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I agree...


Of course it's a good thing that liberal governors have never pardoned anyone or commuted sentences.

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HAAAA HAAA now that was funny!! come here and live in the land with jerrybrown and boxer and feinstein oh don't forget maxine waaaaaters and oh the ratman ...he's my favorite!

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OHHH i think the Bush adminstartion letting Osama get away is a LOT worse.


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With apologies to Voltaire

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yeah and the catholics letting an ex Hitler youth become the Pope is a LOT worse.... ohhh but doesn't God forgive everybody?????hmmmmm maybe and maybe not.  whose going to come back and tell us????i vote for sevo

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What is it about Christianity that confuses the Republican evangelical Politician so much???


Huckabee wants to commute sentences because if the rapist killer robber says he is saved through Jesus then everything will be alright.. Except 9 % of those who sentence he reduced and freed went back to crime and some of them killed and raped again, like just a day ago. Why couldn't he give these people their max sentence and no parole?


A man with an extensive criminal past -- whose 95-year prison sentence was commuted in Arkansas nearly a decade ago by then-Gov. Mike Huckabee-- was being sought Sunday as a "person of interest" in a deadly ambush on four police officers who were gunned down inside a coffee shop.


According to ABC News, Huckabee granted pardons and commutations to approximately 12 convicted murderers.

A study by the Arkansas Leader showed that between 1996 and 2004, Huckabee helped to free more Arkansas prisoners than were freed from all of Arkansas' six neighboring states--combined.


In 2004, The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette concluded that "9 percent of the prisoners who benefited from Huckabee's clemencies ended up in prison again."


 



Whereas, GWBush executed 155 people as Govenor more than any other  ever.  He even refused to stay the execution of a mentally handicapped man who barely could understand the crime he committed.  He mocked some of those he had killed and doesn't see that being a born again Christian himself he should not kill rather have compassion for the wicked. 


Old Testament or New Testament which is it boys who is right ?  Old Jewish law of God or the good News of Jesus.  I only bring Christianity up because they continually tell us that is what is wrong with this country is we have to get back to our religious foundations etc.  Blah Blah blah the founding fathers many of them were Diests and Freemasons so they had a whole nother way of thinking about God.  I want these Evangelical types toned down in our government , in our military and in our lives. 


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Yeah put a fork in him, he is done!


 


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mr brown i think you won't have to worry about that.....i think the repubs have absolutely nobody to frontline yet and from the looks of it probably never will...too bad ...i liked being a republican mostly cuz it really pissed off my family HA! there were other reasons but that one was def my favorite !!!!!

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You know when it has been well documented that black people had longer sentences than white people, I looked up Clemmens first charges.  He was given more than people that had murdered and he was a teenager. It is not that he had raped and murdered at that time.


His sentence was reduced to 47 years by Huckabee and that is still excessive for some of the crimes he committed.  I think that had he had more problems in prison  and he should not have been put out on bale. That was done in Washington.I would guess had the old 20/20 show did his story as a teenager, most citizens would have agreed that life time was not appropriate for theft, and carrying a gun.


I had a patient that murdered her parents, She was 16 and she was released at age 21. that was in Missouri.


"In 1990, Clemmons, then 18, was sentenced in Arkansas to 60 years in prison for burglary and theft. During the sentencing, a circuit judge told Clemmons that he had broken his mother's heart, to which Clemmons responded, "I have broken my own heart." When he received the 60-year sentence, he was already serving 48 years on five felony convictions, and facing up to 95 more years on charges of theft, and possessing a handgun on school property. He was 17 when he committed the crimes.[3] (The thefts involved robbery of cell phone and house appliances from an unoccupied house, posession of a firearm and stealing women's purses.)"


But it sure makes a better story to blame Huckabee.

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Yes check it out, Huckabee only reduced it to 47 years. It is not his fault if the rest of the system let him out.

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This topic is dead, literally....Clemmons was shot and killed in Seattle on December 1, 2009.


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Are you seriously a grown man?  You use the word duh more than my 9 year old.  I find your tone to be incredibly condescending and disrespectful, not just to me but to just about every single person you post a response to.  I do not recall ever having done anything to you personally that would cause you to act in such a manner towards me.  I would appreciate more respect, as would others I'm sure.  In my case, if you can't give it then refrain from replying to any of my posts.  Every reply does not have to be a sarcastic slap in the face for the love of God.  I'm sure you expect others to treat you in a respectful manner....you should do the same for them.


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A man with an extensive criminal past -- whose 95-year prison sentence was commuted in Arkansas nearly a decade ago by then-Gov. Mike Huckabee-- was being sought Sunday as a "person of interest" in a deadly ambush on four police officers who were gunned down inside a coffee shop.




He was 17 years old, so if he had an 'extensive criminal past' it was as teenager.  This is insane, because people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. 


 

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First of all, "we" didn't hear anything on the news.  YOU may have heard it, but "we" did not.  I had never even heard of this individual until I read the story you posted, which incidentally is not about Clemmons death, but rather about  the killing of 4 police officers in a coffee shop.  Your highness, you must excuse those of us who are somehow less fortunate than you and don't seem to think we know everything about everything! Now, I'm sure you'll have something smart ass to say in response to that as well, and I'm also sure that your sarcastic, holier than thou attitude is a feeble attempt at covering up some other personal inadequacy....and I have my suspicions.  Such a shame.


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first let me say that children are children until the age of 18 crime or no crime but as the american legal system has been ruined by egotists and crazies we now have this phenom occurring where you can charge them as adults which i believe is wrong but anyways....poor poor mr clemmons prob ruined by childhood was then sent to live in prison with others who have had crappy childhoods and so years later when he was released whala he's a cop killin machine!! big surprise . i don't think huckelberry has either bad or good press related to this that matters except that our legal system sucks alot and politicians should not get to pardon commute or otherwise free criminals regardless!!!! that what i learned by this whole idiotic event !

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A May 1989 incident in which Clemmons, then 17, was caught with a gun at a Little Rock school appears to have been his first run in with the police. The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette quoted him telling police that he had the gun because he had "been chased and beaten by dopers, and if they got after him again he had something for them" (via Nexis).


Starting almost immediately after his expulsion from school for the gun incident, Clemmons took part in a series of burglaries that landed him in prison. In one late-night incident, a middle-aged woman was hit in the face and Clemmons and another teen snatched her purse. He made the news again when he hid a 10-inch metal bar in his sock before a pretrial hearing, and once again when a padlock he threw at a bailiff hit Clemmons' own mother.


For these and other crimes, the young Clemmons received in 1989-90 remarkably harsh -- arguably excessive -- sentences adding up to 108 years, by the Arkansas Times' count.


Those are the facts.  His first arrest was at age 17.  Listen folks, hindsight is 20/20.  He was given 108 years in prison (probably because he was black), and Huckabee commuted it to 47 years.  Additonally, he got the 108 years for robbery, not murder.  He was in Prison again 8 years later, shortly before he killed the cops, but made bail, because the bail was 'rediculously low'. 


If Huckabee had allowed a 108 year conviction to stand on a young black man, WITHOUT, a lengthy criminal history (at that time), he would have been deemed a racist.   Quit drinking the kool aid.


 

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Mr Brown, you need to seek professional assistance for your problem.  I will admit that I do not sit in front of my tv or my computer 24/7.  Somehow this tid bit escaped me.  I don't recall there being any type of repercussions for having missed what you deem to be a noteworthy news story.  You make a lot of assumptions and since you know everything else, Im sure you also know the saying that goes along with assuming.


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Trust me, I'm not anywhere NEAR riled up.  In my opinion, the topic was dead, and as far as I'm aware, I am still entitled to have my own opinion.  If you didn't agree, so be it, but you don't need to be an ass about it.  Never claimed to be Mary Poppins, but I also do not post with such obvious sarcasm and intolerance to others, which is what you clearly need assistnace with.  I don't have to be an expert on anything to pick up on that.  You argue, and fuss and fight with EVERYONE who does not agree with your views or opinions.  You reply with hateful, sarcastic tones and as I said previously it is highly disrespectful.  If it's such old news, why start the forum to begin with?  And the use of the word "duh"....well I guess I shouldn't expect much more from you. 


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There's absolutely no hope for you.  Pathetic.


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Umm is there hope for me?


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It was posted 6 days ago! Do you bother to read details? No wonder somebody gets sarcastic. Not everyone deserves to be treated with kid gloves, despite what you think. I really don't care what you expect, respect or like.



I have never seen <saw in type> a man <I use that term loosely> who tends to thrive on being someone who thinks he knows everything. I've found that alot of guys like this check out the specials on Viagra or Cialis.    Your still arguing with yourself, debating with yourself, watching to make sure you post on every other post.   Dude..............people do NOT respect you, they DONT admire you.   I picture you holding your gut <or something else> to draw attention to yourself.  I know you have no respect for me, Aisha, and other women who is  conservative............and  I just wondered do you look like the monkey face?  Dunno, but when you put a face on a name................you got a picture on your computer that looks like Clyde from the Clint Eastwood movies?   I know you probably take pride in that you have run off other members by bullying them and making them feel bad.  Well Im not going anywhere..............Im NOT Lisa, and frankly, if you are employed as a nurse, how in the world do you manage to show up and clock in on time?   I somehow question your status as an employed nurse.   Maybe you have a job in medical administration..............could be since you might be ready for retirement <agewise>  and maybe you've been here since Jimmy Carter was President  

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Huckabee did not free a cop killer. He freed an aggravated robber.   He did not become a cop killer until after being freed. Accuracy in headlines should be as important as in reporting.


MrBrown, I agree with you on most things, but your comment to Angie about throwing her weight around on here like she does at work was a little uncalled for. You also seem to throw your weight around a lot on here.  Or it could be that you are both just defending your own points of view.


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OHHH i think the Bush adminstartion letting Osama get away is a LOT worse.



Dude, I could be wrong....................but wasnt it Bill Clinton who did that?   Like I said, possibly wrong...................but I sort of doubt it.  

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Anjie ( since you misspell is I feel I can take liberties with your name),


From late Nov. early Dec of this year a Senate investigation has come up with the following conclusion concerning Tora Bora in afghanistan where Bush and his army had Bin Laden in their sights in 2001-2002.


The main reason policy toward Afghanistan is so vexing, in my view, is that we basically failed in our main mission back in 2001 and 2002. Demands were made on the Taliban to hand over key al-Qaeda leaders, the Taliban refused, we went to war, and even though we succeeded in marginalizing the Taliban we didn’t succeed in achieving for ourselves what we’d been demanding the Taliban do. Having failed at that mission, we then shifted gears into a hazily defined effort to remake Afghanistan.



A new Senate report, thankfully, finally focuses attention on how we failed and why:



“The decision not to deploy American forces to go after Bin Laden or block his escape was made by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his top commander, General Tommy Franks,” the report says.



“On or around December 16, two days after writing his will, Bin Laden and an entourage of bodyguards walked unmolested out of Tora Bora and disappeared into Pakistan’s unregulated tribal area. Most analysts say he is still there today.”



Rumsfeld’s argument at the time, the report says, was that deploying too many American troops could jeopardize the mission by creating an anti-US backlash among the local populace.



The report dismisses arguments at the time from Franks, Vice President Dick Cheney and others defending the decision and arguing that the intelligence was inconclusive about Bin Laden’s location.



“The review of existing literature, unclassified government records and interviews with central participants underlying this report removes any lingering doubts and makes it clear that Osama bin Laden was within our grasp at Tora Bora.”


Another reminder of the horrible legacy of the George W. Bush administration

By the way calling a gentleman of color a monkey face and some of the other racially charged names and references you've made to Mr Brown could cause you to lose your job in many corporations and hospital groups around the country-- I would suggest you review your company policies on discrimination and the the penalties for such behavior.  I'd hate for you to be out of work and unable to afford those new shoes you were wanting.  Gosh I thought all the Hillbillies went barefoot in the South.  OOps I better do my sensitivity training too.







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What did I miss? Racially charged names & references??? Are they in another discussion or did I just miss them here? I see a lot of name calling & nastiness, but nothing racial - and.... if a guy wants to have fun by using a monkey face for an avatar, is it racially charged to say "monkey face?" Well, okay, a "Chimp face."


And what's wrong with being of retirement age? Don't you plan to get there some day?


More to the point, why can't everyone just DISCUSS THE TOPIC RATIONALLY??? Oh, I know, i'm expecting too much again....

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It's astounding the individuals who reiterate conversations that they were never even privy to. The details are spouted off as if you were there.  OH, wait, maybe you also know George W. and Bill Clinton personally and you were invited to sit in on all of the whitehouse jargon that took place during the presidential transition, but not likely.  Something tells me you aren't nearly as eminent as YOU think you are.


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You're quite amusing, MrBrown, quite amusing indeed.


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so...... the treasury sec is usually quite a guy......kinda like the one we have now mr brown ....whats his name oh yeah....tim the tax cheat .....hmmmm  isnt he going to be the one to advise the new sec of health that we get with the new tax uhhhh ....i mean health bill!

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i dont even know who that is ...is he the guy that signs our money???? i know you said he worked for Bush but other than that what is his claim to fame?

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Brown, don't throw my name into conversations which I clearly am not a part of simply to appear witty.  Quite frankly, it's tired and played out.  You posted earlier that you did not appreciate angie making comments regarding you since she doesn't know you or know anything about you.  And I quote:


"Red read her entire comment to me when she was never addressed and her other comments to me on here. Saying outright things that not only are not true but she knows nothing about me or people like me. My age? I do know about boss hogs when I hear one snort."


What makes you think you are the only one who feels this way?  You show absolutely no respect to anyone.  I have no idea how you have managed to be a nurse for as long as you claim, but I do know that your attitude and hatefulness give everyone in the profession a bad name. You clearly have some deep rooted self esteem issues which make you feel as though you have to treat other people horribly in order to feel better about yourself.  You are a sad case.  I know, I know, you don't care how I feel, what I think, IF I think, and so on and so on....I've heard it all from you before so you can save it.  Something tells me however, that you won't save it, because people with low self esteem typically  have to have the last word in order to feel empowered and good about themselves.


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