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Posted over 5 years ago Lets hear what you got to say. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Personally I feel that we should get better pay, plus I feel we should get more credit than we do. I also feel that when we are taking care of a client that we should be better informed espically by our supervisors. and really I dont think we should give out meds because if we are giving the wrong kind whos gonna be the first one to get fired? We are |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Id really like to hear what my members who joined have to say on the subject. Hope you guys can give me something. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Better pay and more respect, girl I was hired to work with only dementia and altheimers patients. I willingly took the job although I knew it would be really hard and it was very low pay for a single mother of two. Anyways, on the third day of being out of my training period I was left alone because of short staff. I got hurt because there was noone to help me and of course people have needs like going to the bathroom etc. The next morning the pain on my lower back was horrible I could hardly walk or even drive myself to the hospital when I called work they told me to call at a later time I left a message noone got back to me. After three days of medication I felt better so I drove to my job. After trying for three days to get a hold of someone and noone returned my calls. They said to me that they warned me about getting hurt in the orientation meeting its an automatic fire and so sure enough she said here is your check, you are fired. I had an emergency visit bill and medicine I paid out of pocket two kids at home and no job. Now, do you think that could have gone any differently? |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Actually I think you were treated unfairly. I think that when you are in training that the supervisors should be there to support you and not put you on a job bye yourself. They should be more informative and useally when you are in training theres suppose to be someone to back you up. Thats why they talk about teamwork, how can you have good team work when nobody is willing to help you or pass the buck. Example I once had a client who had terminally ill cancer was never told what would happen to him when it came time for him to pass. I got up in the morning to get him up he had bleed out, my god I was frantick I called my supervisor because thats suppose to be the first person your suppose to call and told her what had happened she said clean him up call the family and then proceeded to complain to me why am I calling her its the holiday after I spent 23 days straight taking care of him bye myself cause no one was willing to do overnights took time away from my family and she had the nerve to get upset with me. I still have not gotten over that and that happened four years ago. Thats why I know work independitly. I find my own clients work with the family on a one to one bacies and dont take a job I cant handel. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago maiana,
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| Posted over 5 years ago Mariana, sorry typo on the name. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago kat88 that was some good info. Ill definitly keep that in mind. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I definitly think we should get better pay as aides in some ways i feel we are the back bone of the facility. We are the ones that do the grunt work and get none of the credit. At my job a lot of the nurses give us no respect like we're scum and not as good as them. I have gotten screwed over royally at my job numerous times (i.e. I was told i could change from benefit status to non-benefit in order to get the dollar an hour that was takin, when i went to fill out the necassary paperwork the next day i was told i couldn't by a higher up). Also many times i have reported things dealing with my residents and have gotten blown off. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago kat88 said: I agree that we need to get better pay. We are the one's that do the dirty jobs and get payed less. I also agree that we are understaffed. I think that it is unfair that one cna has to deal with one floor. In my state after January 1st the amount of patients that we have is going to be lower and this will go down for the next three years. So what I am saying is that right now we can have up to 15 residents on the pm shift and in January we are supposed to have 12 and the year after that it is suppose to go down to 10 and the next year after that it is like 7 or 8. Every shift this will happen. I think that this is going to be difficult to get used to but it will be beter in the long run. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I agree with everyone, I have been a CNA for almost 9 years, and the respect you get is 00000. I worked in almost every department in nursing, besides the OR and NICU. I have been injured twice, and suffer from tendinitis at times in my right arm and hand. I was once told by a nurse, when I was working through a registry, that if I hurt my back, it would be on me. I thought that was rude, because like one of you said, nursing is suppose to be a team profession. I injured my back anyway, but it was not because I didn't have any help, it was because the patient, didn't pull her weight, so nurses, supervisors, etc, can't threatened you, everyone is not exempt, from injuries in this type of profession, that's why I am in school to be a nurse, I can't deal with the abuse anymore. We are underpaid, and overworked, and most of all, we are abused constantly!!!!!. I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I think pay should definately be scaled for CNA's according to where you work and when you work. Our Day shift gets pts up in the morning and serves and cleans up after two meals, provides showers along with putting pt's back to bed. They should get a differential. East Wing has patients that are generally independant with a few total assists. West Wing: oh my God, the CNA's deal with alarms, flight risk, total assists, wandering dementia, altheimers, and bizarre psychiatric disorders. (Paranoid Schiztophrenics). They work and prefer to work there asking me how possibly do I deal with the patients I work with? Those CNA's are the strongest and the best of the best.
CNA's in general: I have noted that the CNA's talk about being able to apply for chapter 8 housing, WIC programs and some recieve food stamps. Heartbreaking. You can look in our parking lot and see the CNA cars are rusted out, old and often a tire is being changed in the lot.
Please think about the nursing shortage and how much support nursing CNA's have been given over the years, we are one step away from honorary LPN's. We are going to the poles to vote!
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| Posted over 5 years ago you have my vote i agree with what you say. let me know when its time. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago As a cna for 20 years I agree that we are overworked and underpaid.In my area we have no unions for us either. I worked in one facility where the adm.had the balls to say "cna's were a dime a dozen".He was fired about 6 months later. But I had already quit.Another time I was working home health and a nursing home staff went on strike.I was called and asked to cross the line for 15.00 per/hr. As much as I needed the money I refused.I'm out now with a back injuy.I had to get a lawyer and in Jan. it will be a year.I am going nuts!!!!!! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Of course CNAs are under paid and Under appreciated. That should go without question. They work very hard and give a great deal of time and comfort to their patients. CNA's DESERVE A RAISE AND RESPECT. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago CNA's the back bone of the medical team. Let them get down or behind we all suffer. They do not get the pay nor the credit that they deserve. Some of us started our nursing careers as CNA's, Emergency medical techs in the ER and PCA's. We all know how important they are. MY VOTE............MORE MONEY? YES!!! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I definatley tihink CNA's need better pay. Some get paid barley above minimum wage, Wages sometimes are not even enough to keep up with costs of living. They don't get enough respect and take a lot of abuse. There is a shortage of Nurses and the low pay for CNA's is not helping with the shortage. |
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| Posted about 5 years ago Of Course CNA's should get better pay...they are the eyes and ears....:) Drew |
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| Posted about 5 years ago This is a question I grapple with often. I am a C.N.A. instructor and own my own business. I began my nursing care as a private duty home aide, then became a C.N.A., and worked my way up to an RN. There are many factors that affect pay rate. Education level, responsibilities, and healthcare costs are a few of them. I believe C.N.A.'s are the heart of long-term care facilities. However, I have noticed a change in work ethic that concerns me. I have found C.N.A.'s talking on the phone while feeding residents, eating food from their trays, telling residents' about personal problems, etc. I have also worked with C.N.A.'s who were dedicated and professional. I wish I could clone a few! My gut says, of course C.N.A.'s should be paid more, but my brain knows that in order for this to happen facilities would have to trim something from the budget unless medicare and insurance companies decided to pay higher rates. Remember, direct care workers are not the only ones affected by the increase in gasoline rates and high food prices. Think of the dietary departments. Again, food prices are high and it costs more to deliver the products. These price increases get passed on to facilities. Business is tricky. I am able to see both sides. There is no easy answer. I do think that C.N.A.'s are not recognized for the hard work most of them do. It seems some people find it easier to reprimand bad behavior than to reward a job well done. I am a big supporter of employee appreciation actions and would love to see an increase in pay rates. Thank you for your service, keep up the good work. Val Candee |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago I'm a CNA at a Skilled Nursing Facility. I work PMs on the unit with the Alzheimer & Demintia residents (patients). Some are hospice care, but most are not. What I find totally irritating is that the majority of the CNAs I work with would much rather cut corners and get the work "done" (I say that lightly) so they can sit and gossip than do the actual work needed for the residents. Most of the CNAs I work with are right out of high school or slightly older, but maturity wise, they have a long way to go. That being said, I wouldn't want to give those CNAs a raise simply because the rest of us pull their weight and cover their a$$es. I understand the business side of the world as well, but respect is the one thing I think we need more of from the Nurses. Recently there was a CNA who passed her exam for LPN, and suddenly she is rude and demeaning to the CNAs. I know she is learning a whole new procedure for her work day, but that is no reason to be short and demanding with a person. She "asked" me to do something the other day and one fo the residents spouse was there. He couldn't believe the way she "asked" me to do something. He actaully went up and talked to the Unit Mgr. about it. I've always believed that please and thank you are the three most important words in the english language. If we could get a few more of those that are really meant from the nursing staff, it would go a long way! |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago YES I BELIEVE THAT WE AS CNA'S DO MORE WORK THAN NURSES ,LPNS,AND SOMETIME THE APRN'S AN DOCTORS!WE CLEAN THEM,FEED THEM ,AND DO ALL THEIR ERRANDS AND SO FOURTH.HOW MUCH DOES ANY OF THOSE NURSES,LPN'S,APRN'S AND DOCTORS DO COMPARED TO WHAT WE DO WITH THE PATIENT .AND i ALSO BELIEVE THAT CJSMOM02 IS CORRECT IF YOUR NOT DOING YOUR JOB HOW IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE DONE YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T GET PAID TO CUT CORNERS ! |
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| Posted almost 5 years ago YES YES YES! As an assistant director of a 120 bed facility I wil tell you we don't pay our CNA's nearly enough. It is by far the toughest job there is with the lowest pay & respect. I make a conscious effort to tell my aides thanks for a great job because I recognize they are all burned out, overworked & underpaid. It also amazes me how my nurses talk to my nurse aides. Behind every good nurse is a nurse aide wiling to come in & do the dirt work. Speaking of dirty work, this nurse does peri care! I get a kick out of my new aides that come on board when they see me in a patients room transfering, assisting with ADL's, feeding & doing peri care...yes I did say peri care! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I definately think that on average cna's are overworked and underpaid. I"m a cna and choose to do home health. I"m paid more and its less work only having one client to take care of. My thoughts on the issues is if you dont like your job and what you are being paid, get another one. I've been in healthcare for over 6 years now and decided to go back to school. Yes I've had to make some adjustment due to nursing school being 40hrs a week but its worth it. So my suggestion is go back to school and get more education so you can get more pay. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I not only think that we should better pay,I also believe that even if we work part time or in home care we should be able to join a union or get benifits .I meen we really tend to do a lot at time .And it's feels like we don't get any recongnition! |
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| Posted over 4 years ago I tink yes more $$$. But also I think teir background should be thourally checked out, and especially in elderly care they should be very informed of what their dutied are . They get the hardest and grossest stuff in the elderly care most of the time. But I also think employers don't want to pay more b/c they have so many abuse cases, or walk outs and call ins, b/c they feel they aren't being compensated. While they watch the lpns and rn do less work more flirting and gossiping, while they are working so hard they don't even have a chance to ask for help, or a bathroom break for themselves sometimes. I think If they would come up with a pay scale that increases more quickly than other jobs do while your work is monitored maybe even weekly. It wouldn't be that hard, b/c the person that relieves your shift know what you did and didn't get done for your resident or patiens. I have worked in the kitchen and house cleaning alot in nursing homes, I'm not a CNA, But I know I worked my bu off, and I saw some of the cna work til they were sweating, and see the next shift in the service hallways trying to hide. |
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| Posted over 4 years ago CNA's work their butts off. Yes better pay would be nice;however, I think the main reason the pay is low is because there is not much schooling involved in becoming a CNA. Doctors and nurses have to put more time and effort into getting their degrees. This is sad but true. A good man loves other. A better man loves God. A great man loves God and lives well among others! I miss you daddy!
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| Posted over 4 years ago YES!!!!!!! CNAs need more pay. I don't work as a CNA anymore but when I did I was always working short staff and there were times when i worked with nurses that would not even answer a call light. When a CNA is working understaff not only is it hard for them but the residents are not getting the quality care that they need. And thats not fair for that CNA or that resident. I think higher pay and respect from nurses (some nurses) would elimenate a lot of issues...because in the end everyone is there for the residents. |
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| Posted about 4 years ago I think CNAs should get more pay. My husband is a LPN, at a nursing home, he treats his cnas with respect and appreciates them and the job they do. I commented on CNAs ought to get more pay, actually I made a comment that just about every job at the nursing home ought to have about the same pay, only maybe a few more bucks difference. BECAUSE they all have a job, that they work very hard at, and basically no one else wants to do! With a lot of responsibilites, each in their own catagory. Including housekeeping. But then I got to thinking about it, money wise, if the nursing home had to pay a CNA the same amt or close to a LPN, would less CNAs get hired and more responsibilities fall to the LPN? Since they have already had the training for it? I think CNAs get less pay because they have less schooling. The paperwork is terrible my husband says, you miss one thing and the whole nursing home could be in trouble. And yes they get more of the grunt work. I know that its not always easy, but my husband continued at a community college for his LPN, working at temp agencys (which pay way more then at a hospital, which not too many hire cnas) to pay for his college classes, he said if he didnt pass the LPN courses, he was not working as a CNA, he didnt like the job and would find something else to do. I know its hard to work at a job that you dont really like or care for, and in todays economy, theres not much of a choice in what to do. Maybe with Obama and his *SAVING THE DAY* ideas and school funding, healthcare reform and etc, more CNAs can continue to a higher degree that they would like in the nursing field. :-) |
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| Posted about 4 years ago The pay for a CNA is disgraceful! WE are such hard workers and do most of the lifting, dirty jobs etc. Some nurses treat us nice, but most are rude and act like we are nothings. Not speaking for ALL nurses, okay. I have been treated badly in the past, but I love helping others, so I did my job to the best of my ability. If I ever finally get my nursing degree, I will do anything I can to help a CNA since I know how it feels. It should not be above and beyond a nurse to change a bed, clean up a patient, etc. if there is no one else to help. If a nurse doesn't want to do those things every now and again, they shouldn't work in a hospital or a nursing home. That is just my opinion. But, hey there are some nurses out there that are good. I have worked with some great ones. A good man loves other. A better man loves God. A great man loves God and lives well among others! I miss you daddy!
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| Posted about 3 years ago Mariana_1006 says ... Better pay and more respect, girl I was hired to work with only dementia and altheimers patients. I willingly took the job although I knew it would be really hard and it was very low pay for a single mother of two. Anyways, on the third day of being out of my training period I was left alone because of short staff. I got hurt because there was noone to help me and of course people have needs like going to the bathroom etc. The next morning the pain on my lower back was horrible I could hardly walk or even drive myself to the hospital when I called work they told me to call at a later time I left a message noone got back to me. After three days of medication I felt better so I drove to my job. After trying for three days to get a hold of someone and noone returned my calls. They said to me that they warned me about getting hurt in the orientation meeting its an automatic fire and so sure enough she said here is your check, you are fired. I had an emergency visit bill and medicine I paid out of pocket two kids at home and no job. Now, do you think that could have gone any differently? |
