Everything Nurses >> Nurse Talk >> ER Techs at triage
ER Techs at triage
|
4 posts back to top |
Posted over 4 years ago I work at a facility that allows a tech to triage. They can do this because they found a loop hole by having a nurse "review" the note and sign behind them agreeing or disagreeing. I feel this is very wrong and could lead to (and has) poor quality care. I understand the need to find ways to move the large numbers of patients through the ED in an efficient way but not while sacrificing quality care. I refuse to sign behind anyone unless I saw the patient at the same time and can without a doubt say I agree with the tech's findings. I feel this is unfair to our techs because it puts them in a bad position, and it is also unfair to the nurses and patients. Thoughts? |
|
140 posts back to top |
| Posted over 4 years ago I can't sign behind anything I did not see for myself. What happens if somthing bad happens to the pt and the tech had missed something? It would fall on the nurse that signed off on it. Not me. Nursing it's how I live my life..... |
|
4 posts back to top |
| Posted over 4 years ago Thanks for the reply....I wasn't sure if this was a new approach to getting patients through a busy ER everywhere or just someone's idea here. Either way, I feel it is a very bad idea all the way around. |
|
140 posts back to top |
| Posted over 4 years ago It's not like that in my ER and I hope it never gets that way. I really don't see how it would be faster because a good nurse would go behind the tech and check on the patient any way. So the way I see it, if you have to do it anyway how is that saving time or making it faster. I know techs know how to do their job and they are a value to the health care team. I'm not saying they're not. It's just I feel like triage is a nursing job. We have to do triage levels like 1 for stroke, MI, or heavy trauma, 2,3,4,5 colds, no fever, med refills. So can a tech decide which level? Marsha Nursing it's how I live my life..... |
|
4 posts back to top |
| Posted over 4 years ago Yes, and we have had slip ups many times and close calls. The nurses in our fast track area have caught many patients and sent them to the main side before anything bad happened. We even had a patient, with an extensive cardiac history, seated back in the lobby because he presented with epigastric pain. Turns out he had an elevated trope! We were so lucky he didn't die while waiting those 2 hours to get back to the treatment area. |
|
140 posts back to top |
| Posted over 4 years ago That's what I'm talking about. Are you the only nurse that questions this? If not get together and talk to your nurse manager about it just to see if there could be a different solution. I know pts want to be moved through the ER fast but at what point do we let that take the place of good care? Or the best care that we can offer? People in a hurry can miss something. Even more so if the person is not train to a high enough level. A nurse could have missed that but with a cardiac history and epigastric pain a red flag should go up which would open a line of questions What would have happened if he had died? A Nurse would be in trouble for signing off on his chart. Marsha Nursing it's how I live my life..... |
|
628 posts back to top |
| Posted over 4 years ago Yeah, bad idea. That setup is inviting sentinel events. Most "techs" have limited training and don't have a fraction of the experience or education & training to pick up on the subtle red flags that we look for. We work with paramedics in our triage area, but they are not responsible for primary assessment and categorization. A good, experienced streetwise medic can pick up on these subtleties, but techs typically do not. Has JC visited lately and been ok with this setup? |
|
4 posts back to top |
| Posted over 4 years ago I am not sure when the last "official visit" took place, but I will be curious to know how they navigate this for future visits. They cover it by having a nurse sign behind the tech "agreeing" with the assess when in fact, the nurse did not see the patient until much later. Some nurses sign off as if it were nothing but I refuse to sign anything I did not see first hand. |
|
7788 posts back to top |
| Posted over 4 years ago I am a tech in ER, and I would NEVER want to triage patients. Only nurses should do that A good man loves other. A better man loves God. A great man loves God and lives well among others! I miss you daddy!
|

