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Is there really a nursing shortage?

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Nothing changes in the area of finding jobs/changing lives.  If you like what you have, then keep on doing what you have been doing.  If you want a change, then do some things differently.  The possibly over sensitive here escape me, as I see the flaws in attitude of  unemployed recent grad and the strengths of the advice from T, who is just trying to help and stop the cryin' unemployed/unemployable by choice with candid suggestions.


I've been around a few decades, and notice that people always seem to do what they want to do, no matter what it is they are saying.


 


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Well good, then when you leave the field there will be room for one more. If thats how you really feel about it you dont belong doing this Job! Sure some days are hell, but at the end of the day you still love your job because you care and because you are good at it! NOT because you thought you would make more money and it would guarante you a job all the time. I personally will stand up and applaud when you quit!


 


 



Since this is anonymous I will just let loose.  (yes I have no guts) I am sick of people like you with your "holier than thou"  attitude.  If you are just a  laid back person who doesn't let anything get to you than fine, I am jealous...but I get very frustrated with the way things are.  Administration treats staff nurses like sh**, lots of MD's treat nurses like sh**, people who are admitted to the hospital every month with the same complaints, then they and their family treat the staff like sh**.  Dietary staff bring patients cold food, housekeeping staff can't even put toilet paper in the patients bathrooms.  The TV attendant turns off your patients TV cause they didn't pay for two days.  I heat up meals, make fresh coffee, find toliet paper, and call the TV office repeatedly, and still find time to give meds, provide care, teach a little and reassure patients that they are going to be ok.  I mostly LOVE this job but when I complete my masters in administration and become a DON you will LOVE working for me cuz you can do real nursing, not near slave work!!   I will personally stand up and applaud when all nurses can work in a healthy environment providing the care they yearn to provide. 


Everyone let loose on me with how bitter I am but I think the state of affairs for nurses right now is disgusting, and I believe "IF YOU'RE NOT ANGRY YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION!!" 




PS  I don't know about a nursing shortage but rumor has it my hospital is in a hiring freeze,  (upstate NY) 

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Well good, then when you leave the field there will be room for one more. If thats how you really feel about it you dont belong doing this Job! Sure some days are hell, but at the end of the day you still love your job because you care and because you are good at it! NOT because you thought you would make more money and it would guarante you a job all the time. I personally will stand up and applaud when you quit!


 


 



Since this is anonymous I will just let loose.  (yes I have no guts) I am sick of people like you with your "holier than thou"  attitude.  If you are just a  laid back person who doesn't let anything get to you than fine, I am jealous...but I get very frustrated with the way things are.  Administration treats staff nurses like sh**, lots of MD's treat nurses like sh**, people who are admitted to the hospital every month with the same complaints, then they and their family treat the staff like sh**.  Dietary staff bring patients cold food, housekeeping staff can't even put toilet paper in the patients bathrooms.  The TV attendant turns off your patients TV cause they didn't pay for two days.  I heat up meals, make fresh coffee, find toliet paper, and call the TV office repeatedly, and still find time to give meds, provide care, teach a little and reassure patients that they are going to be ok.  I mostly LOVE this job but when I complete my masters in administration and become a DON you will LOVE working for me cuz you can do real nursing, not near slave work!!   I will personally stand up and applaud when all nurses can work in a healthy environment providing the care they yearn to provide. 


Everyone let loose on me with how bitter I am but I think the state of affairs for nurses right now is disgusting, and I believe "IF YOU'RE NOT ANGRY YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION!!" 




PS  I don't know about a nursing shortage but rumor has it my hospital is in a hiring freeze,  (upstate NY) 



If you would reread my post and then the post I was reffereing to than you just MIGHT see that you and I have pretty much the same opinion. So why are you ragging on me?

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Personally, I love nurses and what they do and how they do it under such often difficult circumstances.  I have a sister RN and a NP or two on my Christmas list.


 

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I agree we are treated like s**t by hospitals and many doctors. We always have been and always will be unless we change it. BSN should be entry level for RN. Grandfather all present RNs. Do away with LPN. And join a union.

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Do away with LPN?????? You just started a whole new topic here. What about all those LPN's out there that are 5-10 years away from retirement? You suggest we just say to hell with you? You've got the title so no worries right? How utterly inconsiderate of you!

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How about traveling nurse......get the experience, pay, travel to different places will open your mind to other states for work.

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FYI:  travel companies will not hire new grads.  They want at least one year of experience in the field you plan to work, even if it's "just med surg" (there's no "just" in my view of med surg nursing).

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I don't know about a nursing shortage. I do know that as a newly minted LPN, no one will hire me as a full time worker in a facility. Being as I just got licensed, I want to work where I can get a little experience. I don't feel confident enough to do agency work yet, despite the promise of training.  I have seen the training.  Three days of  "this is this and that is that" and then OUT WITH YOU. 


I DO know a lot of nurses who are working...   haven't been any help to me


yes I realize I sound like a spoiled child.    thank you

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Have you applied to a local VA hospital? There are VA facilities in most cities, and they are a great place to get started. There will be tens of thousands of medical positions opening up in VA facilities in the next 4 years. I have been in the VA system for years, and have been able to transfer around to other VA facilites in the country without having to get a new license for each state, or losing my time. Yes, it is different than the "outside world" - I have worked on  the outside as both a staff nurse and as  a contracted agency nurse,  but there are alot of opportunities. The vets are a great population to work with, and I really missed them alot when I was working elsewhere - that's why I came back. Check it out - it is definitely well worth it - and I encourage LPNs and CNA to do the same.

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I have 20 years of nursing experience and I am having trouble finding a job. So, I'm at the other end of the spectrum. I was out of nursing for 10 years, went back part time for 8 months at a hospital where I had worked before, but left because of schedule conflicts with my other part time job. One year later, I can't seem to get a positive reply to any on-line applications.  I'm beginning to think you have to know someone that has connections where you want to work in order to get hired.  It's very frustrating to hear about the national nursing shortage, and to see all of the ads on the internet, and then not get any response to applications.  What's going on?

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I hear all of you out there I am an LPN in Kentucky and yes if you go to Louisville or Lexington you can find jobs, right now I can't move hours away nor do I want to leave my family and life behind. there are over 10 different hospitals, nursing homes, clinics and doctor's offices and I still can't find a job. The economy is determining whether there is a nursing shortage, my friends that are nurses have 20 -30 patients per nurse. Too many for any nurse to have. Because of the nursing freeze; GOD willing we will all get through this.

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 I am a nursing student in the LPN program, hopefully going on into the RN program. Live in Louisville, KY. Just from the brief observations I've made at the clinical sites I've been at .... it all comes down to MONEY. Yes, they definitely need more staffing, but the pocketbooks higher up will only fund the minimal amount of staff, especially in the nursing homes. They are going by what medicare stipulates as the MINIMUM. Very sad.

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Have you applied to a local VA hospital? There are VA facilities in most cities, and they are a great place to get started. There will be tens of thousands of medical positions opening up in VA facilities in the next 4 years. I have been in the VA system for years, and have been able to transfer around to other VA facilites in the country without having to get a new license for each state, or losing my time. Yes, it is different than the "outside world" - I have worked on  the outside as both a staff nurse and as  a contracted agency nurse,  but there are alot of opportunities. The vets are a great population to work with, and I really missed them alot when I was working elsewhere - that's why I came back. Check it out - it is definitely well worth it - and I encourage LPNs and CNA to do the same.



The VA was my first choice of where to work, but when their limited budget couldn't afford to hire me I've been looking everywhere else, with no luck. I am hoping that the new fiscal year will bring me a job, so we'll see...everyone keep your fingers crossed for me and a new grad job!


-Pearlferret

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To OP - HANG IN THERE! I understand how you feel, about 4 years ago I went through the same thing you are currently going through. What I ended up doing was taking a job in the northern part of my state (approx 150 miles away) This was a weekender position and I roomed with a cousin of mine who lived in this city and went home during the week. I continued applying on the internet for jobs at hospitals in my area and eventually I got a call (about a year later). It is still very hard to find a job in my area but I am glad I found this one. HANG IN THERE and try doing something like this which is a temporary inconvenience. You might have to drive long distances or work somewhere you don't want to but once the job you want sees that you have experience they will hire you, Just make sure you have EXCELLENT references from your employer, so do your best and go the extra mile to take care of your patients, learn new things and be a team player. Don't burn your bridges!  In nursing they really check your references, no one wants to hire a "bad nurse"........Take care and wish you all the best.....Don't give up,  the job will come....God Bless!

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I'm a nurse who graduated last August with my BSN also. I was one of the 1st of my friends from school that started looking for jobs and soon noticed that finding a job would not be easy. The October internships were taken and the next ones that would open weren't until February. I too was shocked and outraged when I realized this. Yes, there is still a nursing shortage, but the hospitals aren't financially able to invest in all the training required for graduate nurses. The internship I got started in February of this year. I was finally able to get my job in neuro ICU (I would have been happy in anything with critical care). It really helped that I was able to get my Godmother to recommend me (she works at that hospital too).


 However, I recently found out about a company that recruits nurses nationwide to give flu shots from September to December. The link is:  http://jobs.flushotsusa.com/joinourteam.aspx  for Mollen Imunization Clinics. Graduate nurses without experience are welcome! My friend who got her license in December, finally got her job with them without experience. They hire RNs to work at all types of places that provide flu shots like CVS and Walgreens.


I hope this helps. Good luck.


 

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FYI the above link is also for nurses who were out of the field for a while who are looking for work.

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I'm working on pre-reqs before I can enter Nursing school so I have a few years before I'll be ready to enter the market as a New Grad and I'm hopeful that this recession will have recovered by the time I graduate (4-5 years from now). 


However, I wanted to play devil's advocate....what if I were in your shoes?  


So, I did a search in my area (San Diego).  I went to www.indeed.com and searched for New Grad RN within 100 miles of my home zip code.   There were only a couple in San Diego (we have several nursing schools so this didn't surprise me).  But there were 86 total records returned!!  Of the 86 records, maybe 15-20% were using the term "no new grads" so those had to be scrubbed out.  But that left at least 60 more that ARE CURRENTLY HIRING NEW GRADS.  Several of these were posted just this week so I have a hard time believing they are open positions that they refuse to fill.  


According to the search results, everything our seasoned veterans have been telling us is true.    It's the outlying areas that are hiring new grads.   Places like Fountain Valley, Lakewood, Moreno Valley.  These are areas in Riverside County, between LA and San Diego.


They would be about an hour and a half commute (one way) and that would really suck but if the hospitals close to home want 1 year's experience then I would make that commute........with the plan of documenting all of my experience along the way and once I had 9 months under my belt, I'd be re-submitting resumes to my local hospitals.   Since I have a background in Staffing, I am all too familiar with the hiring process (reviewing stacks of resumes, interviewing dozens of people, doing a 2nd interview with a handful, meeting to decide whom to make the offer to, presenting the offer and then negotiating terms, etc).  By the time this process was complete, the 1 year experience would be under my belt.


I can make that commute 3 or 4 days a week if I know there's an end in sight.  And 1 year flies a lot faster than it used to.


1feistymama

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FYI the above link is also for nurses who were out of the field for a while who are looking for work.



Yeah, haha good luck with actually getting more than 12 hours a MONTH with them. They have hired so may people they dont know what to do with them all. Hire Johnny on the spot over the freakin phone......bad omen.

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FYI the above link is also for nurses who were out of the field for a while who are looking for work.



Yeah, haha good luck with actually getting more than 12 hours a MONTH with them. They have hired so may people they dont know what to do with them all. Hire Johnny on the spot over the freakin phone......bad omen.


 


BAD OMAN MAN


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 I am in Indiana and considering getting a nursing degree.  I have been laid off from my employer of 25 years and not finding any jobs that match my profile of management and customer service.  All I see are nursing jobs posted.


 


Yeh, by the time you grad. from nursing school the economy may be turned.  could be a great idea.  peace out


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Yes in some areas more than others.

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Get the gloves on boys.  We can sell tickets and donate all the money to the rectal cancer foundation.  I want to see it after I get the popcorn ready here.

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A friend of mine, who is a nurse, said there are two nurse positions open at her place of employment, both full time, and they have been open for over a year.  so i am sure it all depends on location, location, location.


by the way this is in MA

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If there is a nursing shortage, why is it so darned expensive to go to school to be one?

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Wow you guys are quite mean to one another on this site. I'm in CA. Graduated June 08 with my BSN. Had one job that didn't work out - tiny hospital that decided they didn't want to continue hiring a new grad. I was like the 4th new grad in a decade. So their orientation was not very organized to say the least. Anyway, I moved twice, several hours away from my home city to be near new grad programs/jobs and nothing has worked out so far. Every new grad position is at a standstill in California. Plus the colleges keep pumping out new grads so the competition for jobs gets even harder. It's totally crazy. My friends are going through the same thing. Many are still looking just like me. Some have gone back into their former positions. People can't believe we can't find jobs with everybody stating there is a nursing shortage.


 Im just hanging in and staying vigilant. Something has to change here soon.

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Wow you guys are quite mean to one another on this site. I'm in CA. Graduated June 08 with my BSN. Had one job that didn't work out - tiny hospital that decided they didn't want to continue hiring a new grad. I was like the 4th new grad in a decade. So their orientation was not very organized to say the least. Anyway, I moved twice, several hours away from my home city to be near new grad programs/jobs and nothing has worked out so far. Every new grad position is at a standstill in California. Plus the colleges keep pumping out new grads so the competition for jobs gets even harder. It's totally crazy. My friends are going through the same thing. Many are still looking just like me. Some have gone back into their former positions. People can't believe we can't find jobs with everybody stating there is a nursing shortage.


 Im just hanging in and staying vigilant. Something has to change here soon.


 


 



       Hang in there, and yes, the posters on the anonymous Zone seem to get rude more often, sorry about that.  We get a lot of reports from various places in CA about nursing employment hard times so no surprise with the New Grad situation in your part of the country.  It is similar in many other pockets of the nation as well.  If your willing to move more there is Austin and San Antonio (great towns in Texas) which are booming now.  Austin rocks for youth and those into music.  Anyways good luck, and welcome to Nursing; the market will get better.


 


Cheers - Tim, R.N.

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I am sure some places have a shortage and some do not. Northeastern Ohio seems to have positions open in both hospitals and long term facilities.  Hope this helps

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Kaduh. I said Texas.


Somebody said above "there are X number of schools" putting out RN grads. Well kaduh again - get the hell out of there.


Another poster said to take a "shit" job. AGREE! At 60 I have a hard time feeling anything but a little empathetic for those starting out. I started in 1980 in the middle of a "Tah Dah" RECESSION! My first RN job paid $6.05 an hour and I had to change with the handymen! I was a male nurse so "the doctors" (jerks all) objected to me changing in THEIR lounge.


I worked EVERY stinking holidayand that includes the days before and the days after. Seasoned nurses asked me to cover shifts for them so they could do something special. But I had frineds visit unexpectedly who wanted to go skiing and guess what? Not a single tramp would pay me back (lesson new grads: screw whoever asks to "trade" shifts unless it really benefits you right them because they WON'T remember and pay you back I PROMISE!!!!!!)


Bottom line: go where the work is and be damned glad you even got it!


 


Fucking ten miles in the snow!


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Re: comment on difficulty and switching statements...


1. I am a well-rounded seasoned nurse of decades; finding only jobs for: ICU, ED, L&D, miscellany - requiring "3-5 years experience with ACLS, BLS, PALS, TNCC", and other certifications. Beyond the usual: vaccinations updated (including flu), medical capacities, background checks (to include medical, financial, work-related). I don't know about all of you, but my pee is GOLD! Everyone wants it and everyone wants their own cup of urine!


I am finding employment searching very difficult for the first time!


2. On switching assignments, I have had that experience & by the nurse who became my supervisor and without any sort of consideration to me at all! (just unbelievable is the usual response!)