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Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Apparently the number of prospective students denied admission to nursing schools has increased sixfold in the last five years.
All of this during a period when it has become more and more evident that a nursing shortage is on the horizon - see Tuesday's article"Health Care Crisis Growing". Should admissions requirements be lowered? Should there be more investment in short-term nursing programs?

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Hi JonZ, Denis again. Granted I had my doubts about going back to school after a 15 year break, but....

Standards should not be lowered. Not to mention, we don't have the faculty to teach all students who apply. I got As in all my prerequisites, but I was still not guaranteed a slot in the nursing program: my school gives points (up to 100), for certain courses, GPA, and residency in certain counties. Not typically fair, but, the program has to weed out people early. And 2 years ago, there were 123 applicants with perfect scores. There was a lottery for the 56 slots, and 67 people weren't happy. As short as we are on qualified nurses, we must get the most qualified and the ones who apply themselves at school (but being good in school doesn't mean you will be a great nurse, either). And your grades in anatomy and physiology are directly related to how well you do in nursing school. If anything, As should be required to get into a program.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Jon, My opinion is that there needs to be a greater incentive for nursing faculty. If there were more teachers there could be more students. Admission requrements are not really the issue, are they? The issue is that there are only so many slots open.

Nurse_barbie_max50

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

I agree. I think the majority of students not getting in to school are denied because the schools lack the capacity, not because they didn't meet admission criteria. I think lowering admission requirements is the LAST thing that nursing schools should do. States should put more money into opening new programs and providing incentives for nursing instructors. In addition, I am under the impression that nurses have a very high burn out rate after very few years in the profession. I think that the best way to combat the "nursing shortage" is to provide better working conditions for current nurses to maybe keep them practicing longer.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Those are some great points! If the issue is lack of faculty, what approach should nursing schools take to attract new faculty members?

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

A problem getting experienced nurses to teach in my community is the schasm in pay between an experienced nurse and a new instructor. For example there is a particular wonderful nurse I know who has been practicing for 14 years at a local hospital. He said that if he were to take a teaching position at the local state community college he would take a 50% pay cut! I think the only incentive that is really lacking is a reasonable salary. I think that instead of starting instructors off at the bottom of the payscale at an academic institution they should be offered salaries comparable to what they would be offered based on their experience in the private sector.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

Teachers of all sorts are not typically paid well. These people are shaping the future minds and they're paid bunk. I agree with Boogle in that beginning instructor pay should be very comparable to what they're making in their clinical practice. You'd be living outside of your means with a 50% pay cut.
And Denis, I'd have to say I disagree a bit with the correlation between the grades in A&P and the grades in nursing school. I had classmates who aced all prerequisites and failed miserably in their first or second semester of nursing school. Nursing is about applying the knowledge you gain throughout your academics. Not everyone can do that.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

I definately think that the shortage is due to lack of faculty, but I don't thik this is always due to the school's willingness to pay higher salaries. I think that rather this lack of money (at least in state run universities) is due to nation wide budget cuts. The school's know that there is a need, however they cannot afford to expand thier facilities or thier faculty. I do not think that standards need to be lowered, however I think that more options for an education would be beneficial. This could include fast track programs or other second degree options that I believe are very benificial for career changers.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

The reason why there is such competition my school in particular is because there will be an average of 600 apllicants a year for our program and there is usually 60 to 90 slots open. Of course only the top students are picked ( I go to community college) and the rest either have to wait until the following year to hopefully get accepted. As it is, we are told that of the 60 to 90 that are accepted; a third will fail out before the program is finished. This wastes about $5000 a year of funding that could have gone students who are serious about school. I believe the system that we have right now ( at least in my school) is for a reason. However in Denis's case it is not fair for the 67 students who worked hard only to lose because of chance.

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Rate This | Posted almost 6 years ago

 

We definitely need more creative options to train more US nurses! That is what IUON is doing www.iuon.org
Any other options are greatly appreciated.

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Rate This | Posted over 5 years ago

 

I agree with the above posts, Nursing instuctors/techers need incentives. I applied to my school with a 3.5 and was denied my advisor told me there just weren't enough spaces because the lack of teachers and now i'm faced with deciding what to do and where else to apply.