses me and they lose my respect it takes a very long time to get my respect back. Once you become a nurse frumpster, if you do, you'll understand what we're all saying. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I am a CMA and worked in a hospital and clinic....I have witnessed these kinds of treatment...I think its a shame and that people should work harder to be kind and courteous to each other ...I know what you are talking about dmazement but even a statement like that.....'Once you become a nurse fi you do you will understandwhat were all saying" is just proving a point out to all that everyone should work harder in this field to be kind and courteous and stop trampling on each other. speak your mind..for those that matter dont mind and those that mind ..dont matter.. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I've seen it too, and i's not just by rank. Day shift complains about and snubs the night shift, full timers complain about part timers, etc. But it realy depends on where you work. and the individual employees. Some units work as a team, a family.... but they are few and far between! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I hate this type of thing and it happens in every proffesion. I have worked in many and have been on both sides. My own philosophy and it seems to work is to never expect anyone to do what you would not do yourself. So if there is trash to be emptied, I empty it. If there are supplies to be put away, beds to be made, whatever I do it. Then no matter what, everyone works together as a team. When management does what they expect of their staff, then staff follows along. It is respect and teamwork. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago great input, you sure DO need thick skin when interacting with Doctors A busy RN is here |
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| Posted over 4 years ago frumpster65 says ...
according to your profile, it says you're considering nursing. How am I supposed to know you're a CNA? There was absolutely no discourteous intent. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago dmazment says ...
I hear you, friend. You try to be nice to some people, and they just assume it means you are a doormat. It use to really bother me, the amount of crap we have to put with for the privilege of being a nurse. Now, it is like getting caught in the rain. You can only get so wet. Frumspter65, I don't think any disrespect was meant to you. You are right, it is a 2 way street, and it takes teamwork. Problem is, some people in healthcare (just like any other job) make a career out of making people miserable. "Teamwork" to them means that you do their job for them. Respect is a one-way street for them: if you stand up to their bullying they take it as disrespect. Bullies will try to make you look bad so they look good. The original post here was from a volunteer's perspective on the whole system. Wonder if CEOs ever see things from that perpsective? Usually the larger the company, the worse the problem as far as R.H.I.P. (rank has its privileges). A hospital I work at now is a small community hospital in a small town. I love it. R.N.s , L.P.N.s, and C.N.A.s work closely together, and everybody knows everybody: housekeeping, dietary, nursing staff. We share coffee, baby pics, food, and the workload. Patient care is the focus. Wish it was that way everywhere. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago People can be nasty for a variety of reasons, mostly known only to them. If you remain confident in yourself and know you are doing your job and doing it well, other people's attitudes will fade into the distance. It would be great if everyone worked as a team; it would also be a miracle...human nature gets in the way. Patients are the priority anyway...if they are happy, then you can be happy knowing you did your job. I worked with an LPN who had her nose so far up in the air that she was in danger of drowning when it rained. She had an attitude toward most of her co-workers and even worse, her patients. She refused to help patients who were not assigned to her during a code. She was too good to interact with me until I became Unit Clerk and she needed me, in a way. Her problem...not mine. BTW, I know about those Press Ganey surveys...they were kept in a notebook in the nurse's lounge. Monthly meetings: loyalty, customer service, we were all lacking in skills, etc. Never a pat on the back. That's life and this was in a small, community hospital. Clique, clique, clique. A Proud Redneck Lovin' the Country Life |
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| Posted over 4 years ago dmazement..I know thats what it says on my profile and I wish there had been CMA to choose from but there wwasnt..I am considering going back for my LPN but right now it is not feasible. No offense taken whatsoever... speak your mind..for those that matter dont mind and those that mind ..dont matter.. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I think I am the opposite from "THE HEALER" (love it by the way) I am in the service and now I have the mind set that everywhere is a ranking system. I was coming into nursing actually expecting this was I wrong? Go Navy, Smooth Sailing! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago JUDLEERN says ...
I love it the way you just come right out with it! Really, I mean that. Being a male, I get left out of the line of fire most of the time, but oh my God women can be vicious to each other. The young/pretty/ and /or smart R.N. is always going to have a bullseye on her back. No wonder some just say to heck with it and go do something else. As to the WHY of the issue, I have no clue. I end up being the peacemaker. It does not matter to me who I work with, so if Mary hates Susy, I'll go work with Susy to keep them separated. It will never change. Just something to be aware of and figure out how you want to deal with it. It can be entertaining at times, too! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Sounds like this is a widespread problem, although, thankfully, it is not quite outwardly evident where I work; I see that there are differences in how the different shifts operate and treat one another, but I guess that is part of the dynamics. I see that some people are very serious and feel like they "don't have enough time to chat", but I also see what volunteers and CNAs do for the patients and, quite frankly, I certainly appreciate it, as do the patients! I think it is especially important for someone to make volunteers feel welcome and valued; I fee fortunate to work with the team that I do. I view the mission as a Health Care Team mission, where every player is important, so as long as everyone is willing to help others to accomplish the care goals, then it is a good shift (some days, granted, are better than others!). Please hang in there:) |
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| Posted over 4 years ago Regardless of how you are treated or other staff are treated, remember you can always step outside the routine and treat everyone with respect. Maybe if you start then it will catch on. Maybe by just saying a simple hello to the food service tech, will jump start someone else to do the same thing. I worked for a hosptial, and I can say I was lucky to have a wonderful group of people to work with. We were a big family and it was very cool. Always stay true to your good nature and eventually it will get better. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I work 12 hour shifts in the ER, so I know how stressful it can be. And, yes sometimes those of higher rank can come off as rude or arrogant;however, I just don't let it bother me. I know that I am an important part of the ER, and they need me. Our ER team is pretty awesome though. WE spend so much time saving lives together that we all respect one another pretty much. Even our docs are awesome. Hang in there and remember you are important! A good man loves other. A better man loves God. A great man loves God and lives well among others! I miss you daddy!
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