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Poll: Should the Fed be allowed to remove junk food from schools?

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The Obama administration will begin a drive this week to expel Pepsi, French fries and Snickers bars from the nation’s schools in hopes of reducing the number of children who get fat during their school years. In legislation, soon to be introduced, candy and sugary beverages would be banned and many schools would be required to offer more nutritious fare.


Do you think our government should be allowed to restrict the kinds of things our kids eat?

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No I don't think the gov't should control or decide what my kids eat/drink that my job as a parent, but they should not have acess to those items at school.

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I have seen on shows like 60 minutes or other shows like that where there is a principle that banned the junk food in her school.  Not only did she stop the school from providing it for the children, but she also sent out notices to the parents that they were not allow to send it in the children's lunches from the home.  The children were only allowed to have fresh veggies and fresh fruit, and no sodas.  One of the problems with that is not everyone can afford to eat a healthy diet.  If you look at the price of food that is bad for you and full of sodium or sugar you will find that these items are cheaper than the food that is good for you. 


I don't think the gov't should tell a parent what they can or can't feed their children, but I don't think the children should have access to it either.  I think it shouldn't be on the school property until maybe the high school ages, but even then it should be locked up and not available until after school or during functions.  That way the parents have many years to instill in the child of what is good to eat.


I also believe that the gov't should do something to make the food that is good for you affordable. There are many people that would love to feed their families better food but can't due to money.


 

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Ok, maybe Im in a time warp but when I was in school and up through high school, carbonanated drinks were not allowed on the property, which was funny because there was a smoking section in the parking lot.  There were no vending machines with candy and crap like that, either.  Maybe im wrong but kids are spoiled rotten and shouldnt eat this crap either, nor should they smoke.  I dont want the govt dictating what a mother feeds her kids but maybe they should pack a lighter and a ciggy along with that snickers............ this is getting stupid.  Maybe if people quit letting their kids go grazing and playing nintendo for their activity we wouldnt have this crap rammed down our throughts.  Maybe we asked for it passively.  Bad choices for 2 decades will lead to no choices of our own,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hence going broke because we are caring for obese children and this could have been avoided by smart food choices and regular exercise. 

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parents seem to be becoming more unfit for child raising as time goes on. with diisreguard to healthy habits the diets of children begin to revolve around fast food and fried food and soda. yes it is cheaper and thats unfortunate cuz its only gonna get worse unless there is drastic changes in high places soon. when i mention organic, i get comments like, 'organic tastes funny'. organic is the original taste ppl! This govt food regulation i say NO to, removing food freedom is not the answer, i real solution is emphasizing the value of healthy, nonprocessed, and affordable food. The funny thing is this is COMMON SENSE. me n this 'great' govt of ours r beginning to have irreconcilable difference.

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 With the number of children getting diabetes how can we not  provide nutritious lunches and snacks as well as physical and nutritional education? It is the only responsible option.

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As for a healthy diet being more expensive than an unhealthy one.. a little research will show you that simply is not true....


 


Oatmeal is a LOT cheaper than sugared cereals.


Sugar free drink mix is a LOT cheaper than soda.


We eat almost NO processed food... and other than tuna I cannot remeber the last time i ate something canned.


 


I watch people with food stamps buy almost nothing but processed food... cannned pasta, etc etc..


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if you were a parent i think you would be quite unpopular. 

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if you were a parent i think you would be quite unpopular



 


Yeah but the kids would not be fat lumps... " It is far better to be feared than respected"


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unfortunately eating the same thing gets old and children wil get tired of it  quickly and will sneak off and eat something unhealthy behind the parents back. 

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unfortunately eating the same thing gets old and children wil get tired of it  quickly and will sneak off and eat something unhealthy behind the parents back. 



I can assure you  helathy diet can be as varied as an unhealthy one.... As for the kids sneaking unhelathy food.. Yeah? So What?  At least they will not eat it on a daily basis and be encouraged to do so by the parents.


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I can't believe I'm agreeing with alphamale, but I am!


Who cares if you're "unpopular" with your kids? I suspect most of the backlash against eating "healthfully," when it comes to kids is because the PARENTS don't want to do so themselves. I can't believe people would care more about spending time on watching trash TV than making a healthy meal for themselves, and those bad eating habits just continue with the parents.


Should schools ban things from kids lunches? No. But should they be pushers of sugary sodas and crappy snacks? Hell no. 

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I believe it should be a joint effort between the governent and the parents in making sure that their kids are eating the right food.


A healthy nation should have a healthy people.


"happiness depends upon ourselves"

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Actually the issue is, as always, about the money. Soft drink and junk food/snack manufacturers make significant donations to schools in return for the right to put in vending machines and have their products sold in the cafeteria and other food venues such as the booths at football games, etc.


The last thing that we the people need is to have the government trying to control one more element in our lives!  The track record of this Congress and Administration is lousy after only one year. Besides, you cannot mandate or legislate morality or common sense.


AngieHeartNurse is correct. When I was in school (back in the 60s) we had MILK to drink every day at lunch-no substitutions unless you had a doctors' note stating that you were allergic to milk and then you could get water instead.  We also had parents who expected us to behave at school and God help you if you got in trouble and had to go to the principal's office because they would call your mother and it was going to be even worse when you got home.  Teachers were all powerful and NOBODY's mama ever came to the school to 'cuss out' a teacher.


I realize that I am waxing nostalgic, but we had a much better nation and school system when parents had the guts to be parents and not expect the schools/government to raise their kids for them.

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WiseOldOwl was in school the same time as me - In the early 60's our Junior High School had two snack machines in the hall. One had milk, and the other apples!


Actually, the school situation does not need to be "government control." The school can opt to serve healthy lunches and have healthy snack machines, but the parents can pack a lunch for the student, and the school has no say in what it contains.

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While it is true that the schools can make the decision NOT to have the junk food on the school grounds; I don't believe that they will, because there is money that is made off of this stuff.  This is why (I believe) the gov't will have to step in to inforce that the junk food to be banned on school grounds.   Until I reach high school I too didn't have any junk food or sodas on campus, and then in high school the machines were only open before and after school and during games or functions.


As we all know if you start feeding the baby/child good healthy food early and not introduce them to junk; they will actually crave it as they get older.   Unfortunately I don't believe that a lot of the parents don't  know what truly is good, and what to look for on the labels when they are shopping.  I know as an adult I didn't until I went to nursing school.  I grew up in a house where we didn't sit down to eat and my mother was a working mother so she made quick/easy meals.  Back then there were not as many quick good-for-you foods, so we ate a bunch of sodium filled processed foods.  My point to this is we need to educated the parents and if the schools will not fix the junk food problem on their own then the gov't will have to step in to take control.

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School is one of the few places where you can truly influence people (children). 


How many times have you taken care of the diabetic patient with only one foot left and and multiple oozing ulcers on it?  they can't walk and barely take care of themselves and about to lose their only foot.  You teach and be compassionate and feed them hospital issued "diabetic" trays.  Their family strolls in at night and brings them some MacDonalds and a milkshake for dinner.  You can't take away their food and all the teaching in the world usually doesn't erase a lifetime of habits. 


I do believe in freedom to choose, but we as a society are failing terribly and paying for it dearly.  Drastic changes need to be made and this might be an effective change. 

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Actually the issue is, as always, about the money. Soft drink and junk food/snack manufacturers make significant donations to schools in return for the right to put in vending machines and have their products sold in the cafeteria and other food venues such as the booths at football games, etc.


The last thing that we the people need is to have the government trying to control one more element in our lives!  The track record of this Congress and Administration is lousy after only one year. Besides, you cannot mandate or legislate morality or common sense.


AngieHeartNurse is correct. When I was in school (back in the 60s) we had MILK to drink every day at lunch-no substitutions unless you had a doctors' note stating that you were allergic to milk and then you could get water instead.  We also had parents who expected us to behave at school and God help you if you got in trouble and had to go to the principal's office because they would call your mother and it was going to be even worse when you got home.  Teachers were all powerful and NOBODY's mama ever came to the school to 'cuss out' a teacher.


I realize that I am waxing nostalgic, but we had a much better nation and school system when parents had the guts to be parents and not expect the schools/government to raise their kids for them.



When you used the term waxing it .............seemed sort of uncomplementary.  What I do wax is personal and not anybodies beeswax.........but it didnt sound like the kind of waxing we do when getting ready for summer wear.  It sounds like finding a place for me in a museum, huh?  I feel like a crappy old crank.  But I still drink milk because I love it but now I choose 1% nutrish.........sort of like whitish water, but im use to it and it still has loads of vit D and calcium in it.

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Back to the topic:  If the Obamas find that we are whelping a bunch of diabetic, heart wasting lard butts, also leading to loss of pulmonary function and  costing the taxpayers billions of bucks to treat.............then they then have my ok to wire they teeth together as well.   No..........I do not want the President and his wife that I do NOT like at all in my home making decisions for myself and my children who college grads now, but what about my future grandkids?  I dont want them in their business either.   But if they feed them crap they deserve it.  However, I do think the entire population should not be punished for a few who are running up the health care bills for everyone.  Wire those kids teeth together.........leave my practical, educated, and healthy kids babies to them.........plus they pay for their own health insurance.    There has to be a way to weed out the bad apples.  There is a new thing that was shown on the news today.  The govt can use our gps on cell phones to track us anywhere.  They can track people with diagnosis of HTN, diab, obesity and copd and see what stops they make on the day checks get sent out.  They can track for trips to McDonalds, Wendy's, Dairy Queen, etc..............     Do the right thing for the country, but do it fair.

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So will the Obamas and Pelosis and others who want to control all the other aspects of our lives be setting the example for what is acceptable to eat?  Will The Prez give up his cheeseburgers with french fries that he ordered on the Air Force One show that was on the History Channel last week?  Will cow's milk be replaced by BEER as the PETA people suggested several years ago?


Am I the only one who is sick of the special interest horse manure that people keep wanting to satisfy/accomodate whenever the pile starts to stink?  If the Government cannot find a way to stop people from smoking, drinking and other 'nonhealthy' behaviors then HOW is this new notion suppposed to be accomplished? 


We could all plant 'victory gardens' as was done in the past to assure an adequare supply of food for the civilian population, but who would decide WHAT would be planted and HOW it would be fertilized and treated or not treated for pests in order to keep the population safe from the poisons which would be used to keep out bugs and whatever contamination they might deposit on the plants?


The National School Lunch Program is already administered by the U. S. Department of Agriculture (a government agency).  At the same time we have State Boards of Education who are cutting back on such things as teachers and other necessary parts of the school systems.  My daughter works as a teacher and has already been 'furloughed' once this year. In her school system, and yet this school makes a point of sending home 'sack lunches' to kids every night and weekend who would not otherwise have any food due to their socioeconomic situation at home.


As Americans we have the right to CHOOSE.  We can make either GOOD choices or BAD ones.  To diet or not, to exercise or not, to smoke and drink or not, etc.etc.


And all of this worry coming from a bunch of people who have NO PROBLEM with abortion, owing trillions of dollars to Red China, failing to provide good-enough care for our veterans and elderly citizens (and going so far as to define what constitutes the right to live and receive care).


Thanks but no thanks.


 

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To:Angieheartnurse


My dear sister-the term 'waxing nostalgic'  is another way of saying 'remembering the past'.  It has nothing to do with paraffin or whatever is used to pull out hair from its roots.


I am definitely getting old.

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Now I feel so sorry for the Obama's kids.  Michelle will have them developing eating disorders by putting info with their bmi on television.  I grew up with a mom who said I was 'chunky' growing up, hence I grew up with eating disorders that I've battled my entire life.   I was also the one who sold my dessert at school for cash, peanut butter cookie day was a money maker.   She should be ashamed of herself.   Those little girls are beautiful and the thought of them made to feel less than that as a preteen is cruel.

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i don't think michelle is putting any of this on her kids . she is just taking up a social justice cause as many many first ladies have done.  this one however is going to be tougher than some as many if not most of these kids have to eat off SCHIP and you should see the food that those kids eat!!! egads its pretty horrific!

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You know, as a country, are taking less and less responsibility for our daily living. It's not MY fault MY kids are fat it's the food stamps or WIC or whatever. It's not MY fault I have lung cancer from smoking cigarettes, it's the cigarette companies' fault.




It is MY responsibility to keep my kids healthy. I work with families that are on welfare/food stamps/WIC and it IS the CHOICES they pick to purchase. The WAY they cook the food and serve it. There is not excuse for not CHOOSING healthier foods on food stamps/WIC. Paretns don't seem to want to say"NO" to children these days.




Popular or not at my house that I am paying for the mortgage/lights/cable/water and anything else that my kids need then that makes me and my husband the supreme rulers and what we say goes. My kids eat healthy. They are allowed to junk it every so often, but the food is not bought and put in the house, so the CHOICES my kids have....carrot sticks or apples. If my kds are unhappy with me...well, life will go on and when they are RESPONSIBLE fro another life then they can make those decisions. Until then they need to live by the law of the land!

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Unfortunately, parents are the ones to teach thier children healthy eating habits. It's not alwyas easy. My daughter was of normal weight until she hit 7. We had moved and she adopted the bad habit of eating more and exercising less. As a mother, I wanted to help her, but with dynamics of the mother/daughter thing I was concerned I'd just end up fighting her and making her feel deprived.


A Godsend came to us in the form of a program called "Commited to kids". It was started by a pediatrician in the Baton Rouge area. He was trying to address the growing obesity epidemic in children. The program was a year long. It included labs, and weekly meetings with the staff, parents and children. The staff consisted of an exercise physiologist, a psychologist, the MD, and dieticians.


My daughter lost 25 pounds. She was given the tools to succed in weight maintenance without me having to be the bad guy. This was in 1997. My daughter is now an adult, and has maintained a healthy weight since she completed the program. The program cost $2000.00,buty it was the best money I ever spent for my daughter. I would hope that more Doctors, and health agencies come up with programs such as these. Houston Chronicle just ran an article today about programs set up to help children in the CHIPS program. Sometimes parents need a little help.


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You know, as a country, are taking less and less responsibility for our daily living. It's not MY fault MY kids are fat it's the food stamps or WIC or whatever. It's not MY fault I have lung cancer from smoking cigarettes, it's the cigarette companies' fault...........


 



I agree, everyone wants someone to blame. As a parent I took responsibility for my children. I taught them good manners and also a healthy lifestyle. I did not let them eat the sugery cereals because it was quicker, I made the oatmeal, or cooked them some other healthy breakfast. I avoided processed foods as much as possible, and their snacks were vegies and some fruits.  As they got older I let them decide on some of their foods. I was surprised that even though they tried the junk foods, they came back to healthy foods.


So I am against the government controling what kids eat. Let the schools concentrate on teaching the academics and let the parents decide what their children eat.


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The previous post mentioned WIC.........that's run by the health dept in our county.  I had a home health patient, wound care after and infected c section.............and I remember many verbal altercations between the patient and significant other yelling because he wanted her to make a WIC run for more juice:  apple and orange to mix with vodka.  Jeez, that dude was a sorry waste of skin.  She's in tears and while he's yelling his juice list out....................he wouldnt go because he was 'too embarrasssed to use the WIC vouchers' and yelling get the change out of the ashtray to get a pack of ciggies.  That baby was on her last case of pampers and he's wanting mixers for the booze and smokes. 

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A lot of parents say that it is there responsibility to monitor what there kids eat but are they really walking the talk. I volunteer at a elementry school at lunch time. The packed lunches are just as unhealthy as the choices the kids make in the lunch line. Also kids spend most of there time in school so what better place to start to show them how to make healthy choices with there meals and to work out. I agree with what the government is doing, Too many of these children are obese and struggling with diabetes.

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When I was in BCT we could eat cake every day. Only there was a price 1 Calorie in = 1 Calorie out .  Some how they managed to calculate 1 repatition was equal to 1 Calorie.  Army math. Go figure. So a 700 calorie slice of cake ment 700 crunches, sit ups, push ups, etc... needles to say we didn't eat cake that often.  On a more serious note, while these treats do have an important role in our lives (in moderation)  all too often kids rely on vending machines for lunch. I would often skip the lunch line so I coiuld hang out with my friends more, and that ment lunch was a candy bar, bag of chips and soda. Boy do you pay for that kind of meal later. I almost flunked out of Math because it was after lunch.  An ongoing debate for years, it is not such a simple question. Is this a job for the Fed? Where do private schools come in to play? What are the parents of these children teaching them about sound nutritional choices? Do the schools in question offer a health program that covers what parents don't know about nutrition?  What role does our Government have in deciding what our children eat at school? Where these guidlines created before vending machines became a staple item of convienience?  While I don't believe these items belong in the schools, I think we need to take a more active role instead of turning it over to the Feds. Yes this is difficult. So is life. At the end of the day we are responsable for the decisions that we make.

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Shan4691 says ...



You know, as a country, are taking less and less responsibility for our daily living. It's not MY fault MY kids are fat it's the food stamps or WIC or whatever. It's not MY fault I have lung cancer from smoking cigarettes, it's the cigarette companies' fault...........


 



I agree, everyone wants someone to blame. As a parent I took responsibility for my children. I taught them good manners and also a healthy lifestyle. I did not let them eat the sugery cereals because it was quicker, I made the oatmeal, or cooked them some other healthy breakfast. I avoided processed foods as much as possible, and their snacks were vegies and some fruits.  As they got older I let them decide on some of their foods. I was surprised that even though they tried the junk foods, they came back to healthy foods.


So I am against the government controling what kids eat. Let the schools concentrate on teaching the academics and let the parents decide what their children eat.


 


 



I agree with Nurse _John...mostly.  I have seen a lot of comments about how the gov't sticks their nose in too much, but this is one instance where I halfheartedly agree with it.  Parents SHOULD have the control of what their children eat, and parents SHOULD be aware of what their children are eating (espesically the ones who are overweight, getting limited exercise, and at serious risk for health issues as a result of poor nutrition).  Unfortunately many parents are not parents anymore.  We all see this, and we all know this to be true.  Children are becoming more like accessories to a family than actual members.  SOMEONE needs to take control somewhere, and it needs to start early.


Eating healthy DOES NOT always cost a lot more, but I do agree that it should be much more reasonable. I think the price of a fast foot burger should be $10.00 or better...a meal $20.00...and a portion of what the fast food companies make should go toward affordable healthcare, or research.   Fresh chicken should be cheaper, as should lean ground beef and turkey, fresh fruits and vegetables...think of the turnaround for farming!  (I know, I know, potatoes =  fries, low quality beef = fast food burgers, which both in turn = big profit.  Problem is they also = increased medical insurance premiums, increased incidences of obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, stroke, diabetes, and hyperlipidemia.)


I have 5 kids (four still living at home) and sometimes we have more than that in the house, as most of you can probably imagine.  I will not have piles of junkfood in my house.  Meals here are very well balanced - even if they are simple.  But what many don't realize is, it's a matter of educating, and it's a matter of the parents caring enough to be receptive and implement changes in lifestyles.  We all have a CHOICE - no one is going to make me eat a twinkie because it's cheaper than those carrot sticks!!!


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