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Why does nursing have such a high turn-over?
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Posted over 3 years ago The July/August issue of Nursing Outlook recently published a study that said more than one-quarter of new nurse graduates leave their first job within two years. Why is there such a high turn-over? Do new nurses have disillusions about the job? Too much stuff? Not enough support? What do you think? |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Working conditions definately have the most to do with it from what I've read, experienced, and what I've been told by nurses who leave. Too many patients, especially really sick patients who need a lot of care, combined with not enough resources or back up from administration. While every nurse I know would like to make more money, few of the nurses I've talked to have left because they didn't think they were getting paid enough. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I am coming up on my two yr mark at my 1st nursing job. And ready to find a new one. I am planning on leaving is for two reasons. 1) NO BENEFITS! 2) Some of the people I work with/for are some of the most jaded, overly seasoned nurses ever who dont have a heart for it anyomore, and I cant stand to be poisoned by their attitudes any longer. In the two years I have worked there I have noticed some things change about me that I do not wish to continue on that path. Make sense? But I am still going to be a nurse, just somewhere else, if I can find a place. Short supply right now. "Softly. deftly, music shall caress you. Feel it, hear it, secretly possess you...." |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Does the article say they leave their first job or they leave the field of nursing? Changing jobs doesn't alarm me since many of the "desired" positions require experience. I can certainly see getting experience at the first place that takes new grads just because you're desperate for a job. Then, when you have experience under your belt, applying to the more "desireable" places to work. But if the article says nurses are leaving the field altogether, then I would have many more questions (I am currenlty a Business Analyst so I ask a lot of questions before eating the crap someone is trying to feed me 1) How old are the nurses who leave? Age/maturity plays a big role in career decisions. 2) What facilities are they working in? I'm guessing the more overcrowded hospitals, in poorer neighborhoods would have less desireable working conditions (on many levels) 3) What reasons do nurses give for leaving? Compensation? Stress? Schedule conflicts? Non-work related issues? And this is just the tip of the iceburg. I would love to read the article and see if there's any meat behind the study. Often times, authors will cite studies to support what they're trying to sell - whether it be an opinion or a product - but when you dissect the "study" results you find that it's very jaded and really nothing more than a sales pitch. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Everyone has their own reason for dropping out or changing jobs. In my case, it was disillusionment. Nursing school painted such a pretty picture of what it would be like to be an RN. It would be hard work, yes, but it would be a very rewarding career. Baloney! They were right about the hard work, but where were the rewards? "Oh, you're getting so efficient, I think we'll give you the next 2 admits tonight." I'd do it because it was my job, and I enjoyed the admission process...getting to know a patient & family, learning their history, teaching them about what was going to be done and why. But what about my other 7 patients? Would someone else check on them for me? Fat chance! Unless I specifically said "Mr. Jones in 422 is on the bedpan right now. Would you please take him off when he's done?" When I got back to Mr. Jones, the other nurses were sitting, chatting at the desk, noone had checked Mr. Jones, and his red bottom was practically glued to the pan, in which there was a drying gift. If I found myself with 10 free minutes, I'd usually ask if anybody needed help. I was there to work...and help patients and staff alike. I sometimes had trouble getting out on time because I'd find myself actually talking to my patients! Having conversations. Allaying fears. Explaining why the day nurse was so mean and never came in to see the patient. (That was how she perceived it anyway). Decent pay, but long hours, heavy patient loads, having to do other departments' work (maybe no phlebotomist or pharmacist at night), no time for teaching (which might prevent another hospitalization), having to scrounge around for equipment...There was no time to enjoy my job. Maybe another hospital would be better. Yeah, right. I haven't worked for 5 years, but I'm going to take a refresher and try it again. Maybe things have changed? From what I hear, they have...but not for the better. Am I nuts? |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I haven't read the article yet, but I did check out the periodical and read the excerpt - I'm just not ready to subscribe for $80 a year - when I'm not immersed in it yet. BUT - looking at the authors and reading the excerpt, it looks like they at least tried to do a "true" study and not the jaded sales pitch that I originally cautioned against. vmaday - I'm sorry to read it just wasn't what you had signed up for but I'm curious...was it a magnet hospital? How long were you there before getting burnt out? Did you try another hospital or maybe a Drs office? A different dept maybe? I haven't even entered nursing school yet so maybe I'm still overly optimistic. ;) |
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| Posted over 3 years ago OK, feistymama...stay optimistic. A good attitude will get you farther, more easily than just thinking "I can't do anything about it, so why try?" Even if all around you are in bitchy tizzies, remember why you're there. Learn early to be organized. That's what took me so long to find out...because things were different at each hospital and each department in the same hospital. Have a generic SOP that will work anywhere now. To answer your questions: Because of changing specialties and then being a travel RN, I worked at 6 different hospitals in 12 years. 4 were major hospitals in their area. The other 2 were just smaller hospitals. The problems were the same everywhere, just more pronounced at some. If you reread my post, you'll find I have tried different hospitals in different parts of the country, and in different departments at the same hospital. My sister was a MA and worked in Dr's offices. She described her duties to me...not what I signed up for...and spent 3 years in college for. I did not get burnt out, I was in a car accident and not able to work for some time. When I was physically ready, I realized I had been living just fine without the stress and frustration, so I remained at home. I'm finally getting my desire to work back and hope I can find a job. Maybe I'll go back to school first (I'll need a refresher at least)...maybe I'll try another department or venue...maybe I'll wake up one morning and decide to flip hamburgers at McD's...who knows. I never even thought about being a nurse til I had been a Respiratory Therapist for 20+ years, and by then you'd think I should have known what was in store for me. But I was ready for a change, and nursing sounded like a ticket to new adventure. It was! |
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| Posted over 3 years ago My first nursing job was a nightmare. We were poorly staffed and overworked, and not well treated. I was too young and inexperienced to know the way I was being treated was not acceptable. At the time I was in a BSN program, transitioning from LPN. I grew so disallusioned though, that I dropped out of the program (even though I was doing well) and quit my nursing job to take a job delivering pizza. I stayed in school, but changed my major to history. I enjoyed the delivery job. Ran around town all day with the radio on, tips were good, I was making as good money as when I worked as an LPN. But then my car broke down and all my savings went to fix it. I had to quit the delivery job because I knew I couldn't afford another major car repair. I couldn't find another job that paid that well, so I took a part time job at a local nursing home. There, I rediscovered my love of nursing. I finished my history degree, but stayed in nursing and have never regretted it. Burnout is like that. Sometimes a break and a change of pace is all you need to restart your engine. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Its a great issue, its really a high turn over for dropping out or changing jobs. Lots of nurses are passing out through Nursing School every year and what I think, this is all because of working conditions. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Theala - you teach now, don't you? Posts like this one are exactly why I'm on here......I am trying to learn as much about the daily stresses/joys of the job as possible before taking the leap. I have been a patient a few times and several family members have been as well. So I have seen snippets of nursing duties but certainly not enough to make me think for a minute that I know their job! Theala and vmaday - your candor is greatly appreciated. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago It's great to be appreciated, feistymama! Congratulations to you for being smart enough to look before you leap into nursing. Being a patient and observing a family member or friend as a patient doesn't nearly prepare you for floor nursing; HOWEVER, you know what patients want, how they feel, what they need. You've been on the other side of the bed. It gives you what I think is a great jumping off point in the personal side of nursing (as opposed to the medical, technical and secretarial sides) I'm getting my toes wet now, giving flu shots. I have very few hours to work, but it will be nice to be seen as a nurse again. I check the company's website every day for open shifts, and I've even had a call to fill in for someone. I didn't get the message in time, and since it was my birthday, I probably wouldn't have accepted, but I'm glad they know my phone number! As I went through my (online) training for the job, I was reminded how much paperwork there is to do. This may be because this is not a 24/7 operation, and everyone is a one-shot (so to speak) patient. I'm hoping and assuming that in the time I've been away from hospitals, paperwork has been rethought or computerized. We'll see. I'll be out of town for 10 days the end of October, so I won't actively job-hunt til mid-month. I don't want to have to say, "I'd love to accept your offer, but you'll need to give me 2 weeks off right after I start." I'm going to look into other than hospitals first...nursing homes and Hospice (both something new to me). If nothing works out, I'll do the refresher (I've found one close to home), then try hospitals again, too. The refresher includes 96 hours of clinical, so I'm hoping I'll have a foot in the door wherever I do that. Right now, I'm getting daily updates from Monster about jobs; but, besides the nursing jobs, they also send listings of everything from dishwasher to head accountant. I have a couple of other places I check, too...just to see what's out there. Yep, I may be in Looney Land, but I'm enjoying the house hunting! |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I have had a lot of other jobs and I really like nursing. Every job that I've had has things I like and dont like.The same w/ nursing there are many aspects that I dont like and will probly never change, but the benefits are great. Where else do you get to work 3 days and be off for 4. I work weekends and am home with my kid all week long. I can be a parent and all that that entails plus be a working woman. Plus I dont have to sit all day. I can move around and everyday is different. I agree its not for everybody and if you got into it for the money you wont last, because somedays it isnt worth it. Some work environments can be less than healthy/positive but the great thing is that there are so many different aspects of nursing. If its just not for you dont force it, but dont give up either. |

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