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Should male and female nurses have to do the same jobs?

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As relates to the original discussion, when I worked in the field as a Paramedic, it wasn't an option - I'd have to do whatever procedure needed to be done regardless of the gender of my patient. If it was a case involving sexual abuse, I'd have a female firemedic, firefighter, or police officer riding in the back with me to "cover my butt", to protect the patient's interests, as well as to provide psychological support to an already frightened woman. In the ED where I work now, I try to let the female nurses handle female caths and EKG's on young female patients, and I'll do caths and EKG's on their male patients - more out of respect for patient comfort than for any other reason. But when it's necessary, we all do what we've got to do. Do I bring another person into the exam room with me for witness purposes? You bet your license I do. And that's on just about ANYONE these days. Defending yourself against allegations of improper conduct is no fun.


Ted

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tdage: I like your answer the best . It makes the most sense. There's always someone who can sort thru the muck and come up with the right answer!

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nursingaround said:

Well guys, perhaps I sounded a bit harsh, the words of JennyJay sum up more simply the way I feel, it's a practical issue for me. My home hospital even has a policy that men do men and women do women, although it is not always adhered to.
Reading back over my comments I do sound a bit severe and I apologise. My first female catheterization happened in my first two weeks of nursing. My preceptor said my 40yr old hysterectomy patient needed a catheter as the one from theater had come out. I asked her for help, and she said, "You'll be fine, just look for the small hole". I am not kidding when I say this.
Anyway, have found your comments interesting and thought provoking and may even be willing to change my ways a bit.
Thank you all.

sorry about the preceptor, that s a bad deal. It has been a very interesting topic to follow. Has opened my mind to other thoughts as well, thanks and for putting up with a bit of bashing and your comments.

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Yes, definately. I met a korean veteran, that is post MI x3, CAD, DM etc..etc... Well this gentleman was working as a prison gaurd as he had no retirement and one of the female prisonors accused him of sexual misconduct. He lost his job, his house and is living with in-laws. It was of no relevance that this 70+ y/o soft spoken man has no sexual capabilities. (I don;t know quite how to say that).

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nursingaround said:

I'm surprised that your men don't need a chaperon, especially in America as it's well known as such a litigious society. In New Zealand, even doctors doing gynae exams need a chaperon, so the male nurses definitely do as well.

Our instructors drilled into our male students to ALWAYS had a chaperon with them when they are with a female pt. Its not a law but more like protection for the nurse.

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I think that as a male, if I wanted a MALE to do a catherization on me, that should be my right if it was possible to accomodate me. Men can be modest too and having an unknown person come in to do such an intimate thing is very upsetting. If no male were available, at least the female who had to do this could offer to drape the patient as modestly as possible.....I asked for that consideration once in the hospital and the female nurse (a former studnet of mine) very politely complied when I explained my modesty issue....

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This is nothing new to me. I haven't entered the nursing workforce yet, but I have run into nearly the same situation in my current field of corrections. For instance, I am, at the moment, the only white man on my shift. When a black inmate becomes unruly, it is my job, along with everyone else, to bring him under control, but my Lt. has, in the past, pulled me out of struggles because she fears that such an inmate would play the race card if he should happen to get injured. As long as there are only black officers touching him, he can't do that. I agree with her that it is a legitimate concern, since it does happen. But, I disagree with her because I am a professional at whatever I do, and I keep my bases covered. It would be a hassle for a while, but I would get through it. Witnesses, cameras and agency policy will all back me up. I plan to carry this over into my new nursing career where I will still be a minority, a male among females. When called upon to do my job with a female patient, I shall do it. If my institution's policy requires a female presence or not, that is what I shall go by. If a patient requests a female nurse, that's okay too. They have that right. However, I will not simply refuse to treat a woman unless she is giving overt verbal cues that she is litigation-happy and spoiling for a suit. I've run into those kind behind bars, and I'm sure I'll see more of them in the clinics. In those cases, CYA is the best protocol.

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Maybe you should start your own thread..."Let me talk about how great I am and hear me talk about my abnormal penis."


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RN dude. I am com[petely aware of your hesitancy. However, there are  DR;s, both man and women and so the nurse should be treated justt  the  same. If there was no other nurses, then you would have to.. This can be done, with the area being very professional.. Hugs,Teresa

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Ensue, what is

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En dud

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Apparently you guys are afraid to touch this...

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HEY, JAYME, I TOUCHED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Keyboard warriors piss me off. Im jayme Mckinney, facebook me.

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GladiatorJayme,


     Why are you even on this site? NL is for nurses, nursing students, & healthcare proffessionals not men who want to talk about the size of their package... I mean give me a break! I find you to be crude & uneducated. The last thing I want to read is comments like yours. You can say whatever you want on FB just get off of NL!


"When you're a nurse you know that everyday you will touch a life or a life will touch yours." author unknown
missLPN... Michele

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You are a disgrace to the nursing profession...  Do us all a favor and go to another site who cares....Teresa

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I cannot fathom that someone this absurd is an actual healthcare professional.  High school education at best.

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Concerning the phallus-obsessed, self-illuminating, keyboard-warring individual.


A.  He is not a nurse and probably could make the cut.


B.  He is far to offensive and would be fired from any nursing position, if he could get hired to begin with.


C.  RNdude - I disagree.  The number of incorrect words, grammar and syntax composition would make high school graduation unlikely.


D. RNdude - I agree.  He should start his own site.  He has proven that he can fill it with the voluminous, self-glorifying dribble that he types (Where does he find time to train with all of this self-worship on the internet?  Must have an assistant to dictate to or something.).


E.  Hope he has a dictionary, so that he can figure-out what I just said.


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Thank you all for having my back... You guys are the greatest and I'd like to keep that smutt off of NL...Hugs,Teresa


 


 


 


 


 


 


 

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"A. He is not a nurse and probably COULD make the cut."
to = too ....genius
Dumbass, accussing me of bad syntax, you mis typed COULD, I dont give a shit whats it comes out as im typing it on an iphone,
to retort against your inquery to my intelligence I graduated University of Louisiana of Monroe in 1998 with a BA in crim just and a BA in biz mang, I have a tested IQ of 163 and yes a 9.5 inch DICK!! I am not a nurse (which several of you dick handling morons didnt realize from teh get go) just picking ur preverted brains in my spare time as how you justify women playing with mens dicks at work especially if one like mine comes in...and in my experience you "professional life saving angelic female nurses" are more than happy to touch and play with and note that when they see a 10 inch penis its super rare....now go home to ur husband and tell him u just played with a 10 inch penis. (which are 1 in 27000 btw?
Yall keep bashing me but I notice you cant answer my questions.....

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Concerning the phallus-obsessed, self-illuminating, keyboard-warring individual.

A. He is not a nurse and probably could make the cut.
B. He is far to offensive and would be fired from any nursing position, if he could get hired to begin with.
C. RNdude - I disagree. The number of incorrect words, grammar and syntax composition would make high school graduation unlikely.
D. RNdude - I agree. He should start his own site. He has proven that he can fill it with the voluminous, self-glorifying dribble that he types (Where does he find time to train with all of this self-worship on the internet? Must have an assistant to dictate to or something.).
E. Hope he has a dictionary, so that he can figure-out what I just said.

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Some people just cannot fathom the ability to be a professional in certain situations.  I could see that thought coming from someone outside of the medical profession.  Since I entered the medical field in 1987 I have seen countless naked women.  Many of whom, in a social situation, would make any man salivate.  You see, Jayme, when you grow up and take a job like this seriously it's easy to separate your primal thoughts from professional ones.  Sure there are those who cannot control themselves and would get hot and bothered by some idiot's schlong or some babe's awesome rack.  That's what separates them from us.


And with that...I'm out.  Good luck growing up.

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RNdude, thank you for your input..You said it all and now maybe he'll go away...Hugs,Teresa

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Neither of u answered anything?


RNdude? Would u be ok with ur gf / wife playing with my 9.5 inch penis??


TeresahRN would you not consider playing with my 9.5 inch penis a sexual anomaly and note it with exception>?


 


 


 

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RNdude,


Well said.  I believe that you capture the entire essence of the situation and addressed it quite well. 


And I agree with you on all points.  I have taken care of women who "were to-die-for".  You are right-on, when we are working, we are working.  When we play, we play.  Some people have the ability to separate the two.


Good job.


Tom


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I also agree..Hugs,Teresa

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Teresa & Tom,


I appreciate the kind words.  Spending any more time on a buffoon like him would be foolish.

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No Doubt.....Teresa


 

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He likes the attention too much. 


He really should go to the WWE.  They get that kind of attention.


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What is WWE?

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What fcking idiot moron could not know what the WWE is???


 


You stupid, pompous nerdy fucks still havent answered those two questions, its because you cant: Go for it.

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