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Funding Issues Vs Client Care
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Posted over 5 years ago I work in a public health department. Everyday I see the effects of managed care and medicaid changes hurting our ability to keep our doors open. We are the health care providers of choice for our clients. We have the history with them, they trust us and they expect us to be there for them. When billing is denied by managed care or slow paid it gets harder and harder to keep our doors open. People leave because of frustration and we can not replace those nurses or clerks. So our clients are taken care of by fewer personell and have longer waits. Public Health is an integral part of our Nation's healthcare system. You do not want us reduced to immunization clinics. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago We have the same issues where I work. It is very frustrating. Some days it feels like I am totally unable to do my job because of funding issues dictating how, when, and how often I can see my clients! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago i think that in our money hungry society, that the government tends to forget about those who are less fortunate and of those who care for these people. which is unfortunate. personally, to me money is of no concern for me, and i would never leave my job because of the tensions that come with this type of problem. economically, yes, it can hurt a practice who does for the community, and there are not to many places that take medicaid due to the fact that it can slump a business. when patients with medicaid come in, then the business doesnt make much profit, and thus can cause complications. this is why i think that our society needs to look at other options to make a better balance for both the patients and the clients. it is not their fault that they work, and work hard for their money but it isnt enough to suffice the medical needs of their families, and for the paractices that offer services to these clients it can be a burden and it hurts us emotionally to have these things happen and for us witnessing turn downs due to the fact that our government and economy stinks. i am apologetic to those who have had hardships because of the things that are going on in our healthcare system.. people get the short end of the stick alot and that is not how things need to be going. |
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| Posted about 5 years ago you know do to the fact that my fiancés job does not provide health insurance, i have to keep my son and myself covered under the medical card and i have found personally they are paying for less and less. i need serious dental work for myself and they don't cover anesthesia, but i need a surgical procedure. my son can go to see his pediatrician, but insurance won't cover his vaccinations there. i have to take him to the local health department to get his vaccinations. now it seems to me that if you want people to have better health, so that they don't cost the government more money, you'd provide more coverage for those individuals. i think that anyone that owns a business no matter how small, no matter if they work all yr round, no excuses; should have to provide the option of healthcare coverage for their employees and their families! i like my local health department, but seriously why do i have a pediatrician if they don't cover the necessary things that need to be done? i can take my son in to the health department for everything and not have to travel to 2 different places in order to get the services. it's a bit on the silly side! |
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| Posted about 5 years ago With the cost of healthcare increasing exponentially, what does everyone think of Universal Healthcare (or Universal Health Insurance)? |
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| Posted about 5 years ago I think we have enabled and developed a co-dependency for the poor. Yes, there are working poor, but our system has so much 911 abuse, the ambulance services and hospital EDs have become overwhelmed. We give the clients info on free clinics, but most aren't willing to make appts, or wait their turn, and have made the decision to call 911 for their medical care. Granted, free clinics are limited, but these folks are running the risk of death because they won't advocate for themselves, and figure it's not their job to take care of themselves. I know it sounds harsh, but somewhere along the way, gov't going to have to draw a line in the sand, and natural selection will have to take over. As far a Universal Healthcare goes, anyone carrying insurance would not be eligible, and those countries that have it, budget procedures. If you need an operation, wait your turn. |
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| Posted about 5 years ago Some interesting problems stated here, but what are the solutions? What do you think the solutions would be or could be and why? |
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| Posted about 5 years ago That's half the problem, I don't know that there are any solutions. So many people have gotten to the point where they think this is the way the system works for them so why change? All it really does is drain dollars away from where it could be used more efficiently. If a visit to the ED runs $1500-3000, and an ambulance ride is $550, how many prescriptions could that pay for for a person over the course of a year? The only way to really change the bad behavior is to reward people for good behavior. $1000 dollars on Dec 15th if you haven't been to the ED in the past year, and an account with the primary physician to cover the costs of monthly visits, and patient scripts to be provided in the MD office for the common scripts, for the course of a year. It would still be cheaper than monthly ED visits. |
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| Posted about 5 years ago you are right that that would be cheaper. there definitely, here in ohio, is misuse and abuse of the ambulance services as well as ED visits. personally i won't go to the ED unless i am in so much pain that it can't wait, while the doctors office is closed over the weekend! there were 2 news stations here in ohio that did a bit of research and found that there were so many cases of abuse to the ambulance service in cleveland that it was costing the tax payers more money than it should. not to mention it was cutting down on response time to critically ill patients receiving treatment. people were actually calling the ambulance for hang nails, std's and other things that made no sense. to fix the problem the city would have to initiate a law that specifies that people have to have a real emergency, they would then have to specify what they consider to be a real emergency. which they do not want to do. i'm not sure that there would not be a benefit that would be great enough to keep people from abusing the system. even if we had universal health care, some where some one would find a way to misuse that service as well. |
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| Posted about 5 years ago Bare with me I have a few points: >Ambulances: I feel torn on this one, For example my Grandfather (who recently passed away) had numerous falls and it was quite difficult to get him back to his feet, as he was 6' and 200plus# when my husband was not around to help me. We had to call for help, which was convenient since he lived one block away from a volunteer FD. YET, I felt bad at the same time because I know how it decreases response times (especially in rural areas) because I nearly lost my mother 6 years ago to a gun shot wound to the head during a home invasion. At that point !! SECONDS ARE CRITICAL !! >ERs: to hear about someone going to the ED for something that is NON-Emergent is just plain aggrivating. I feel as though the general public needs to be "trained" on what is appropriate for the ED, vs Urgent Care, vs what can wait for their PCP. >PCP: this is a tough one too, because people without insurance will usually wait until "its pretty bad" then go into an Urgent Care, because up until this point there was no PREVENTATIVE CARE. For those who do have insurance or Medi/Medi, it is becoming harder and harder to find FP docs who are accepting new pt's as well as it being "within network". I do agree also that necessary vaccinations should be obtained through the est. Pediatrician. Many people (again especially those without ins) would rather just go to the State Nurse for the vacc. and into an Urgent Care when their kids get sick. Once again to preventative med. nor managed care for possible underlying causes. >Insurance companies: They now require prior auth for almost everything - this leads to less time for care and more time on the phone, and no guarantee that it will get approved. The costs are going up and the coverage is going down. BUT what a suprise, an HMO CEO made off with an annual salary of like 4mil. This is because they get rewarded for saving the company money by the higher numbers of denial letters they write.
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| Posted about 5 years ago Don't feel bad about calling an ambulance for an assist the invalid. Our Fire Dept requires a set of vitals just to rule out causes for the falls. It's different when people are calling for a cold they've had for 3 weeks, and it's now 3am, or they've been out of their BP meds for 5 months and it's 3am, and they have had a headache for the past week. LOL, can't wait to retire from that part of my career. 11 months and counting! |
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| Posted about 5 years ago Funding issues vs client care presents a difficult issue for the nurse and ultimately the doctors and fundamentally the team. Example many times the patient could be required a medical test and your director might say she has done those test ten times already discourage the doctors from ordering another one. The nurse then becomes caught in the middle. Solution: Give the doctor the information regarding the patient and the patients history and he will make that decision. The doctor's decision is the ultimate decision, but he must be given all the facts and they must not be presented in a bias manner. |