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Posted over 3 years ago Don't you think insurance companies should start paying for alternative treatments such as acupuncture/other holistic therapies?? My thoughts on why they do not are that they are "in bed" with the drug companies to try to keep people on meds instead of paying for "wellness" related healthcare/preventative treatments. They'd rather keep people dependent on the current system so they get all their $$$. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I do believe the pharmaceutical companies and anyone "in bed" with them, has a great deal to do with how healthy care is advocated in this country. If today, everyone in the US took their health seriously, started eating right, got rid of unhealthy habits, exercised, etc... Can you imagine what an impact that would have on the medical community? Prevention is key. People taking responsbility for health prevention is key! Joyce Harrell, RN, OCN
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| Posted over 3 years ago If there were robust studies about the efficacy of non-traditional treatments, then by all means, they should be covered. But the fact is seed extracts, dung beetle larvae extract and seeweedroot juice just do not stand up to examination. Modern medicines may not be perfect.. but if I have a tumor... please give me effective chemotheraputics and not extract of green tea and "Theraputic massage" Man will not be free until the last lawyer is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. With apologies to Voltaire |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Alphamale, I'm afraid you're one of those people that likes to argue just for the sake of arguing. Have you ever tried any "alternative medicines", or are you just one of those people who will only do/try something if it's been "accredited" by all-powerful Science?? I do believe that traditional medications are necessary for some people, however I completely agree with Herbalnurse in that if we as a nation took measures to prevent disease and take care of ourselves then we may not even need drugs! Or a LOT less of them! |
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| Posted over 3 years ago I agree that there is a time, place, and application for these types of remedies. I also agree that certification for those treatments should be mandatory and governed by a licensing board if you want them covered. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Hi I am a nursing student and have a master's degree in chinese medicine which includes a number of modalities such as acupuncture and the use of chinese herbal medicine. Having practiced for 9 years, I do think that insurance companies should pay better than they do. Certification for acupuncture and chinese herbology is mandatory in the US. There is a national licensing board, the NCCAOM (National Certification Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine) and some states have their own licensing requirements. California is the most difficult state to get a license in. While many states use the NCCAOM exams in acupuncture and herbology, they all require licensing. There are also disciplinary committies. I've seen first hand what acupuncture can do in the hospice setting. Patients who receive acupuncture have fewer side effects from pain medications and use less pain medication. Families are given precious moments to make memories they otherwise may have missed. Chindren make hand prints with parents or grand parents. I knew that doctors realized our value when one hung an x-ray of an impacted bowel and immediately asked "Where is the acupuncturist?" We also used aromatherapy. Certain cents would calm patients and you could see the stress melt away form their brows. While I believe that western and eastern medicine should join in the treatment of all patients, I strongly agree that there must me ways of assuring affective care. It scares me when some one who has taken a 6 week course in herbs hangs out a shingle and opens a store to cure the ills of all. And as for crystals rotating over bodies and all that jazz - Pooy.
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| Posted over 3 years ago Hello chinson, Would you be so generous-I am wondering how you decided to make the switch to western medicine. I am curious how or if you are planning to use your knowledge and experience in alternative/complementary medicine/modalities. Very fascinating to me as I am a bodyworker, yoga therapist and movement/sound healer and I have wanted to study nursing for a long time finally now applying to a course of study. Thank god. It seems so right to blend the two if we could only convice the AMA. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Hi rebirth_41 I often get this question! I plan to work in Hospice. I was fortunate to work in San Diego Hospice's inpatient unit for 2 years. It was the nurses who began to realize our value and pushed for the acupuncturists to be included in patient and staff meetings. The work was very rewarding. Hospice used sound therapy, aromatherapy and massage regularly. We slowly were accepted by the M.D.'s and gave inservice CEU's for M.D.'s on how to combine both methods of healing. I want to move pallative care forward to include both western and eastern choices. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Hi chinson, Fantastic and much luck to you! We need more like you on the front line to educate-it's the only way to open them to other choices It so happens that I have a strong pull toward hospice actually it would be my number one choice. I have been thinking along these lines for a couple years now. This will probably sound crazy but on the night of my senior prom I read Ross-"On death and dying" my mom gave me the book along with all of her medical/health related books. My yoga students read this about me in my bio and some were impressed I thought that I was too serious and too mature for my age. At first I thought of counseling the families it seems as though as a nurse you do that also! My strength is energy work and I have seen wonderful results with my clients. I think it has to do with the fact that I am a meditative dancer as well so I am always using reiki and energy tools in my work. Fascinating- now it is about choosing a program and getting funded. May I ask you, can LPN's work in hospice? I am trying to decide RN or LPN and work toward it while gettting me feet wet. Thank you for your response and look forward to hearing comments/suggestions.~rebirth13. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Hi again rebirth_41, I do believe LPN's can work in hospice. LVN is a stepping stone too my RN. I live in California and most schools are lottery entrance. Not right in my opinion, I believe it should be academic, but that's just my opinion. I plan on finishing my LVN and the going on for my RN. Statistically I have a MUCH higher chance of getting placed intp 1 of 10 slots when there are 30 or so people applying versus the thousands that apply to the 20 RN slots - about 1 in 200. I will work as an LVN and then continue my education. As for paying for school, I am working on scholarship applications, grants, loans and will consider working in underserved areas to get my education paid for. I find it's the day to day financial needs to be the challenge. It took me 3 years to work through a waiting list to get to this point. I start August 2010. I'm very excited. I'm definately not a spring chicken - 51 - but this is just the ONE thing in my life I feel led to do. |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Hi chinson, Know what you mean I am 41 and I too feel led this way. I have no desire to go back to previous careers (restaurant owner and interior designer) I am divorced with two little ones and if I am going to work really hard it has to be fulfilling. I am getting mixed reviews as whether to start as lvn or rn. I have had people say lpn/lvn was beneath me-go figure? Wow why is there such an influx of folks wanting to work as nurses, I have always thought there was such demand or is it according to placement testing. I, too am having major financial difficulty that is why I was considering one year of study to start earning right away. WIth your experience both in life and professionally I think you will perservere, you have amazing gifts to offer in teaching and healing. Keep moving toward the light! Have happy holidays~rebirth_41 |
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| Posted over 3 years ago Good Morning rebirth_41. Thanks for your warm wishes. I will have a AS degree with my LVN. I to have to support myself. It's only time. Have a wonderful holiday. |

