LOL, mr brown, you either need to turn on fox, or go down to Wallyworld and shell out for a $5 set of headphones for you puter (I don't have speakers either, and headphones are a heck of a lot cheaper)

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=108707

You have to read the entire link, to get to the meat of the matter.  But in answer to your question, yes this is the video made by Ashton Kutcher, but it has been shown in schools recently.

Turn on FOX whatever for, overmade up ignorant caustic blond women or bloated middle aged men using loofahs in odd places. HHMMM  sounds like the south to me.

Turn on FOX whatever for, overmade up ignorant caustic blond women or bloated middle aged men using loofahs in odd places. HHMMM  sounds like the south to me.

My point is, if your missing something and can't access the internet to get the full picture maybe you should watch what we are.  How can you argue with something if your missing the big picture.  I've taken the time to read lots of things that I disagree with.  That is debate 101.  You'll either have more fuel for your argument or another point of view. 

I've raised my kids using an old gardening philosphy.  When a young tree is planted, it is flexible.   The tree needs to have some support for the first bit.  Not too much support, or the roots, never have any incentive to grow on their own.  If a young tree is supported by stakes and ties for too long, when it is grown, and a large windy thunderstoom comes along, the roots are all in a ball, and haven't stretched out to reach their full potential.  The soil gets wet, and the tree topples over.  Conversely, if the tree is not staked, it can rip out when it's young.  It needs just enough support, that the roots are tested from time to time, and than the roots will grow deep.   Yes, its a parable, but I think it's  a great way to raise kids, expose them to conflicting views, but take the time to discuss it, and hear their voice.

So......take the time to watch an opposing view, your'e not going to get cooties.

RNprogressive says ...

Turn on FOX whatever for, overmade up ignorant caustic blond women or bloated middle aged men using loofahs in odd places. HHMMM  sounds like the south to me.

I think most people watch FOX so they do not get jaded, Non-BS spewed information...  Most people don't want to listen to how others FEEL or hear this is what's best for me, they want to be informed and tell the truth....

To make fun of the people for what they look like, it doesn't matter.  Its amazing how liberals have no real ideas and spew nonsense, one day you will WAKE UP also and say, "what happened to our country"  " I lost my freedoms"  That is the day that it will be way too late. 

Don't forget about your 912 projects this Saturday.  We need our voices heard for a change.

Geez, dude, go have a glass of wine.  Talk about sounding paranoid.....what a rant.

angienwgeorgia says ...

RNprogressive says ...

Angie,

Find me a link to that petition, I can't find it on "THe GOOGLE"  three milllion people at Ft Bragg signed a petition that the president did the right thing sitting and reading and not responding to  an attack on American soil?  No soldier would sign that petition, if they did not react immediately when their squad company, wasin danger they would be relieved of duty.  Sorry that's the way it is.

Do your own homework.......Us public school grads did their own own homework; plus we visited our kids as often as possible.    ..I was visiting my kid stationed there during all that crap and i signed as a visitor who also holds an Army ID card.  .  If you have a military ID you would be more than welcome probably.........unless anybody knew you. 

Don't believe you.  You made a claim.  RNprogressive took the time to try and find it and couldn't.  Back up your claim.  Otherwise, I don't believe a word of it.

I yhave to laugh at all the people who hate fox news, because it has a conservative bias.  Where do they get their news? Probably from CNN, CNBC, or the big three networks, all of whom have a liberal bias.

Nurse_John says ...

I yhave to laugh at all the people who hate fox news, because it has a conservative bias.  Where do they get their news? Probably from CNN, CNBC, or the big three networks, all of whom have a liberal bias.

They get the CRAP from those stations, have their links in for truly what is going on and try to deliver it, without being bias, as you well know.  It is amazing that people don't want to hear the truth???  Even if the truth is slanted somehow, I don't understand why people do not have open minds, but we are in a self-centered society.  What a shame.   Have a GREAT day John

Kittyrn says ...

And yet, you still have your facts wrong.  Obama never asked kids to "pledge alliegance to him."

Theala

While this is 'technically correct'.  I listed the videos that ARE being shown in some schools, and if you google, there have been some schools that have had the kids pledging Obama's picture, instead of the flag.   This presidential talk if prefaced with the video 'I pledge allegiance to Obama' (it's in there) and have the kids pledge allegiance to the flag, facing Obama's likeness.  The president than says his thing, and than the kids are instructed to 'write a paper' on how they can help Obama......Kinda smacks of socialism.  You may not like, but I can see how it would rile people up. 

BTW, they didn't show it at ANY of my kids schools here.  I would have been open to my high schoolers seeing it, and discussing it.  My kids watch Fox, and know the skinny.  They would have been the first one's with their hands raised in the debate afterward.

First of all, that video was made by Oprah, not Obama.

What schools?  I googled it, and found a few parent reports, nothing confirmed.  If done, it is the act of a handful of teachers acting on their own; inappropriate and if true the teacher should be disciplined.  But the Obama administration is not behind it.  You are stretching.

Fox News is not news.  It is a bunch of talking heads with no journalistic standards, a running op ed peice and nothing more.

Nurse_John says ...

Ok you liberals out there. Please tell me, when did it become a crime to work hard and make a lot of money and become a rich man  (or woman). I certainly am not rich, I didn't get into nursing to make a lot of money, but I do not have the hatred for rich people that the liberals have. The funny thing about it all, is that many of the famous liberals are rich themselves.  RNprogressive says that the "Rich white guys want to keep you in constant state of fear and anxiety to control you"  Does that mean the rich white guys like Ted Kennedy and John Kerry???  Yes, their liberal policies do keep me in a state of fear.

It is never a crime to work hard and make money.  Liberals don't hate rich people per se.  What they hate is how some rich people take advantage of government to enrich themselves.  For example, the "Enron loophole" that Ken Lay created just so he could take over electric utilities and make boatloads of money, while regular folks were getting their power shut off because not enough was being generated to meet the demand.

Oh yes there has never been another President who has been held up to children to pledge to assist him in his work for our country.  There has never been a small group of people who take things too far for a President.. Cut and paste to your browser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvIOPiKFrs

George Bush being worshiped by kids of all ages at Jesus Camp.  Seriously.

no one said that this "pep talk" crap hasn't happend before or that george bush was a really great guy but what is happening now in our country is a  whole new era of bs. we are being sold a bill of crap with that hr3200 and to dress it up like its social justice or spreading the wealth is a lie.  its a lie cause it doesn't address the real problems with healthcare... tort reform and ins fraud! i'm all for keeping kids in school and i'm sure Pres Obama meant well by giving the pep talk but i wish he would focus on all the bs that his congress is doing instead! there are better ways to push your agenda. and i am certainly looking forward to hearing that tonite!

LOL;  It still wasn't a public school.  Last time I checked a church could so choose to worship Bush or whoever.  So your argument failed.

Kittyrn says ...

First of all, that video was made by Oprah, not Obama.

I didn't say Obama made the video.  I said some schools were showing it, and others were planning on showing it prior to his educational talk. 

And yes, the school where the teacher had the students doing the pledge of allegiance to Obama, are isolated and the teacher was disciplined.  But you need to ask yourself, where else EVER in history, have students, even 'isolated' been encouraged to pledge allegiance to a  president or a leader.   Smacks of nazi socialism, the the pledge to der fuhrer.

Only if the government is organizing it.

And it would not be the first time this has happened in this country.  Similar things were done during the Civil War by overzealous Union officers (I did my Master's thesis in history on this subject).

Certainly this kind of thing is unseemly, especially in this country.  But too many people are putting ownership of the extreme behavior of a few on President Obama's shoulders, and that's not right.

I'm still not getting your point.  It's OK to worship Satan, or Obama or GW for that matter, as long as it is NOT in a public school on my Tax dollar. 

I've heard the same arguments against catholics that saints are graven images, but that's a whole different topic (and frankly I don't care who you or anyone  worship on your own time).  Once again, to do that stuff in a public school, on a 'grass roots level' is wrong.  If the prez wants to address the kids, thats fine, I'm all for it, BUT I can certainly understand why people are upset, because zealots have taken it too far, with the video, and the pledge to Obama by influencial celebrities.  The funny thing is, I don't know who half of this people are.  But, I'll bet if I polled some teenageers they could name them all. 

If your interested in history, than your interest should peak with the following

“I swear before God this holy oath, that I shall give absolute confidence to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people.” – Heinrich Himmler

“Has there ever been a mortal as beloved as you, my Fuhrer? Was there ever belief as strong as the belief in your mission. You were sent us by God for Germany!” – Hermann Göring

“Fuhrer, my Fuhrer, bequeathed to me by the Lord.” -----Prelunch invocation of the German School Children.

So, in closing, as I said before this smacks of Nazi Socialism.  We have Czars being put in charge of various areas of Government.  One of the Czars is someone by the name of Holdren..... 

Holdren and Paul Ehrlich put their anti-growth philosophy into a mathematical equation, I=PAT, where a negative environmental impact was linked to any combination of population growth, increasing affluence, and improving technology. This “gloomy prognosis” required, according to the three:

“organized evasive action: population control, limitation of material consumption, redistribution of wealth, transitions to technologies that are environmentally and socially less disruptive than today’s, and movement toward some kind of world government” (1977: p. 5).