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Posted about 3 years ago

 

I flunked my lasr section of med surg by 1 point.  Out of 16 students 7 failed and the teacher made a big thing about us sucking it up and she wasn't going to be adjusting any of her teaching responsibilities.


We appealed the decision just asking if we could finish out our preceptorship and ob/gyn classes.  We were told no, and completely humiliated.  We thenhad to reapply.


The process consisted of retaking the 3rd semester test (that we hadn't failed), making a skills video and written application.  Because of the bad feelings in the department e-mails were not answered, time was not made available to students to explain problems.  I turned in my video and with one of the instructors was told what was wrong, I could not get in with the other instructor so I read through the material and returned in the video.  I turned it in on the 10th it was due the 15th durning spring break.


I was the only one to pass my retake on first try out of 7 .  So the I get another call and am told I am permanently out of the program because I was only allowed to turn in my video twice.  Again I have e-mailed instructors to find out what the problems are, I am not apparently where I should be for a last semester nurse.  Had I passes the test this would have been a none issue.   They are upset thar=t I didn't meet with the other instructor before the video, but she was having a hard time getting back to me.


So now I am out of school, I am an LPN not fit to be an RN.  I disagree with their tactics and feel as if I have just gone into major debt with limited ability to pay it back.  I almost lost my job because of the reduced hours in order to go to school.


It is not about  making it or not making it, it is about instructors who are not or are not able to do their jobs..  They blame it on the accredidation policies.  If federal money was handed out to successful programs or if 20 out of 40 students are flunked out and the staff is cut to minimum hours, I believe we would see more instructors helping students be successful.  I wonder as women are we afraid so of the new nurses that we are unwilling to teach adequately.

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Rate This | Posted about 3 years ago

 

This is a common tale.  My school flunked out 30 or 70 students in Pharmacology.  The numbers really don't seem to bother them at all.


Its a shitty deal, but the best thing you can do is to reapply, preferrably at another school.  In the end you will have the satisfaction that they didnt destroy you, despite their best attempt.  As for me, I'm a third year student.  I'm going to print your post and tape it to my door for a while as a daily motivational tool to study.  As for you, admit to yourself that you didnt try hard enough, even if you thought you did, then go out and do better.  You only wasted your money if you quit now!

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Rate This | Posted almost 3 years ago

 

     There were 80 Rn students in my class the first 6 weeks of school. They call the first 6 weeks bootcamp, if you don't make it you're out. No talking will get you back in. They pat themselves on the back for having one of the highest pass ratings for NCLEX in this part of illinois and how they achieve that is   "Let those less likely to pass, go early!"  By making it so hard the first 6 weeks only half the class passes. This is rediculous and a lot of good students and RN's to be do not make it when they should. If the testing you take to get into the program doesn't show your ability to make it, then why test? Just let anyone into the program who decides this is their new major. I can't tell you how many students i saw being pushed out by instructors who didn't " think they fit the bill". It's all a big game. I was lucky enough to make it through. Those 3 years of my life were indeed the hardest. There was a girl in my lpn class who had to sue  the college in order to go back second semester because she was out for 3 weeks with gallbladder surgery. She got back in, but they made it hard as hell on her and even though she tested high on the RN Pre entrance exam. ( Higher than Me ) They did not let her into the RN program. It's a sad thing, but those instructors can be brutal.... Don't give up Hikaru, pick yourself up and have another go at it. It's all worth it in the end......

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Rate This | Posted almost 3 years ago

 

As a nursing instructor, I am very sad to read your story and see people who want to be nurses not able to complete their programs.  I am especially disturbed by the blaming the whole thing on "accreditation".  I am in the middle of preparing for an accreditation visit in our school from NLNAC (one of the two main accreditors for nursing schools, the other is CCNE).  I know that accreditation does NOT say that students must be treated as expendable.  What accreditation DOES verify is that schools DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO.  In other words, everything regarding passing requirements must be clear, objective, and fairly applied.  I don't know enough about your situation to tell if they met this standard.  However, if you feel like they were not clear, objective, or fair...I would suggest that you write to the agency that accredits the school and let them know of your concerns.  Believe me, this is taken seriously.  It may not help you, but it will help others behind you.


 


In the meantime, I would go to other schools.  Because all schools have attrition, they usually have spots in their program for students who have passed some nursing courses but need to finish.  I have taught students who "flunked out" of other schools but went ahead to graduate with flying colors.


I have a student in my course currently who failed and had to reapply to get in.  As I told her, I wil tell you.  The hard work will be worth it.  The increased pain and stress you feel now will make success that much sweeter.


Best wishes!

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Rate This | Posted almost 3 years ago

 

Dear david_7: 


So sorry to hear this! I am a nursing tutor at a local college, and I try to help students stay in the program.


Our instructors there all work hard and are very open; they help students stay in, not try to flunk them! In my program we started with 90 students and they expanded it to 195 students because the demand was so high. It's a tough program, but students that hang in there get tutoring and work with instructors in smaller class sizes to help them do well.


I have tutored students from other nursing schools. It seems like some other schools have instructors that are either not trained in teaching or the program is not well designed, and as a result students have a high rate of dropping out or flunking.


It takes a special person to teach students. When you apply to other programs, think about meeting with the faculty ahead of time if possible, and choose a school with a faculty that is passionate about both teaching and their students' success.


Best of luck to you,


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