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What's the difference between an MA and an LPN?
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Posted over 5 years ago I am currently in school to become an MA. Eventually I would like to become an LPN. What would I need to do to advance to an LPN? Would I just need to take more classes? |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I don't know much about the MA, what I here, it doesn't pay well, and some clinics, require LVN or RN's to give shots, and treatments, because they are licenses. The difference between a MA and a LVN is that LVN's can give administer medications, and if they get IV certified, they can start a IV. I think MA's can administer some medications, and is limited to certain type of procedures. The LVN is a License Vocational Nurse. The MA is a Medical Assistant. The MA workes beside doctor. A License Vocational nurse, can work in a clinic setting, and in a hospital setting, along side a Register Nurse. Schooling is about one year, if you go to a Junior College, yes, you will have to take seperate classes to enter the LVN program, if you go to a private college, the prequisistes is combined inside the program. It is more expensive though. Good Luck!! I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Hi i am a medical asssistant. I went trough a 1 year coursr at a community college. I worked in a doctors office. I did front office as well a back. Front would consist of billing,insurances,appts etc. In the back you work with the docs. You take vitals on adults as well as infants, assist with pap tests, draw blood. Depending on the doctor you may remove sutures. You will give various shots some for immunizations and some pain shots as well. You fill out his written perscriptions all he has to do is sign them. All of this is ok for you to do because in an office setting you are working under the doctors license. THis however would not carry over to a hospital setting. You basically are dare i say without upsetting anyone a doctors office nurse. While i want to be clear you are not a nurse the patinets think you are and most times the doctors will also call you a nurse. In the office where i worked there were no "nurses" only medical assistants. That's because they can pay an MA less and she can do the same job within an office setting. I liked my job. I know am into my nursing clinicals. Being an MA gave me a great chance to see the field before i decided to actually go into becomeing a nurse. Hope this helps. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Thank you for your response. I am taking a 21 month course for MA at YTI Career Institute. I am learning all that you have said that you do but the school is saying that you can do a lot with the training. I wasn't sure if they were being totally honest with what they were saying. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I am a Medical Assistant, but not working due to lack of jobs where I live, but doing my prereq's for the RN program. Medical Assistants do not pay a whole lot. You are pretty limited in the areas you can work. It is only in a doctors office. You can work in various specialties though and that can be exciting. LVN's can work in alot more places such as nursing homes, hospitals, homes, etc. The private school I went too conned me into taking the MA program instead of the LVN and I wish I would have just done the LVN. I would have saved money and have more job opportunities. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I am also a medical assistant. I t does not pay well so do not be conned into takeing a MA course that takes more than a year there is no reason. You will not get paid any more money if you are a CMA or RMA over someone who is just an MA meaning uncertified. And please do not take one of the Associate degree MA programns. It makes no since in the time it takes you to do that you could be an LPN and widen your job possibilities. I am currently in my clinicals for my LPN and wished i had just done that in the first place. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I personally can't even fathom that there are Associate degree programs for an MA, when you can get your ASN and become a Registered Nurse! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I am an LPN, wasn't really sure of the difference, but I've worked with many MA's....who were very competent, and even taught me some things. I just wanted to leave a note for those reading this thinking of becoming an LPN. Go straight to RN school. Yes, it's longer & harder but the pay is at least twice what an LPN makes. I did the LPN so I could hurry and start making some money. I was under the impression that I'd make more money than I do, shame on me for not doing my homework. Now I just have to kick start myself to the community college to start my RN. I have to start at the bottom, nothing from LPN school transfers, except the valuable experience. Good luck to all. And thanks to all the MA's. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I am an LPN who made the decision to become an LPN before going to school for my RN. I make $23.00 an hour. I work three twelve hour days a week and off for four days. I get paid every Friday. I became an LPN first because making the money that I make and working the three day a week schedule now gives me a better opportunity of being able to attend school to receive my RN. I start school on the 14th. There are several differences between an MA and an LPN, including pay. I am glad that I did it the way that I did. Jolynn1978 21 months is a long time for a MA program. With that kind of time you could have your RN. Just keeping it real! I agree with AngMarchant, there's no way I would spend 21 months to become an MA when you could spend 24 months and receive your RN degree and make triple what a MA makes. Hope this helps. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Hello I'm currently taking up Medical Assistant for a Associate Degree at Barstow Community College. I'm have way done there, but in the summer semester I will be learning the procedures for front and back office and then I have clinicals to do also. I had always wanted to work in the medical field. But I throught of being a RN nurse but I probably wont go that far cause my mom dont think I can done it, she said that you really have to be focus when it comes to it. And study but so far I went to nursing aid school for CNA I have successfully complete the course but not yet tooken the state exam. Any advice on being all most done with the medical assistant or becoming like a LPN. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I'd just like bto know where all of you are attending school, around here there is a hefty waitlist for anyone entering the RN program. Having just completed the program, my advice; if in the end you want to be an RN just go all the way right off the bat, everything changes so much every year, you'll save yourself having to repeat classes, etc..
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| Posted over 5 years ago I hope this help millions. I am from Maryland, and I relocated to NC to finish school. I am a LPN. One of my classmates asked the instructor is a MA considerable to a LPN. NO! Yes, it is true, MA's usually work in doctor's offices and urgent care clinics, as they do in MD. My children's Dr's office was full of them, and they were often called nurses. They did vaccines, lab draws, height, weight, vitals and charting. However, when compared to a LPN it is not the same. A LPN has the first year of nursing school under her/his belt, hence the title NURSE! LPN's learn the history of nursing, the nursing process, care plans, full physical assessments, not just the medication end of things. As well as when learn Pharmacology in it's entirety. Nurse's I know you know the 5 Rights of Med Administration, as well as Onset, Peak and Duration. So as far as basic clinical skills yes the MA learns what an LPN and RN learns, but not everything. Did I forget to mention, that we may insert NG tubes, suction & clean trachs, insert foleys, and we are governed by our State's Nurse Practice Acts. I am not downing the MA field of work at all, just staing the huge differences. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Thankful you are so right. I few years ago I worked in a Dr. office as CNA because CNA's can work in Dr. offices too. I notices that the MA's were called nurses, and they wanted to call me a nurse. I didn't like it, because, I knew in my heart, that I didn't deserve that title. I worked at a clinic that didn't let their MA's do anything, accept measuring vital, check blood sugar, and etc. They have LVNs to do injections, and vaccinations, treatments etc., because LVN's have licenses that they can be held accountable with. I am a proud mother of three beautyful daughter. I currently live in Los Angeles California. I've worked as a heathecare provider for almost 10 years. I am curently in school to pursue my MSN in nursing, and wants to work as a pediactric nurse, in public health. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I am a Certified and Registered Medical Assistant. I went to school 20 years ago for 18 months with a 4 month(s) clinical (out of school in the clinical setting) experience. At times, it has been difficult to find a decent paying job, but that is dependent on where you live. Since, for the most part, you work in an office setting, you have more M-F, 8-5 type hours. After working my rear off for a number of years, sometimes doing more than a RN or LPN and making quite a bit less money, I decided to go to nursing school for my RN. After 1 1/2 years into the program, finishing all the pre-req's and going through the acceptance program (must meet high GPA's, etc), I had to quite nursing school due to a divorce. I am a single mother of 3 and working "normal" hours is crucial. I am back working as a CMA and love my job, am getting paid pretty well and work great hours. I did learn a lot in nursing school that has carried over into my Medical Assisting, but most is learned in the clinic setting from experience! I've worked w/ LPN's and RN's, sometimes my knowledge and experience has outweighed certainly newly graduated RN's and in some ways, not so newly graduated RN's, but certainly equivalent to if not better than most LPN's. In the scope of practice, MA's work directly under a physician/provider's direction. We take vital signs, pt hx, assist with procedures, sterile set-up, immunizations, injections, (can start IV, but not the push), refill meds (with approval from provider), same goes for verbal orders for testing, labs, nursing homes/care, suture removal, staple removal, casting, splinting, x-rays (with training), phlebotomy and labwork, etc...as well as front office duties, insurance, phones, appt setting etc...RN's are being almost totally faced out of the office/clinic setting. It is rare to find an office looking for an LPN to hire, but it does occur. If you become an RN, expect to work in a hospital setting and start off with varied shifts etc. The primary reason for me not cont w/ the RN program now...the hours. I will cont w/ schooling so as to not "waste" all the nursing/medical classes that I've taken, however, will choose another field in medicine. Good-luck....if you are single and child-free...go the RN route...if not, carefully consider your options and children! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I just completed a 1year course to become an LPN, and one of the girls in my class was an MA. She went to school for almost 2 years and spent $25,000 on her MA and could not get a job. So, she then turned around and spent another year to get her LPN so she can get a job. She could have her BSN by now, so don't let the school fool you because I spent about $5,000 and 1 year for my LPN, and I can work in an office, hospital, nursing home, or wherever I like. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I have been a Nationally Registered Certified Medical Assistant for three years. My schooling took one year. I get terrible pay and have yet to find a stable full time job. I do have a job where I work two days a week but I do not make any money. I love the people I work with, and I love working with my patients, as I have become attached to them. Yes, MAs give similar care to patients as LPNs do, but MAs get the training around the edges that "gets you through" and makes you function similar to an LPN. LPNs get a little more detailed in their schooling, as well as, RNs go even farther. As such, the reason for the wage increases. However, after three years of being an MA, I am doing what I should have done at the beginning, and I am starting LPN school in February. I have prerequisites done for college at Penn State that I can use for an RN program but PSU has a very difficult RN program to get into. Already being an LPN can be of some help entering PSU though, and you may be able to test out of some of the courses, depending on your experience. My hopes are that I find a good employer after finishing school that will allow me to continue my RN education, many hospitals in my area are really doing this due to the need for RNs, and in turn, I would work for the employer for a set number of years. I hope this helps someone out. Please don't waste your time as an MA, it isn't worth it in the long run. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago A medical assistant's responsibilities are all relative to the forum in which you work. The difference between the LPN and MA leave much to be debated, however, the MA's are more readily employed within a clinic setting unless he/she has other certifications. MA's with phlebotomy, Xray, and Surg Tech licenses are more apt to get gainful employ ment with a hospital. Overall in my opinion an MA gets to do all the leg work and has only a third of the papertrail of a LPN or RN. For all those starting as MA's as a tool to open doors into the nursing field: it is a great oppurtunity to learn a lot of what is required of you as a RN in terms of pt care, what type of setting or specialty you prefer, and to gain experience before taking the big leap into nursing school--GOOD FOR YOU!!! If you don't cut as an MA you are more likely to fail as a nurse or just be a desk jockey. Follow your heart and know that any nurse you ask will tell you it is a lot of work, but one of the most rewarding positions in the medical field. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago First off, I would like to say to all of the LPNs who have responded, that you need to get off your high horse! CMA's have to keep up on their CEU just the same as you. CMAs do the exact same work as you in the clinical setting, and will lose their ability to practice if they screw up - just like you. MAny people, such as myself, chose to become a CMA because it fit perfectly with what I chose as my career. I did not want to be a paper pushing Rn, or a butt wiping med passer. I work with a wonderful Dr. and love my job. I am the only CMA in the office and I have never been talked down to by any of the REAL nurses, I mean LPNs.
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| Posted over 5 years ago I have been going to school for certified Medical Assistant since Oct. 28, 2007. It is a 10 month course. But now my dreams are to finish my MA schooling get a job and in Sept. go to LPN school. Yes, I wish I just went into LPN right away, but at least I will start my LPN schooling this Sept. while working. I just hope I get a good Dr to work for like you "sage4102".
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| Posted over 5 years ago shanestreasure said: I agree with you I have been an LPN for almost a year now, I do not have a problem with getting a job, LPN's are versatile, we are more in demand now due to the nursing shortage, I plan to continue my RN in the near future. I work in a clinic setting as a Lead LPN over the medical assistants, and the MA's are very jealous and make comments about LPN's. I am proud that I have become an LPN before I choose to move on to my RN, it is a great way to learn a good solid foundation in basic nursing skills and to see if the nursing profession is for you. I would say if anyone is thinking about or even slightly thinking about nursing, become a LPN first or just go straight to RN school, you can't go wrong. The credits transfer from LPN to RN. To the Medical assistants you can work in a Doctors office or in a insurance office as medical biller/coder if thats what you choose, just stop comparing yourselves LPN still has nurse attached to the name and it is recognized by all National nursing associations. |
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| Posted over 5 years ago Jolynn1978 said: Hi i am a rma and i work in a internal medicine office and yes i am consider the nurse. I have worked in some offices where i have trained rns and lpns I am also working on my prereqs for nursing i am glad that i had the experience to work as a medical assistant as i will be well prepared for my nursing clinicals. good luck in your decision and do whats right for you |
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| Posted over 5 years ago sage4102 said: sage, relax...I just went through (after reading your comment) and thouroughly read everyone else's post. I don't think that there are any LPN's who've responded to Jolynn's question with any air of superiority. There are plain and simple facts, and differences between MA's, LPN's, and RN's. The biggest difference as pointed out by one nurse, is that LPN's and RN's are held accountable by their licensure. Even if an MA has the same "hands on", in office training as an LPN, it does not make one a "nurse" (nor should they ever be referred to as one). I would never however, demean the title of MA. I myself started as a CNA, (which is essentially the same thing), and when I received my LPN, was truly grateful for having such wonderful people (CNA's/MA's) to work with. I think that most nurses would agree, that in any setting where there are significant distinguishable job duties, you guys are our eyes and ears. Without you are jobs would be a whole lot more stressful than it already is! Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, worn out and screaming "Woo-hoo"!!! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I like what you pointed out DaMomb...as I am going thru the M A program, I too wish I went for LPN. But, after MA Im going to LPN. And I wouldn't get jealous at RN's or LPN's, and that is a shame what goes on in the workplace. I just want to say I am new here and very happy I have found this forum, everyone is great , and also great opinions |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I agree with alot of the comments in the posted ad's. i am a cna and a ma. I am going back for my lpn in the fall. I know i took the long route but i am a single mom and had to work first. my children are older now but still need to work to hold things down for my family.alot of the message are up lifting to me thank you and God Bless you all. no matter would field you choose it is about serving God's people and helping them heal! |
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| Posted over 5 years ago I am a RMA and work in a wonderful doctors office I started out as a CNA/PCT and meet some doctors whom viewed how I was taking care of their patients. I went back to school and started working for 1 of the doctors and that was 5 years ago I do everything an LPN/LVN or RN does and he does not tolerate any belittling of any kind in any of his offices on occassion I am asked to go and work at other clinics and they are run the same now grant it when I first started working for him I did have a run in with an RN but she was quickly checked and put in her place to this day Im surprised she still stays with us because he doesnt tolerate a lot of delegating in the office. One thing I will admit do your home work because most MA programs are only 6 months long and you get the same training as some AS programs and when you start regardless of diploma or degree you start at the same pay. One other thing MA's dont just work in clinics they do work in hospitals and nursing homes depending on the need good luck in your endeavors. |
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| Posted over 1 year ago wow i wish i had read these posts before hand i have 2 more terms left and i have been looking for a job but im having no luck where i go they say there looking for lpn and rn so im looking into seeing what i have to do to get my lpn instead of ma i so wish i new of this site but oh well. eeryone have a great day. |
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| Posted over 1 year ago marycatanon,Best of luck to you.. Keep searching and don't get discuraged..There is something out there with your name on it.. Please keep us posted..Teresa |



