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Posted over 3 years ago I had clinicals at a nursing home for the MR/DD kids. Here's a patient with urinary retention, among other things. They straight cath her six times a day, q day. I questioned my instructor, whether it would be better to just insert a Foley, which in my opinion would be less risky in terms of an infection. Her response was that actually straight cathing her six times a day is safer, as this is a sterile procedure, whereas care for Foley (already inserted) is not sterile. Hmm... And then this patient develops UTI (of course). Which pretty much answers my question, but still, there was nothing I could do. I think this facility does not use Foleys, period, for any of their patients. Heck, if this was my kid who suffers UTI after having six straight caths a day, I would sure open my mouth. But general public does not know this. The kid's mother knows that her daughter is sick, and that's it. I know this is not my fault, but somehow I felt responsible. More so that I did one of the straight caths myself. Oh well. What do you think? I am a proud mother of two beautiful daughters, Amy Ann and Susan Lynn. I have worked as a nursing assistant for the last fifteen years; am currently a nursing student (LPN) and will graduate in Spring 2010. Wish me luck on NCLEX. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago MrBrown says ...
Thanks for the reply. My question though was, which one creates more possibility for the infection. As far as inability of the pt to perform personal hygiene, well, someone else will do it for her, either nurses or aides. You know how that goes. Are you saying that the rate of infection occurring is about the same? The way I see it, whether long term or short term, bacteria should get into the bladder; it doesn't take long. So... why Foleys are even in use? They are pretty common in the hospitals. I have worked in a hospital for almost ten years, haven't seen a pt w/Foley develop UTI. In some nursing homes, if a pt has, say, MRSA in urine, he/she'll get a Foley, and that way, he/she's contained, and can move around instead of staying in his/her room only for the contact isolation. I've seen it, and it apparently worked, in terms that MRSA was gone, as well as the Foley. Oh, I guess, it depends on the facility. I am a proud mother of two beautiful daughters, Amy Ann and Susan Lynn. I have worked as a nursing assistant for the last fifteen years; am currently a nursing student (LPN) and will graduate in Spring 2010. Wish me luck on NCLEX. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I agree with MrBrown. Alot of the hospitals are trying to get foley catheters out of pt's as soon as they can to avoid infection. Of course, this is related to the hospital not wanting to incure the costs to treat the infection, lol. And doing straight caths, in my opinion, there would be less risk for infections..... |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Everybody tends to forget that this is an invasive procedure, and doing it so many times a day q day just adds to it. If this was done to you, considering that you can voice your feeling of discomfort, that would be a different story. But this patient is nonverbal; her legs are contracted, and no doubt hurt when you have to hold them apart so that the cath can be inserted, leave alone the discomfort of inserting it every so often. Level of comfort/discomfort should be considered, too. For example, when I had my C-section 20-some years ago, I had wound infection afterwards. The dressing had to be changed three times a day, every day. So, every time a tape over the wound has to be removed, and a new tape goes on over a new dressing. You would say that there is nothing wrong with this procedure (not sure if it was sterile, but let's assume it was). Yet I let them know in no uncertain terms that it was uncomfortable, at which point montgomery straps were applied, which was much more comfortable. Again, neither method would increase the possibility of a new infection, but the difference is in the patient's level of comfort. I am a proud mother of two beautiful daughters, Amy Ann and Susan Lynn. I have worked as a nursing assistant for the last fifteen years; am currently a nursing student (LPN) and will graduate in Spring 2010. Wish me luck on NCLEX. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago it seems like you are uneasy about doing a straight cath on this pt or feel responsible for possible infection. straight cath or foley this pt may possibly get a UTI, her bladder needs to be emptied otherwise you have a bigger problem..nerve damage to bladder. UTI can be treated w/ antibiotics. this is the same way its looked at in hospitals..deal w/ the bigger problem of nerve damage to bladder then throw antibiotics at the pt if infection developes. my hospital wants foleys out post op day 1 for elective surgery..but again you have to look at the whole picture. there are cercumstances that can develope when that foley is staying put. to make youself feel better practice sterile technique when inserting and make sure peri care is done often for pt w/ foleys. |

