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Posted over 3 years ago You ever think that nurses could benefit from counseling? We go through alot to say the least!!! Ever have those days when in one room your prepping a body for the funeral home, the other room a patient is throwing themselves out of the bed, another patient...the infamous "pill seeker" is screaming that its overdue for their breakthrough pain med, (and this is the patient on oxy 80mg for a broken toemail)...and your CNA's are fighting in the hall, the DON is asking about a care plan...and a family member is raising hell about the unsweetened tea on their loved ones tray.....aaaaargh!!!! and we smile!!! Do you ever leave work wanting to do a drive by, slap the cashier at the local wal-mart,, or get on a roof top with an ak47? I think facilities and hospitals should pay for stress relief counseling or aromathreapy, or bring in a yoga instructor at lunch. Do ya'll agree? I know the yoga thing is a bit much...but who is looking out for us? God forbid we have a mini breakdown at work...then we are fired or drug tested!! |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Holly,
This is an excellent idea. While obtaining my BSN, I was enrolled in a class pertaining to Holistic medicine. While in this class, I was impressed by many ideas that were explored. One was the thought of having a quiet room on the unit for individuals to regress to for a mere few min of self relaxation. This room is dimly lit and has a massage chair. There is also a receiver that plays tranquil sounds such as waterfalls, rain, birds, etc. I designed this room for the comfort of the staff and to assist them in their day to day job. This retreat is not much, but it is used be everyone. Of course I was laughed at in the beginning, but now it is the talk of the hospital.
Another avenue that we currently have is a number that we can call that will assist all of the employees in the event of a stressful event, family member dying, marital problems, work problems, etc. This avenue has work for us for many years.
Maybe you can discuss with your leaders and try to obtain an avenue to vent that will be constructive to all of your staff.
James |
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| Posted over 3 years ago That is an excellent idea. Now, how do we convince the higher ups that this may benefit them? Actually, maybe you could segway that into a consulting business. I'm not joking. Can you tell I'm looking for a way to get off the floor? LOL!! Hey, if you need a partner, consider moi. We can call it, Nurturing for nurses. I always say when I get totally burnt out in nursing, I want to open up an esthetics/relaxation spa. Gear it to the nursing profession, that would be even better. Again, great idea.
Claire Kruszka |
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| Posted over 3 years ago While I know I could DEFINATELY benefit from professional help :-) one thing I always think is a group venting session. Yeah we all think we don't want to see work people any more...but the rare occasion we all meet for happy hour turns into hours of free therapy. Who better to discuss your woes with than the people who know the story??
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| Posted over 3 years ago Oh for pete's sake. If being a nurse is stressful enough to require counselling... Might I suggest a career as a Walmart greeter? Man will not be free until the last lawyer is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. With apologies to Voltaire |
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| Posted over 3 years ago alphamale, how long have you been a nurse or in healthcare? I've been a nurse for a very long time, seen things, experienced things where I certainly could have used counseling, but none was immediately available. This topic is about keeping yourself well, doesn't need snide, rude comments from another health care worker |
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| Posted over 3 years ago sanssugar says ...
Hmm.. let's see.. i have been one form of a nurse or another for about...30 years.... and I am actually in.. what is probably the most stressful subspeciality in nursing... As for a snide remark? You may take it however you wish. Nursing as a whole has to lose the culture of victimhood. If the job is too stressful the most effective way to deal with it is to change careers. Man will not be free until the last lawyer is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. With apologies to Voltaire |
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| Posted over 3 years ago EMS departments in some area's recognize that caring for injured people is stressful. They have debreifings, with grief counselors in some places. I do think, that the older you get, and the longer you have been a nurse the easier it is to cope with things. I think nursing would retain more young nurses if there was some sort of stress debriefing. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Sure, stress debriefings are now avalable for all EMS in our area - but years ago our "stress debriefing" consisted of sitting together at the first aid building and "talking it out." Laughing, crying - just like the military - things were very informal years ago. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago CaptainEricRN says ...
It is a very different military these days. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Haha! Yes indeed! I'm still in, but a JAG officer... we call ourselves "Chairborne Rangers." For one thing I'm amazed at guys saying "I started boot camp, but didn't like it so I quit!" Ha! In my day they would have just set you back a few companies - after a good butt kicking! Like you say... "A very different military!" |
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| Posted over 3 years ago alphamale aren't your pt's sedated ????if so i say shut your yapper about the rest of us and our stress!!!! |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I personally would think that pediatric oncology is one of the most 'stressful' subspecialities in nursing. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago kellyj says ...
WOW .. that shows an ignorance of my job that is mind boggling..I take these people to the edge of death and bring them back.. sometimes i even induce brain death... please feel free to google " Neuorsurgical proceedures and EEG burst supression". I have to bond with these patients in about 20 minutes i have pre-op.. convince them i am trustworthy enough to hold their lives in my hands, and then do my job safely and professionally. I have to keep a trauma patient alive who can lose more than his or her entire circulating volume during the surgery. I have to do all this ON MY OWN.. no doctor's orders... no standing orders... nothing but what I have learned in school and over the years I have been doing this. Now... I am sorry.. what is it you do for a living? Man will not be free until the last lawyer is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. With apologies to Voltaire |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Nursing is stressful no matter where you work. I've been a nurse 26 years. I've worked. Doctors offices, ER's, Open heart/transplant, ICU, Occ health. Looking back, I can cite stressful situations in every one of those areas. Guess what? I'm a floater who works Observation, and I still have dyas where I want to pull my hair out. Last friday I came inches away from kicking an MD in the Balls. He had the nereve to suggest I "sat" on a pt 7 hrs that he cleared for D/C. guess where he wrote the "order"? His progress notes. Oh, I was pissed. That was the same day I had a cirrhosis/Hep C pos pt barf about 800cc's of blood from esophageal varicies...Real sitting.Oh, and the techs abusive boyfriend decided to use her as a punching bag prior to work, but she half ass worked for 4 hrs. Then she went home. So, while I wasn't sliding in blood barf coding my pt, I was being a tech and taking Glucoses and VS. Nursing is stressful. Especially if you care. I can't help but care, I'm just wired that way. I took great offense when the Cardiologist made that remark. I gave him dagger eyes, and if the charge nurse and my manager weren't standing next to me, my little size six foot was ready to kick his nuts.
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| Posted over 3 years ago LOL Clair 15 years ago, I actually threw a clipboard at and hit an MD that screamed at me that I left his pt in pain,while I was 'off the floor'. I was 'off the floor' down to pharmacy getting narcotics for the very same pt, because we were out of her drugs. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago wow shows your ignorance re my job.....i follow orders from md's ...if i don't like the orders or the pt looks crappier than the doc thinks they look i call him and NO I don't do things on my own without orders......i am a nurse and may i ask what are you alphamale????? |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I feel like my area can be pretty stressful. That's kinda the nature of it. Never felt like I needed counselling. We usually talk it out amongst ourselves. You have to get over things pretty quickly. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Ok, I aint gonna lie. I just threw my nametag so hard across the room one day, my clip for it broke exposing the inner springs. This was about a month ago. My husband was giving me some kinda unecessary grief after a tough shift and I lost it. My limit had been reached. What was funny , a co-worker had called me expressing her concern over my hediuos day, and my husband(who is clueless) threw a fit that I was talking and the phone and not placating him. Needless to say, my poor nametag clip payed the price. I would say counseling wouldn't be a bad idea. Claire Kruszka |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Counseling can vary in quality - much counseling turns out to be just "someone to talk to" and vent your feelings. That's a very positive thing, but in ye olden days we used to do that among ourselves, colleagues. These days, like everything else, it has been formalized. Organizations often pay for counseling for employees, passing the cost along to - whoever.... stockholders, customers, taxpayers. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago If we have a hard shift at work, we go out. We have a pizza place, and an applebee's near the hospital. Sometimes we just shoot in for an appetizer and a drink. It feels good to de-stress together. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago While I do not agree with alphamale very often, I do agree on this. Nursing is stressful but not enough to need counseling. Find a way to de-stress. It isn't hard to do. I get rid of my stress by watching football or hockey. My wife has been an ICU nurse for 42 years and she gets rid of her stress by yelling at me for watching football and hockey. John L. Racher RN, BSN, MSRN-BC
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| Posted over 3 years ago I think that eventually all nurses have to have some sort of counseling in order to stay on top of their game and remain a kind/caring attentive nurse. I don't mean that they all have to go to a "shrink" or something like that, but they will talk and release stress with other nurses, MDs, family, cleargy or even using an ave. such as this. I believe there is nothing wrong with it, as long as we don't tell "names and tales" and it is actually healthy. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Thank goodness, nurses do seek counseling because that is what I do. I give nurses great discounts, but I also see social workers, teachers, doctors. Of course, counseling does not mean you are crazy. Crazy people do not go to counseling willingly. Sometimes, it is not what you see, or the patients, but it can be from unreasonable rules, regulations , controlling coworkers, lack of sleep, lack of good diet, problems going on at home, mistakes nurses feel guilty about and on and on and on. I had been an emergency room nurse and I could handle the things I saw by talking to other nurses, but nurses do not feel free aboutcomplaining about administration, co-workers, family problems ,and their family of origin problems like they can about the people they care for. I would have liked to have had someone to talk to at times when I had doctors that were inappropriate, or when I made a mistake or wondered if I did, when I had to give a foster child back to an abusive home. Nurses need to validate their feelings with an objective person that is not going to judge them. My favorite hour is spent with a nurse. I can empathize with the pressure one is under. The hospital and many businesses in my area offer at least 5 free sessions a year. That is great. Stress reduction can improve effectiveness at the work place. Incidentally, when a nurse calls, I get them in very quickly, because I value their time.
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| Posted over 3 years ago Good post and relevant, Margaretellen. I have never been offered such counseling and in 17 years in ER never really felt a permanent need for it personally. Voiced it with my cohorts as you stated. But I have seen others who were so affected by stuff we saw that I am sure they had lasting and negative effects from it. Nothing about seeking counseling or comfort when needed signifies weakness and, in my opinion, shows quite the opposite. |


