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foreign Nurses Taking the Place of LPNs?

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Nana_and_grandkids_minus_noah_max50

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someone mentioned (on this site) that the US is importing foreign RNs to help with the upcoming nursing shortage. This is ridiculous-with so many LPNs here, readily available and at a lower pay scale too. Many hospitals have phased out LPNs completely. This doesn't make sense.

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Char, so true... Most LPNs are in office/clinic settings, long gone are the days of LPNs on the ward. I have a friend that was an LPN in ED; she was offered to be the unit clerk, or tech... One week later, no more LPNs in ED, just RNs and techs, rest of the jr LPNs got the boot. Some nursing homes are going RNs & CNAs staff only. I see a trend happening that will drive health care cost even further up. Most level 1&2 facilities will be RN and Techs/CNAs only. LPNs will staff the AFCs & group homes.

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I don't know. I can't see them phasing out LPNs in the LTC setting. They are a valuable resource there (tho that is my last choice in nursing) I lost a job in an assisted living facility to med techs. The cost for them is less than for a LPN. But I think this is a scarey situation. Med Techs don't have enougth training in giving the medications-the rationale behind it-the side effects.I know alot of places around here are using med techs all the time instead of LPNs.

Al_chamizo_max50

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I see this around NY, Chicago, LA and San Francisco... There is definitely a trend. Remember, these rules or practices are made by DONs (Damn Old Nurse) with alphabet soup parading behind their name. At their 5 minutes of "shine" with the board of directors they come up with budget cuts and patient improvement plans. Medicare has allot to do with staffing also, so does if the facility wants to stay competitive in the private sector.

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I love that one Al -DON=damn old nurse-but unfortunately in alot of places I've worked, the DON isn't even a nurse (tho she may be damn old)

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When I was in practical nursing school many moons ago there was talk about phasing them out, but over the years our local hospitals and nursing homes are re-hiring LPNs. Now our Dr. offices are using MAs or CNAs because the cost is cheaper than a LPN. I am of the mind that you can always learn something every day. I started out as a CNA and over the years became a RN (for the money) and I can honestly say that I learned more about a facility and my patients from the LPNs and CNAs than I ever learned from a RN. I think every RN should be trained by an LPN at some time during their orientation at a facitliy.

Nana_and_grandkids_minus_noah_max50

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thanks for the vote of confidence and the pat on the back. We don't get enough of that!

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It is a shame beacause ALL nursing staff should work as a team. We can all be valuable resources for each other no matter what comes behind our names.

Al_chamizo_max50

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shan4691 said:

It is a shame beacause ALL nursing staff should work as a team. We can all be valuable resources for each other no matter what comes behind our names.

Shan, I do agree very much with you. We are all in this together. We are in the business of improving the quality of life of our patient and no one can achieve that by themselves, though some doctors believe they can. From the receptionist that welcomes the patient all the way to the research scientist, our one goal is to make a difference by improving the quality of life through the gifts or our profession.

Nana_and_grandkids_minus_noah_max50

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Al: where did you come from? Are you one of those angels here on earth?

Al_chamizo_max50

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Char, you are making me blush. No angel here, trust me. I truly do feel passionate about the gift of life and I do morn about the loss of it. I also believe that I am no greater than the sum of the whole. I see the patient care staff as body, with a head, arms, legs, ears, eyes, etc... If our body does not function well, we cannot perform well, hence we comprises our abilities, same thing in our profession, we are the body and together we have the power to sometime even bring the dead back to life.

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Al: I like this !

Al_chamizo_max50

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I cannot achieve anything without the rest of the body... Coordinated effort, as I use to call it. I wrote a post of why I choose this vocation, one does not become, it becomes you.

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Al, you seem really passionate about your career, and I totally admire that! I bet you are easy to get along with at work. You've got your priorities right. Keep on doing well!

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ccb, we all have that passion, some just show it otwardly more than others.

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al_chamizo said:

ccb, we all have that passion, some just show it otwardly more than others.

True, Now we just have to reach down and bring the passion back up as time goes on.

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Yea, like a marriage... As time goes on, the bon fire has to be re-kindled to keep the fire from burning out.

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Advanceweb.com

New-grad LPNs often find themselves holding supervisory positions sooner than they expect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Joe Darrah

Once new grads grasp their practical nursing diplomas, their expectations begin to rise. With just a licensure exam standing in their way, their dreams of becoming nurses are that much closer to coming true.

While many facilities are developing more sophisticated orientation programs to ease the new-grad-to-new-nurse transition, employment opportunities for LPNs are becoming more demanding as the nursing shortage pervades all areas of healthcare. And with more opportunity comes more responsibility, even for new grads.

Green Hills, an assisted living facility medication-pass training program for the facility’s nursing aide staff LPNs are needed for charge positions and sometimes hold administrative roles. New-grad LPNs can be assigned supervisory positions in acute care, assisted living and home care where nurse’s aides are employed.

‘I’M AN LPN; I CAN LEAD’

Christine Kline, LPN, also knows what it’s like to be thrust into a leadership position soon after taking a nursing job. A member of the June 2005 graduating class Kline, 41, earned her LPN by July of that year and took a job as a med/surg staff nurse that summer.

At Reading Hospital, all LPNs are responsible for assisting RNs with delegating tasks to nurses’ aides and patient-care technicians on their units, Kline said, adding that this duty provides a sense of authority as well as clinical management.

‘YOU’RE AN LPN; YOU CAN LEAD’

Also sensing a need to refine LPN responsibilities when she joined Green Hills, Kline initiated a staffing change that called for LPNs to be designated “unit supervisors” to oversee nursing aides. Kline knew that their practical nursing education helped prepare them for such responsibility, so she assigned Melanie Hartzell, LPN, and Wendy Weitzel, LPN, 10 aides each, the total number of support staff on the day and evening shifts.

As supervisors, Hartzell and Weitzel are responsible for delegating assignments, overseeing med passes and documentation, and ensuring that aides sign off all completed tasks.

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Maybe with so many LPNs deciding to continue on through school, they don't last long enough anymore in one job. 

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I think it is that way, with CNA"S too, I've been in school for nearly, 9 years part-time, because I worked full-time, and changed careers in between begining some of my RN preriqusistes. You get tired. I think will  you  have longer longivity working as a RN, if you go straight thorough, work with the CNA OR LVN license for a brief times, save your strenght for the RN school, and working as a RN.


I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health.