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Nurses who steal drugs...Would you turn them in?
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Posted almost 4 years ago I saw this article and wondered if anyone has come across a nurse who stole drugs, or used drugs while at work. If so, did you turn them in? If you have never seen it, would you turn them in if you did come across it? I am just curious on others views. Read the article, it is pretty interesting. http://www.propublica.org/feature/iraj-zandi-nurses |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago I would turn them in without hesitation.
What is also concerning is the use of Demerol (meperidine) ,for sedation, in outpatient surgery. WOW |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago First you are legally obligated to report even suspected on-the-job impairment, drug theft or any other crime committed on the hospital or clinic grounds. That out of the way here is a true story that is far from an isolated incident.
I worked Pediatrics in 1981 in a fairly large hospital in New Mexico. Our unit adjoined the surgical floor. One night the surgical floor charge nurse called and asked me, since I was one of only 2 men on both floors, to come check an employee restroom for "missing" nurse. I went in and found this guy who (an LVN) passed out on the john, a syringe still hanging from his arm. Recent injection sites in various stages of healing were noted.
I reported this to the charge nurse who promptly went in to witness this herself. The supervisor was paged and in short order this nurse was removed from the john and taken to the security office. Reports were filed and a complaint filed with the NM Board of Nursing. The result? The LVN was offered a diversion program, his license was placed on probation pending successful completion of rehab and the hospital fired him. The charge nurse, however, admitted that she had had suspicions at times that this fellow was "possibly" taking patient drugs and that he appeared "impaired" at times. Her license was suspended for 1 year! Why the difference between criminal and the one who reported the criminal? He was impaired and she was not. Additionally she had not reprted these suspicions and was thus in violation of the Nurse Practice Act as written at that time. So, if you want to keep YOUR license I would suggest reporting even strong suspicions. You should be able to remain anonymous, at least while your suspicions are investigated and you have protected patients, the facility and your own behind. |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago In 1995, I was working on a Med/surg unit. A co-worker went to give Morphine and the carpoject had BLOOD in it. I asked her if nurse "J" had the cart at the morning count. I reported that Nurse 'J' chronically was short at the morning narc count, always gave all her q1hr narc's because her pt's were always painful, Nurse 'J' was seen passed out in an empty room 'sick', and if Nurse 'J' had your narcotic keys while you were on break that your count was short. I was called the first business day by the head charge nurse, who told me that 'I would probably be sued for slander, by making such accusations'. I told the charge nurse that I couldn't be sued for slander, if what I was saying was true, and that there was supposedly sterile morphine carpoject that had blood contamination locked in the pharmacists safe. I was further verbally harrassed, and I replied that perhaps this was something that we needed to take to the local newspaper, because perhaps other blood tainted syringes had slipped through the system, possibly even injected into pt's. At this point, she decided that she better take action, rather then turn it over to the newspaper. The offending nurse was called into the office, and was greeted by the hospital lawyer, as well as all the hospital suits. She crumpled and confessed. She surrendered her license, and went to rehab. Would I do it all again? HELL YEA, don't let anyone protect a nurse who is using. |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago Those are great stories that we can all learn from. In my opinion, it isn't anything to mess around with. I'm not willing to lose my license for not turning someone in, and it isn't safe for the patient who has that person as a nurse. I have to agree that I would also turn them in. |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago When I first started working, the tubex's came in boxes of 10. Five tubex's were in a single plastic "slip", with break off tabs so you could only pull out one at a time. If you pulled a narc, and didn't use it, you were supposed to waste it but a lot of nurses just put it back rather than see the patient get charged for a waste. When we did narc count there were often one or two that were broken and no one thought much of it. One day, a co-worker and I were doing count and we found 37 "broken" tubex slips. I reported it to the manager, who already knew about it. An LPN who'd only been working with us a short time confessed to stealing the drugs and was fired (this was before rehab became an option.) Nowadays, tubex's come in single plastic slips that are sealed on one end, but I still occasionally find one that was opened and not used. In another instance, we actually had the DEA visit our hospital over narcotics. We had a Pyxis, but it was common practice for a lot of us to take out a 10mg tubex of morphine when docs wrote pain orders "titrate to pain". Often we'd forget to waste what we didn't use. One day we got a patient who hand't wanted to come to our hospital in the first place. He filed a complaint with the state (over burnt toast, I was told--I wasn't working that day). When the state came to investigate his care, they found a nurse had taken out morphine but not documented in the chart it had been given. We all were sure this nurse wasn't stealing drugs--he was just the worst at charting in the department--his notes were really poor even though he was an excellent nurse in all other respects. Nothing came of it, but we all got a lot more careful about narcotics after that, I can tell you! |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago While I would turn in someone I suspected of stealing drugs, or being impaired on the job, I would also want to be sure I wasn't making unfounded accusations. Another incident I had to deal with was when I worked in corrections. We used blister packs to make 30 day supplies for the inmates, these were kept in a med cart in the control pod on the blocks. Routine meds were passed by the day nurse (I worked evenings) or by the officers we trained as med aides. On duty officers passed prns when medical staff was not on duty (at night, and on weekends). Each blister pack had a MAR stapled to it: the inmate signed for the med, and the officer signed the inmate received it. These blister packs included narcotics and other controlled substances, and the cart was not locked. One day I was refilling blister packs that would not last through the coming weekend, and noticed one pack of an inmate's Vicodin was almost empty, though the inmate had only signed for a few doses. Alarmed, I went through every blister pack from every block and found more missing narcotics. Some could be attributed to failure to sign on the part of busy officers (ie, ones with only one missing dose) but there were multiple ones with multiple doses missing. I made copies of every MAR, photocopied every blister pack, took copious notes of what was missing, then called the physician who was my employer (I was a subcontracted nurse, not a county employee). He immediately ordered me to report the issue to the major who ran security for the jail, and to not to discuss the issue with anyone else. The major was very upset, and began an investigation. It didn't take long for us to figure out who it was. Unfortunately, the jail's internal affairs officer told the suspect he was on his way out to search the guy's car and house so of course nothing was found. I was livid--all my hard work went for nothing. Once the cat was out of the bag, we put locks on the carts, and only the shift supervisor was allowed to pass prn meds--which didn't make them happy as it was a time consuming pain in the ass for them, and the inmates were all too happy to deluge them with demands for their meds. We made the mistake of thinking we could trust the correctional officers. Most of them are trustworthy, but I learned the hard way every jail has a few who are just as bad as the guys they are guarding. |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago Five tubex's were in a single plastic "slip", with break off tabs so you could only pull out one at a time. If you pulled a narc, and didn't use it, you were supposed to waste it but a lot of nurses just put it back rather than see the patient get charged for a waste. When we did narc count there were often one or two that were broken and no one thought much of it. Yep, this was the same back in '95'. It was another problem with Nurse 'J', her tabs were always accidently broke on whatever drug cart she had her hand in. Also, another nurse and I had noticed something strange, that the carpojets had lost their 'pop'. A new carpojet is tight, and the initial push is like it's stuck. Her accidentally broke ones slid real easy. If I had to do it over again, I would have also brought that nurse manager down for trying to cover it up. She was friends with the nurse (and her husband who was also an MD). Somewhere in there was a drug tampering charge. I know for a fact, that pt's got saline instead of morphine, because nurses were reporting that lack of a 'pop' on the syringe. The nurse manager stupidly thought we 'wasted' the syringe. WE bagged, tagged and locked it up in the pharmacists safe. |
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| Posted almost 4 years ago Thank to everyone that has been posting. I am a new nurse who knows where I stand on the issue, but I appreciate everyone sharing their stories. It shows me that it is a problem in some situations as well as how others handle the situation. Thank you again!! :) |
