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Poll: How do you feel about nurses and doctors who smoke?

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Poll: How do you feel about nurses and doctors who smoke?

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I've been a nurse for 30 years, and a smoker for 43 years.  But  I've been human for 59 years.   The demands of this kind of profession are already one of the most stressful.   I respectfully decline the additional imposition of being perfect.   And I really really resent  the implication that if one is a nurse or a physician that smoking is any less addictive. 

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Both my parents smoked, my mom smoked through all her pregnancies, right up into labor and delivery.


I smoked in my teens. I quit  21 years ago. I still crave one on occasion. I just chose each time to not smoke.


It was not easy to quit, everyone in my family smoked. My husband smoked when we met, and still smokes today.


He thinks its great I quit. He says he wants to quit, but the patches caused side-effects and Wellbutrin did not work.


Chantix has its problems and I am concerned about the side- effects with it. A carton of cigarrettes is now $35-$40.


How do I feel about nurses and doctors who smoke? I am sad that they are addicted and wish I had an answer to the problem.


I do not look down on them, but I know they most likely wish they could quit for many reasons. Smokers are the new pariahs. It is now politically


correct to hate them and give them a hard time. I guess we ran out of other classes of people to denigrate.


 

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It's not healthy for us nurses and doctors to be seen smoking.People especially the patients have great respect w/ us.We know in the first place what are the effects of smoking in our body especifically the lungs.How can we teach everyone if we ourselves don't have discipline to stop smoking? 

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I smoke and I have tried to quit a million times and each time I do I have something at work/home happen that stresses me out and I go back to smoking I dont smoke very much and I dont smoke around my cliants and 99% of them dont even know I smoke.  I am very aware that the smell is as anoying as the smoke its self..... I currently do NOT Smoke at work. at my old job I would during breaks because it was incredibally stressful.. I know it seems stupid for a nurse to smoke, but we are human and make our decisions, even if we know the conscquences  in the long run .


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its a personal choice


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I am not a smoker and I will not preach to anyone that does.  It's their decision to smoke or not.  but I agree with a few of the other comments about smelling like an old ash tray while attenting to patients.  I worked at a clinic in which one of the nurses would have a smoke at lunch and came back with the worst butt breath.  If you're going to smoke, be kind to the people around you and eat a breath mint or two.  Your patients and co workers will thank-you.

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I am a smoker and I agree with you saying that a breath mint or two would help.  I try to be considerate and not smoke around nonsmokers. I use breath mints and before going back inside or into a facility, I try to spray my clothes down with a fabric freshner.  On the other hand, there are also people who eat onions and/or garlic for lunch, then come back to see patients and to tell you the truth, they could use a mint or two also.  Basically smokers are not the only ones that could do with a breath mint or two

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I am a smoker and I agree with you saying that a breath mint or two would help.  I try to be considerate and not smoke around nonsmokers. I use breath mints and before going back inside or into a facility, I try to spray my clothes down with a fabric freshner.  On the other hand, there are also people who eat onions and/or garlic for lunch, then come back to see patients and to tell you the truth, they could use a mint or two also.  Basically smokers are not the only ones that could do with a breath mint or two



I agree that it isn't just the smokers who need breath mints. Martini tries to be considerate and not smoke around non-smokers. As a non-smoker myself, who has never smoked, not even to "try it" as a kid, my biggest complaint about smokers is that most of them are not considerate of us non-smokers. Blowing smoke at us, not being careful of their ashes ect.  At work my complaint is different. going out to smoke is supposed to be part of your breaks and lunch. Smokers go out many times to smoke and then also want their breaks and lunch. This makes the non-smokers upset at the unequal treatment.


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There are too many other healthy things that can be done when stressed, instead of smoking, like stretching, reading, listening to music, and etc.  My co-workers (several of them) cough like they're gonna cough their lungs out but still would spend their break smoking.  These co-workers as far as I know has been having cough ever since I met them.


I think the smoke is working on their body, they get relaxed, but they also get kicked in their lungs. 

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It amazes me that smokers complain a lot about things that are their choice. When it is raining or in the winter when there is snow coming down, they complain that there is no place for them to go to smoke...........there is a place, it is called outside. So what if it is cold or rainy, it is your choice to smoke.


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Actually Nurse_John if I want to smoke, I don't mind going out in the snow or the rain.  If you want to smoke bad enough, you put on a coat, carry an umbrella or just suffer the cold and rain.  I don't think smokers should have extra consideration just because we have a bad habit.  On the other hand, I don't think the non-smokers should hold themselves above us as being special because they don't smoke.  I admit that not all people do, but there are plenty that let us know that they seem to think they are a lot better because they don't smoke.


Now that the government is trying to get it so that the military personnel can't smoke, they have raised taxes, supposedly to pay for all the damage smokers do to themselves, start trauma centers, etc., I think that the best thing to do is to just outlaw cigarettes and tobacco and that way no one could smoke.  That would solve the problem for smokers (no tabacco available) and non-smokers (wouldn't have to c/o smokers taking extra breaks, the bad breath, the smell on clothes, the damage, the damage that they are doing to themselves, etc.).  Of course that could make all the stockholders in the tobacco companies upset, including some of you because if you check your 401K's you will see that a lot of the investments are in Reynolds and other tobacco companies. It would close down cigarette plants and tobacco growers so we would have a lot of unemployment (more than now).  There are two sides to every coin.  We need to see if we want heads or tails.

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Outlawing something. does not make it go away. Crack is outlawed, but people still use it, cocaine is outlawed, but people still use it. It would be the same with smoking. Besides as you mentined, there are a lot of investments in tobacco companies. And as everyone knows, money talks. The money would be spread around and no one in politics would go against them. Not if they wanted money for reelection.


I do not think that nonsmokers think they are better than smokers, but with all the knowledge of the bad health effects of smoking, many of us think we are better off than smokers.....health wise.


Smoking is a choice, so if you want to smoke please do, just be considerate of us that do not smoke........................and for the people who choose not to smoke, please be considerate of those that do.


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Nurse_John: If you have any good ways for those of us that are trying to quit smoking, please speak up.  I have tried patches, gum, mints, Chantex, etc.  I find that the places that I really want to smoke at are in the car and at home.  All suggestions welcome.


PS: going cold turkey only makes most people want to commit irrational acts that rank right up there with PMS (permissable manslaughter).

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MARTINI i KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU FEEL


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Hey, I onlly smoke every now and again.  I am one of those people who never got addicted to it.  However, we are all people.  It doesn't mean just because you are a nurse or a doctor that it will be easy to quit.  I would never put someone down because they smoke.  I think it is great if health care professionals provide a good example, but I am rooting for all of you who want to or are trying to quit.  Stress can do it for you I know.  A little tip: try exercising at least 30 minutes a day to cut down on stress.  This can do wonders for you and will help in letting go of a bad habit.  I am rooting for everyone! 


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I think it is totally hypocritical of a nurse / doctor to smoke.



Why?. I don't smoke and never did, nor that I personally like it but everybody has likes and dislikes. I don't judge nobody for  smoking, drinking, eating or whatever else they need to relax and enjoy life. Not all people are the same and some do need to smoke to get rid off stress or may be they do it just for pleasure. Nobody is allowed to smoke in public places anyway, so we, the non smokers, have nothing to complain about.

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I am a smoker and do my best not to smoke at work. I think it smells terrible and I really do not want my patients to smell it on me. I started smoking because it supposedly made me "cool". How uncool is that. I have tried a few times to quit and did once for almost a year, but picked it back up. Like any addiction I justify and rationalize it and tell myself, "i'll quit tomorrow".


I have the Rx chantex, but have heard so many horror stories of depression and suicidal thoughts while on it that I am now to scared to try it. I am prone to depression so I really have to be careful with stuff like this. My husband who is not prone to depression is even to scared to try it. Anyone out there tried it?



 Yes, i have taken it Before( the suicide recall on TV) and i found the results very effective. It didn't make me feel depressed and definantly not suicidal. My reaction to smoke was as if i was a non smoker and i just didn't want to smoke. When i first started taking it , i smoked of course but not as usual. The more you continue to take it , the less you want  a cigarette. And if you do smoke while you are taking Chantix, you will feel kind of sick( lightheaded)

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If a doctor or nurse smokes and counsels other NOT to smoke.. the advice canot be dismissed on a logical basis... the message is just as true and valid.. to discount what they say is a logical fallacy.. specifically ad hominem tu quoque. 


 


I think I will stepoutside and fire up a cigar........ mmmmmm Macanudo......

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I think that as nurses we know the risks. and at times we regret smoking but as they say addiction does not go away over night .  I am a smoker and I am very private about it  because I work with a home health care agency.   NONE of my clients know I smoke, and I am happy to keep it that way.. though my family and a few of my friendsdo know.  I feel that as a home health worker if my clients knew i smoked they would not give me a chance.. I love my job and I feel I am very good at it.


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Sevoflurane:  what you say is logical, but not how many patients think.  I am a non-smoker, and I have had many patients or family members complain to me about the nurse who lectures them about smoking while their clothing reeks of it.  Likewise I have had people in the community complain to me about "fat nurses" who educate about diets they clearly don't follow themselves.  We do set an example for our communities, and many of us set a poor one.


Swimmnutt:  I think more of your patients know you are a smoker than you would think.  Tobacco smoke clings to clothing and creates a reek that is unmistakable.  Often, I have to send those of my students who smoke to their cars to freshen up before I can allow them on the floor.  Often, I have to send them back for a second go round.

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Sevo:  When you post things its so complicated it gives me a headache.  Not everybody here went to an Ivy league sshool and knows Latin or whatever gibberish you speak. Some of us went to public Jr college for ADN.    How about this for a reason why its offensive to smoke around patients?  Here ya go in a nutshell:  It stinks and nobody wants to be around stinky people.  Somebimes the truth hurts.


We only have one heart, take care of it!

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phew!


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Sevo:  When you post things its so complicated it gives me a headache.  Not everybody here went to an Ivy league sshool and knows Latin or whatever gibberish you speak. Some of us went to public Jr college for ADN.    How about this for a reason why its offensive to smoke around patients?  Here ya go in a nutshell:  It stinks and nobody wants to be around stinky people.  Somebimes the truth hurts.


 


 


 



Ivy League school?? Now that is FUNNY...I am an LPN, ADN, BSN,MSN.. from COMMUNITY COLLEGES.. and PUBLIC STATE UNIVERISTIES.... mostly financed by the military in the form of the GI Bill or the  Military Health Professions Scholorship Program.... As for Latin.. I was an Altar boy when the Mass was in latin..

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I quit smoking 16 years ago.  Now, I chew a lot of gum.  I get flack for fricken chewing gum, not bubble gum, just gum.  I frequently lie to people on the phone, and tell them I'm eating, because I get less crap than if you say gum.   I try to chew after I eat for that 'minty fresh' breath, and toward the end of the shift.  I had someone at work that continuously busted my chops for chewing gum.  She was a smoker, one day while she was sneaking out to the parking lot to smoke (our entire campus is smokefree), I loudly went to the window and said, I think I'll call security on 'L', she can give up the smoking, and I'll give up the gum.   Well someone told her I said that (thank god, LOL), and she has never busted my chops about the darn gum again.  I chew my gum, and she smokes, and now we both are happy.

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I feel like, what ever....because who am I to judge.  I think sometime people are to quick to judge others, when they shouldn't be at all.....especially when you're in the health care field.  No I don't smoke, and I am not for it.  I have to say I am not going to judge one for it, I am sure there are bad habits in which I should/need to quit that are not the best for me.  So maybe people should think before they judge, just a thought.

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I think it is up to the person, should they say anything to the patients while they have smokes in their pocket, NO...


It takes 50,000pks lit simutaneously to get any carcinogen from second hand smoke.   Anything can kill you in large quantities so what is the difference....


Its a great calming factor. 

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Back in the day, it was my job as a candy striper to empty all the ashtrays in the patient rooms.  Later as a Unit Secretary, we had a doctor, a cardiologist, who would bring us donuts every Sunday and sit in the nurse's station and smoke with all the nurses.


Times have changed huh?  I regrettably am a smoker   .  I quit for 11 days last year.  Then my daughter came home!  (LOL, not her fault, mine of course)


Anyway, I am going to quit or at least try my best on January 1st.  I have asthma, I can't breathe and am disgusted with myself.  I hide from my co-workers and hate that I smell like smoke.  I especially feel bad around the kids at school, if I smell.  Due to the asthma, I can't cover it up with perfume, because it sets me off coughing too.


When I first started Nursing School I thought "how can I be a nurse and smoke?"  Then I saw many of my friends actually started smoking in Nursing School! 


I am disgusted with myself, as a nurse I feel like a hypocrite.  I don't think we should smoke, but what can I say?


 


Good luck as I know it is hard to do.  I stopped a decade ago and still think about having one most everyday.  Having two young children is one of the things that keep me away from it.  I always think of myself as a smoker that just has not smoked for >10 years; like an ETOH that admits that to themselves everyday.  Cheers to your success.


 


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CATGIRL:


 


I don't know where you got your fact about how much 2nd hand smoke does damage but here's mine:


Secondhand Smoke: Damage in Mere Minutes
Just 30 Minutes of Secondhand Smoke Damages the Blood Vessels of Healthy Nonsmokers
By Kelli Miller Stacy

WebMD Health News
Reviewed by Elizabeth Klodas, MD, FACC
 

April 28, 2008 -- Just 30 minutes in a smoky room can cause profound blood vessel injury in healthy young adults, greatly increasing the risk of cardiovascular disease, according to a new study published in the May 6 issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology.


The findings add to the growing body of evidence that suggests that there is no risk-free level of secondhand smoke. Secondhand smoke, also called environmental tobacco smoke, contains an array of harmful chemicals, including nicotine, which have been shown to increase one’s risk for cardiovascular disease. Exposure to such smoke causes upwards of 50,000 heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers every year in the United States, making it a major public health concern.  


Study author Christian Heiss, MD, currently affiliated with the University RWTH Aachen in Germany, and colleagues in California evaluated blood vessel function in healthy, young, nonsmoking adults after they were exposed to a half hour of secondhand smoke at levels commonly found in public smoking areas. The study participants also underwent similar evaluations after exposure to smoke-free air on a different day.


The researchers learned that in healthy nonsmokers, even brief exposure to secondhand smoke resulted in blood vessel dysfunction and interfered with the activity of endothelial progenitor cells (EPCs), which are believed to play a key role in repairing blood vessels. The damage to the EPCs appeared to last as long as a day.


"Taken together, these findings provide further evidence that even a very short period of passive smoke exposure has strong, persistent vascular consequences," the scientists write in the journal article.


Yes, as you say it has a calming factor, it is my experience that the dead are very calm.


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They are not very pleasant to be around with the smell on their clothes and breath, that is a smell thing. But, neither is someone pleasant to be around who eats their own snot, that's a visual thing.

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We should all persevere to be as health minded as possible. We are HEALTH-CARE providers.We need to provide judgement free encouragement to our Patients as well as our collegues. This applies to smoking  or other forms of drug  addiction, overeating, alcohol  addiction etc.........   Believe me,for all who smoke, take this absolute from an ex-smoker; Quit !  By Any Means Necessary. It is well worth the effort. The total body improvements are absolute, as well as the self esteem improvement.

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