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Diabetes and obesity draining resources.
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Posted over 5 years ago It's the age old discussion...but what do you think?? Diabetics are expensive to care for, some diabetes is induced by poor diet. Obesity has other secondary problems, from increased cost of cardiac care to prolonged wound healing. Many people have discussed whether smokers should be taxed/charged more for their health care, what about the growing obese population? For more on the subject pop over to:
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| Posted over 5 years ago Some diabetics also have juvenille diabetes and type 1. For which they can not help. Type 2 is mainly due to overweight and nutrition issues. Some obese people also have thyroid problems for which they can not help either. Granted many people are obese because of poor choices in life but does that give the insurance co. the right to increase insurance? They increase insurance just because. Do not let them have anymore pull in they way we need care than they already do. A healthy person is denied coverage for certain reasons. A healthy person can not get meds because they are too expensive or can not get certain procedures because of the ins. co. I am a smoker and already pay more in car insurance and health and life. But that is my choice, bad, but still the same. Some people do not chose to be obese or a diabetic. That is very broad to have the insuranc co have a say in the matter. They are already a joke. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I agree wholeheartedly with ctrum6414. First) many obese people have a medical condition which causes or adds to their weight gain. The majority of obese people do not prefer to be this way. It is not a conscious choice for them like smoking. Type 2 diabetes is mostly due to a sedentary lifestyle in middle age people. Poor food choices contribute, as well. 2) smoking is a conscious decision and I believe on most health insurance applications, it will ask if you are a smoker and already deducts points for that.3) most importantly-insurance companies already deal with way too many decisions regarding our health issues. I don't want them any more involved than they are. You open this door and it's no telling what will walk in. 3) You can say Don't Smoke but you can't say Don't Eat. People who are predisposed to type 2 diabetes need education and awareness of preventive measures, such as exercise & good food choices. Maybe concentrating on prevention instead of higher insurance costs is the answer. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Interesting as Australia has a very different type of Health system, yes we have some private health Insurance but our country has State run hospitals, free (well kind of) in that we have a general tax levy workers pay to have the hospitals run. Government hospitals are the majority and there fore tax payers foot ALL the bills for our nations health costs.
On a personal level, we nurse whoever is in front of us. When I get my handover sheet each day, thats who I am looking after, despite the fact they've smoked , eaten too much, or been a drug uses. And while I do disdain of people who haven't made good choices there is NO easy answer.
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| Posted over 5 years ago Insead of penalizing those with food and substance abuse issues, why not put efforts into prevention and education. Give insurance rates savings on people who try to live better. I have been seeing a nutritionist that has helped me immensley. I have at least 50 pounds to loose and her care is not covered by my insurance.
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| Posted over 5 years ago If you really look at it the majority of the obese are low income people. Next time you go to the store lookat the prices of the freash veg. and healthy cuts of meat and compare the prices to the rice potatoes .Look at the cheap cuts of meat they are usually high in fat. So they have to buy what they can afford. And most diabetics who are out of control eat what they can afford plus they try to streatch their med. which contributes to the problem.Then the doctors charge 75 to 125 for visit so they have to use hospitals for basic treatments.granted this is not the only reason but I know it is mine. When I can afford to eat right and take my meds on a reg. bases my weight goes down then we get fin. strained and it is back to the cheap stuff,the weight goes up and the problem's start. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago That is true. Healthy foods are more expensive than high fat, high calories, etc. My mother is an RD and she has her own weight loss program for a community. The community is low income. She can teach these people how to lose weight and what to eat but she still hears the same problems: they can not afford the healthier food choices. McDonalds and other rest. have dollar menus, which makes dinners fast and cheap. These are just the way things are for some people.
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| Posted over 5 years ago JennaJay: I love you but I have to disagree with you on this. You said you have a disdain of people who make the wrong choices. That's a broad statement. I'm sure we've all made the wrong choice at some point in our lives. ( I made the wrong choice twice in husbands). None of us are perfect." Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. " I have been poor. I remember being pregnant and the Dr. telling me I shouldn't eat potted meat and hot dogs when that was all I could afford. The healthier foods are more expensive in the grocery stores. And some of it has to do with education. Alot of people just might not know what foods are best for them or what foods to avoid. Also, as a type 2 diabetic, I can tell you it's extremely difficult to make good food choices every day . Too, in this hectic world of today, we are so busy and sometimes don't have the time to prepare a good meal. It's quicker and easier to grab fast food. I could go on and on. Don't be so quick to judge until you've walked in someone's elses shoes. It's not always cut and dried-black and white. I've found that most things in life fall somewhere in between-in that fuzzy gray area. Like you said-"the problem is many pronged." ps I still love you. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago charlita said: You hit the Nail on the Head! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago But as Jenna was saying - the responsibility needs to be put on the food manufactures to make less crap. Totally agree positive health promotion is key, but brainwashing only works on people with a brain (I'm being daft, not contraversial!) |
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| Posted over 5 years ago that's so funny-"brainwashing only works if you have a brain!" I love it! that's my new favorite saying |

