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Posted almost 4 years ago

 

I have a few old charges on my record they are shoplifting. Do you think that will stop me from becoming a nurse? I'm taking my pre-reqs now.

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Rated: +1 | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

I hope so. One shoplifting charge... OK.. maybe TWO shoplifting charges... but a FEW?

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Rated: -1 | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

I think background checks only go back 10 years.


shan4691

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Rate This | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

Yeah, a few I use to do it I had my reasons.

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Rate This | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

How far back do they go and exactly how many times were you busted for shoplifting....depending it could still catch up with you.

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Rate This | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

Hire an attorney to expunge your record[s]. Make sure you do this in any jurisdiction you got these charges in. BUT, if you haven't learned your lesson from multiple charges nursing, or any medical field, is probably not for you. Generally felonies automatically disqualify you from any professional certifications (except being a lawyer). But multiple serious convictions even if misdemeanors can show moral turpitude which can also disqualify you.


If in doubt contact your state's board of nursing or licensing. And keep your hands outta my stuff!

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Rate This | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

I know a girl who had a DUI and still got a license.  Please go for it but find out for sure in your state because if you get a degree in nursing but no license what will you do.  I don't pass judgement on you...people change. 

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Rated: +1 | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

It depends a lot on the nature of the charges, and how long ago the charges were.  If the charges are more than 10 years old, the Board will be more likely to grant a license, though you may have to appear before the board and plead your case.


Even if they were misdemeanors, if there is any kind of theft there, you may have a hard time getting both a job and a license.  The Board doesn't want to license anyone who might be tempted to steal from patients.


Drugs are a different issue.  Especially if there is a long time lapse, the board is likely to grant you a license, though they may restrict it at first--meaning you have to be supervised while passing narcs.  If drug charges, or a DUI is recent, you may have to finish a chemical dependency program approved by the board, and then your handling of narcs will be supervised for a while, but you can probably get a license.


If there is any kind of violent felony, the odds are not in your favor.  The Board will not be inclined to grant a license to someone who might harm a patient.


If the charges are old, ask the court to expunge them.  Then you don't even have to admit to them.


The background check will only show convictions, not arrests.  Innocent until proven guilty.


Bear in mind, some nursing schools are requireing background checks of prospective students.  My school will be beginning them this year of both students AND faculty--although it is at the request of ONE (not all) of our clinic sites and not because we want to do background checks.


ADN programs at community colleges will generally still admit students with criminal backgrounds because most CC's have open admissions policies--we can't turn away students who otherwise qualify for the program.  However, we warn students graduation and passage of the NCLEX does not mean the Board has to grant a license.  They have the right to refuse licensure to anyone.


Checking with the Board is a good idea as they will take a better view of that than keeping it a secret until the last minute.

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Rate This | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

I've learned my lesson maybe I should get a lawyer to look into it for me.  It's been years ago.

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Rated: +3 | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

EVERYONE makes mistakes look into it. Go to the board and talk to them.  If their mis. I dont see how that can stop you. But to be on the sure side ask someone for the board. I would'nt pay anyone up here that had something neg. to say  any mind , who are they anyway. I know it took alot for you to come out and ask. I'll pray for your blessing.

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Rate This | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

Well I for one hope that it does'nt prevent you from getting nursing lic.  Talk to someone in the courts and see what they tell you.

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Rate This | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

Just because you did something dumb a while ago does not make you a bad person . look into there away you can get aroud it.

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Rate This | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

I can't say anything bad about you, because when your back is up aganist the just look into . If its no felony I think that you will be fine. God bless

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Rated: +1 | Posted almost 4 years ago

 

Background checks DO show arrests too. Don't kid yourself. And they go back (or can) farther than any 10 years. I can attest to that personally. In 1995 I was asked to explain an assault charge. I couldn't recall one so they helped me. It had happened in 1967! When I had just turned 17! I had not tried to cover anything up but nobody had ever asked me about something that happened so long ago.


Employers also do background checks. Take my advice and have these records expunged if possible.

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Rate This | Posted over 3 years ago

 

I think that they look for abuse to children and adults Im not sure that's something you should look into>

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Rated: -1 | Posted over 3 years ago

 

       Different state boards have different standards.  The state law systems are different as well.  These being said, it does show that you have a a flaw in your thinking.  I know it has been a while, but if you have a history your more likely to do it again as you stepped over the line before.  If I were in human resources I would have to be hard up for personell before I would hire any type of criminal.  The job environment is tight now so we will see.  Good luck and I know you are sorry for your past mistake, but you did and were caught and most other did not and have clean records; which would you want to hire to assure the safety and wellbeing of your workplace?


 


- Tim, R.N.


 


there are two types of people in life: those who do and those who do not, period.

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Rated: +1 | Posted over 2 years ago

 

This is TIm, R.N.


 


How can you be so judgmental? People make mistakes and all you will do is judge. How about hate the sin and not the sinner.  Everyone deserves a second chance. You do not understand people's lives and why thngs happened or why they did what they did. Talk about wellbeing of a workplace you seem arrogant and cold hearted.. have any beside manners! And you do not have to label them as a criminal show some respect this person deserves it.


 


As for issues on a license. In the State of Indiana, they can not deny you one. You will have to go in front of a board to plead your case beofre you take the test. As for felony convictions no felony can be expunged only a pardon but if the felony is 15 yrs you can get an attoeny and have it sealed. This way only the law enforcement can see it.  And brace your self TIm, the day is coming when it will not matter if that person has a felony or not.


Do not be judgmental, this could very easily be you, and  I have seen nurses who have become drug addicts.


Molly


 

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Rated: +1 | Posted over 2 years ago

 

People do make mistakes in their past and do turn over new leafs and grow beyond their mistakes. Myself I had been a drug addict and engaged in criminal activity. I was only arrested once and charged for a misdemeaner crime and later had my records sealed and it has been almost 20 years since that time of my life. I have been clean from drugs for over 17 years now. I do live a completely different life then I did back then. So please don't pass judgement on people because of their mistakes made in the past.


Now with that said my wife is a recruiter at a local hospital. She is the one that orders the background checks. The background checks go back with NO TIME LIMIT. So when you see on an application it asking about your criminal past be completely open and honest. I know for fact they have hired people with a past history because the people were open and honest about it and explained their past when HR asked. On the flip side people have not disclosed their past and were denied the position when the background check was ran because the candidate was not honest about their past. So again be completely honest.

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Rated: -1 | Posted over 1 year ago

 

need a background check for employeement for carol niessen

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Rated: +1 | Posted over 1 year ago

 

Gosh, as a moderator on ths site, I find this topic to be very sticky.. I just have to say, we should never judge any one, unless we have walked in their shoes..Teresa

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Rated: +1 | Posted over 1 year ago

 

In some states (probably a majority), expungement is not possible if you have more than one criminal offense.  If a recidivist for the same crime, I really think you would have a tough time getting it sealed or expunged no matter how much time has passed.  Many states list the requirements for expungement online.  That would be your cheapest and best bet initially.  Since it has been more than a year since your post, I am curious to know if you made it into a BSN or ADN program.


Also, I am wondering what the future is supposed to hold for offenders who, after years of being an honest law-abiding citizen, are still being denied jobs because of their record.  Are those people expected to never achieve their career aspirations because of mistakes made in the past?  Do they deserve to work in fast food or other low-paying jobs for the rest of their lives?  Should they throw away any desire to have a family because they cannot get a job that pays enough to support more than one person? 


Many of these questions are answered every day by HR employees who don't give people a chance to prove themselves.  But at the same time, who can blame them for choosing a similarly qualified candidate who has no criminal record?  It's a tough situation with no easy answer.


Expungement may be viable for those with just one offense but many people have more than one. Is there hope for them?  They will be labeld 'criminal' for the rest of their lives no matter how long ago the offense occurred.  What those people who have never been arrested or have no criminal record don't realize is that the punishment is not what the court orders, it's the humiliation and shame the person has to go through each and every time he or she applies for a job-for the rest of their lives in most cases.  A misdemeanor shoplifting charge may as well be listed as a felony because it probably has a similar effect for any job of responsibility.  It is a crime of dishonesty.  Crimes of dishonesty are a serious professional stigma not easily circumvented.  With multiple shoplifting charges, I can't help but think life is going to be much more difficult for you than the average person if you cannot get them sealed or don't have a pretty exceptional explanation.  But of course you are at the mercy of whoever is making the decision.  No decision-maker is the same unless they have rules that specifically disqualify you because of a specific criminal offense.  Even when sealed, criminal records can still be found by more than policing agencies.


Even if you were arrested but never charged with a crime or it was dismissed, it is still there and most people will view it as the same as a conviction.  This is my personal opinion but who is going to look at a dismissed crime as something that shouldn't be considered when hiring for a position?  They will envitably side with the arresting agency in believing the person did something wrong no matter the eventual disposition and they may even be correct in thinking so.  The outlook for anyone who has been arrested or even accused of a crime is much more dreary than those with a completely clean background check.  People with a completely clean background should never take that for granted because in some instances it is more important than your actual ability to perform in a profession. 


The above information is purely my opinion based on some research I have done.  It, of course, should not be relied upon.


As others have noted, the best way to get a rather definitive answer is to contact the licensing board and ask them.


Best of luck to those with the same or similar worries.  You are not alone.


 

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Rate This | Posted over 1 year ago

 

To the post below, Thank you for the information.. Teresa

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Rate This | Posted 11 months ago

 

I've beat many odds. Always had a clean record till the weekend before the nursing program.


I went out to celebrate, had a wonderful and great time. And all I remember was coming back home SAFELY but real intoxicated to call it for the night. I went to bed.


Only to be waken from ex after my cell and pockets were searched. Woke me up aggresively. Intuitively, I assaulted my ex out my house and went back to bed as I thought it was only a nightmare. Only to find cops waiting for me outside when I really woke up.


Now I'm tainted because I wasn't assertive in kicking this person out of my house when I should've, especially when I was arrested and I remember nothing about it because i was taken advantage of my state of mind.


 

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Rate This | Posted 11 months ago

 

Now I'm one month from finishing the program and I'm in total fear. I decided to continue the program regardless by this one force: Passion

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Rate This | Posted 11 months ago

 

Hiya, Best of luck to you.. I admire your passion.. God bless you in all of your future endeavors... Hugs, Teresa

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Rate This | Posted 11 months ago

 

HI...


I am accepted into an ADN program starting this Fall... I have an incidnet that happened when I was 17.  I am now 41... (23 yrs ago) Was a PI / arrest. I never went to court. Spent a few hours in jail that was it.  


I wrote to the TX BON.  Waiting for them to decide my fate... I did the background check for my school.  It came back CLEAR.. I even gave the date, etc... So then I did my own fingerprint review with the TXDPS... it came back CLEAR...


So... my question is will this keep the BON from allowing me to be cleared and... Does the school have to have a clearance from the BON if I have a clear record....


I am so sick to my stomach... The only reason i went to jail was because my friend was being arrested and I told the officer if he was going to take her, he could take me too.. so he did... STUPID of me but I was 17..... I don't drink, smoke or do drugs.. I pray that the TX BON is understanding...

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Rate This | Posted 11 months ago

 

 Hi, I am currently a junior nursing student. I was recently arrested for shoplifting and was charged with disorderly conduct. I was wondering if this would affect my schooling. Background checks are done every year and I am very worried that I will be kicked out of the nursing program. 


I plan on getting the the charges expluged, but it won't be soon enough. Please help!! Any advice or words of wisdom would help. I don't know how long I have to wait to get it expluged.


Please help. I really don't want such a stupid desicion I made once ruin my future. 

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Rate This | Posted 11 months ago

 

Ouch!! Not sure what state you are in. But in TX I believe that you have to notify your Nursing Dept. Head and the Board of Nursing.  Not sure what happens..If you can clear it up  before anyone finds out, that would be good for you... Chances of it showing up on your background are pretty high... Honestly, honesty is always the best way to go... Even if it bites you... Hopefully you wont be kicked out because I think you are unable to re-enroll for a while... Not sure...  Would suck to work your butt off in school and not be able to have it pay off for you.... Best of luck to you.... 

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Rate This | Posted 11 months ago

 

 I am in PA...

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Rate This | Posted 11 months ago

 

Also... I would go to an attorney ASAP and get things started....  Get their advice.... :)

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